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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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The 2019 Free Agency Tracker -Added: Landon Collins, Rodgers-Cromartie, Donald Penn, Flowers, Smallwood. Lost:Preston Smith, Nsekhe, Crowder, HaHa

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4 minutes ago, Bang said:

Not to pick, but didn't this thread usually have the tracker updated on the opening post?

 

trying to find the Clinton Dix news

 

~Bang

The brass is making a hard push for him but nothing new.  That was at the start of FA.

 

 

Dang, was hoping we'd take a crack at Sitton.  

 

 

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3 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

I'm just curious and I don't mean to be an ass... But what's in it for you fans who dive deep into what money the players are making and what have you... Is there a GM tryout for the Redskins?.. again I don't mean to be disrespectful or rude..

 

it helps give an idea what is even possible for the team

 

 

On the Maurice harris front, maybe the coach was concerned about the concussion.  It took him forever to shake it

 

Not that I expect him or Kelley to be getting big contracts, but do untendered RFA fall into the comp pick pool?

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I am meh on the AP signing... 2 years/raise for a 33 year old back....   I would rather see what Guice Marshall Bibbs and Perine can do.  Follow the obvious trend of the rest of the league and roll with kids. Instead, we'll risk our young backs to the PS.

 

IIRC he was upset that he lost the starting job to Ingram and Kamara. I hope he is OK with a backup role.

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3 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

I am meh on the AP signing... 2 years/raise for a 33 year old back....   I would rather see what Guice Marshall Bibbs and Perine can do.  Follow the obvious trend of the rest of the league and roll with kids. Instead, we'll risk our young backs to the PS.

 

IIRC he was upset that he lost the starting job to Ingram and Kamara. I hope he is OK with a backup role.

BIBBS doesn't play for us. Guice is recovering from knee surgery and Marhsall, we saw what he was capable of.

Perine has a fumbling problem but he should get a second chance. AP was our offense last year. So why not at 2.5 million.

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2 hours ago, justice98 said:

Look, I dont wanna make too big a deal of a 4th WR type, but Mo Harris should be on the team.  Good for him if there is some demand around the league.  Of the guys currently under contract, he's no worse than the 3rd best WR.  Maybe even 2nd.

 

The Redskins need play makers... explosive play makers.  Think slants that go to the house!  Think breaking tackles and shaking defenders.  They don't need receivers who can't separate, are slow footed, and only move the chains.   Harris is a nice story but let's be realistic here.  He's a possession receiver and virtually every NFL team has a couple on their practice squad.  

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2 minutes ago, rumplestilskin said:

BIBBS doesn't play for us. Guice is recovering from knee surgery and Marhsall, we saw what he was capable of.

 

Exactly, I don't want to lose our next Bibbs. All signs point to Guice being ready.  Marshall, Jay loves Marshall and that's why he is coming back. 

 

Plus, I cannot be the only one none too thrilled about the story that came out last November.

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6 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

I am meh on the AP signing... 2 years/raise for a 33 year old back....   I would rather see what Guice Marshall Bibbs and Perine can do.  Follow the obvious trend of the rest of the league and roll with kids. Instead, we'll risk our young backs to the PS.

 

IIRC he was upset that he lost the starting job to Ingram and Kamara. I hope he is OK with a backup role.

 

You can’t have watched last year and learned how Peterson is wired and not see value. It’s a one year deal with an option, from initial reports.

 

This without mentioning the young stud is coming off of ACL surgery, so increasing value for Peterson, especially early on. 

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5 minutes ago, Sknsnation said:
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Via IG, Quinton Dunbar telling Ha Ha Clinton Dix to come back to the Redskins. HHCD says “it’s OV!” Draw your own conclusions.

Im not keen to this lingo

Ocean View maybe in VA

Maybe he's going for an Office Visit

Or maybe its over

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2 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

 

Exactly, I don't want to lose our next Bibbs. All signs point to Guice being ready.  Marshall, Jay loves Marshall and that's why he is coming back. 

 

Plus, I cannot be the only one none too thrilled about the story that came out last November.

Are you talking about his spanking his son. I am not going there. 

6 minutes ago, Sknsnation said:
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Via IG, Quinton Dunbar telling Ha Ha Clinton Dix to come back to the Redskins. HHCD says “it’s OV!” Draw your own conclusions.

Well get Tre Boston on the phone

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3 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

You can’t have watched last year and learned how Peterson is wired and not see value. It’s a one year deal with an option, from initial reports.

 

This without mentioning the young stud is coming off of ACL surgery, so increasing value for Peterson, especially early on. 

 

He is a physical freak.  The fact that we need someone to teach players how to work out, is more concerning than what our team would be like without him.

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2 hours ago, moondog said:

So we let one of the only guys in our wr corps go that had sticky hands, produced, and knew every position in a group that was injury prone? Oh and he was dirt cheap while we are in cap hell? Makes sense. 

