@DCGoldPants Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Like Keim alluded to. They are giving him a redemption chance at Guard. The market is pretty weak there this offseason. Fine with the move for the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Califan007 said: I'm the opposite...I feel like it's gonna be a perfect storm of "obvious dumpster fire" moments that, when taken as a whole, somehow propel the team to 10 wins and division champions lol... Reverse psychology... This is how I went into last year.. and when we won the way we did in Arizona I was pretty excited.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: I usually have no issue taking chances on former top 10 picks...but this man has zero redeeming qualities god bless Case when Trent/Morgan miss their designated 4-5 plays a game due to injury I think you are overreacting. When does our O line depth ever even come into play? Looks like to add to the Alabama angle -- we got an ex-NY Giant one cooking. Every acquisition thus far having a NY Giant angle -- maybe we shouldn't sleep on Ei being a possibility next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: ....this man is going to actually be on the field a decent amount lol Please don’t tell me this is the LG solution. No way no ****ing way lol 4 mil is definitely more than we should've paid him. Hopefully incentive laced. But I don't think they want to be done at LG, I would assume they will pull the trigger at guard if a decent one is there in the 2nd or 3rd, but this is probably their safety net if they don't walk away from the draft with a guy who is plug and play. And with the injury bug and just overall lack of talent we've had at LG the past few years, I'd rather take a look at a young, durable guy with first round traits. I know he has been awful, but maybe Callahan turns him into a serviceable guard. We all know lauvao/Cooper/Bergstrom/Arie/Howard/Bowanko ain't working out too well. And the remaining free agents are too injury prone and/or too old to rely on. But man oh man I hope we come out of day 2 in the draft with a well respected prospect at LG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I'm okay with the Flowers signing. I was banging the table for a new, cheap, and hopefully healthy guard. If there's one thing Flowers has covered, it's that he's been healthy. Go get us another guard, and I'll be downright not-dissatisfied with our line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, goskins10 said: I see people reacting to $4M for Flowers. It reminds me of when people got all pissed about Scandrick and his initial contract - 2yrs $7M. Then it turned out all of $1M was gauranteed. Need to see th full contract deals. These reports are always full potential deals not the important details of guaranteed money. ...What we do know is Bruce Allen is a ****ing moron. He is not trusted by agents, players, or owners - well except one unfortunately. He has destroyed every NFL team has has been to. Totally inept. Agree with this. But I see some humor in this as well because if Trent misses his usual time, I think the odds are we will might see some Flowers at LT. So its not so much a slam at Flowers but the realization that he might get some action at that spot and its not been pretty for him. But agree beggars can't be choosers. If they draft a LG and Flowers is just depth. Then this signing is more than fine IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: Is Flowers going to count against one of the Compensatory Pick's we might be getting? Trying to find out if he was straight up cut by the Jags, or if he was a UFA. HE was traded from NY to JAX, then not signed by JAX. Just like what we did with Clinton-Dix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 He has to make the team so I'm not too worked up about this Flowers signing....Maybe guard will work for him and if it doesn't we send him home? Let's see what our coaches can do with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 just keep him away from tackle, even as a backup IMO. Hopefully guard is his future. You need quick feet to play tackle. So maybe guard is his best spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: just keep him away from tackle, even as a backup IMO. Hopefully guard is his future. You need quick feet to play tackle. So maybe guard is his best spot. I saw that first tweet a few minutes ago... Why was he even playing Tackle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, CrypticVillain said: I saw that first tweet a few minutes ago... Why was he even playing Tackle? I believe he played tackle for Jax. Looking at his PFF grades, according to them he was OK for Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I can see guard maybe being a better spot for him and or maybe there is something to PFF's grade of him in Jax. Though I can appreciate the humor on it, too. 😀 But I'll give it a ride and see how it goes. And again hopefully they draft a LG. And if they do its a harmless acquisition aside from losing the 6th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarpon75 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: I can’t see the team with the worst QB situation in the division (and probably worst offense overall) competing for anything. But it’s still early. Maybe they luck out and have a once in a lifetime draft I don’t know if the Giants really are in a much better situation than the Redskins as far as QB goes. That being said,unless there are some good moves from here on out it will be hard to compete with Dallas or Philadelphia . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carex Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I went back and checked his draft profile. NFL.com called for him to be moved to guard and the same guy also called for it for Scherff and La'el Collins who started out at LG. So hopefully it will be good for him. I would like for the Skins to bring in more potential help at LG, but for the space we had and what was available this isn't a bad thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: So what I'm reading is that he hasn't allowed any sacks or pressures at guard. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Not sure how much meaning this has. He was projected to move