 

You know Harris was injured last season as well, right? 

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Just now, RandyHolt said:

 

He is a physical freak.  The fact that we need someone to teach players how to work out, is more concerning than what our team would be like without him.

 

Not necessarily working out, but an overall mental approach to each day— viewing each as an opportunity to be your best. An All time great wired with a mentality he’s not accomplished a thing— Sign me up for establishing a hard working culture and leading the youngsters as the uncle of the squad. 

 

Alex Smith is wired the same way :( Team really would be on to something if he was healthy. With QB situation it’s hard to imagine anything special yet (Kyler Murray would solve this). 

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1 hour ago, clskinsfan said:

I am actually OK with keeping Foster next to RF. RF is your speed guy and Foster is your thumper. Foster does a decent job around the LOS.

 

 

It's gonna be hell keeping up with which Foster people are talking about lol...

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2 hours ago, justice98 said:

Look, I dont wanna make too big a deal of a 4th WR type, but Mo Harris should be on the team.  Good for him if there is some demand around the league.  Of the guys currently under contract, he's no worse than the 3rd best WR.  Maybe even 2nd.

Really he doesn't get open.  Watch his snaps.  He has good hands and fights for 50/50 balls, but he's covered all the time.  I think you want a WR that gets open. 

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1 hour ago, CurseReversed said:

holy crap do we really have the worst odds in the league?  Thats pretty sad. 

 

Yeah I haven't checked lately but I recall weeks back the Redskins were considered the 2nd worst team in the NFL by most Vegas odds makers -- Dolphins usually last.  I guess on that one we leapfrogged them to the bottom.

 

Personally right now it feels more like a 6-10 roster as opposed to 2-14 as that odds maker is essentially predicting.    Keep in mind statistically speaking we have the easiest schedule in the NFL next season. 

 

I do like the Collins signing.   I am ok with the Keenum signing, too.  But on the aggregate they still have plenty of holes.  O line -- LG, depth.  Edge rush.   Weapons in the passing game. QB.   But FA isn't over with.  And the draft is still to come.

 

As I said before about FA, the off season is no lose for me.  If by chance they upgrade the roster and surprisingly become a playoff team -- that's great.  If they don't and its the same old same old or worse -- I think we got a good shot at a needed reboot in 2020.  If its a choice between take 2-14 and 7-9 -- I'd choose 2-14 any day especially when you got a loaded draft at QB coming up.  See the Cleveland Browns.    

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On 3/12/2019 at 4:50 PM, PartyPosse said:

Ha Ha meeting with Bears.

 

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Peterson’s deal is an economical one for the Redskins who will give him a $1.5 million signing bonus and a $1.3 million salary in 2019. His 2020 salary will be $2.25 million. He also gets $1.5 million in incentives each year he rushes for 1,000 yards or scores 10 touchdowns.

so...

2.8mil in 2019 + 1.5mil in incentives

2.25mil in 2020 + 1.5mil in incentives

1.5 in incentives will be hard to reach if Guice is healthy... i'd say thats a pretty good deal for the Skins.

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6 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

Not necessarily working out, but an overall mental approach to each day— viewing each as an opportunity to be your best. An All time great wired with a mentality he’s not accomplished a thing— Sign me up for establishing a hard working culture and leading the youngsters as the uncle of the squad. 

 

Alex Smith is wired the same way :( Team really would be on to something if he was healthy. With QB situation it’s hard to imagine anything special yet (Kyler Murray would solve this). 

 

On the video I posted weeks ago in the Kirk Cousins thread, the two guys doing the podcast or whatever mentioned intangibles like leadership, work ethic, approach to the game, etc...one of them said something like "You are absolutely nuts if you don't think things like leadership and toughness don't matter (as much as stats)", and the other guy said one of the advantages they have over most fans is that in their position, they get to constantly be in the locker room and see the effects of leadership and interaction between players, and how it translates to the field and games. In other words, fans understand intellectually and theoretically that these types of intangibles matter, but can't possibly know just how much they can affect a team's performance because they don't see the things that go on behind the scenes on a daily basis. From everything I've heard and read about both Alex Smith and Adrian Peterson, they have it in spades.

 

Fans think a guy like DJ Swearinger is a "leader" because he's "holding his teammates accountable"...in the press lol. Guys like these two podcasters/radio hosts would see how the actions of a player like DJ are truly affecting the locker room and his teammates. They would hear about all the ways players gravitate to someone like Alex Smith and what effect it has...and how the young RBs prepared differently with AP in the fold than when it was just Fat Rob and Perine doing it themselves while Chris Thompson continued his almost annual rehab. 

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4 minutes ago, tchrpe1 said:

 

Yep, I would post the tweet but this site gives me issues trying to do so.  He's meeting with them 2night and 2morrow.  Skins are going to have to up their ante to get him.  Man, this ticks me off!  I wanted a Bama reunion between the two Coliins and Ha Ha.  Get Boston now I guess.,

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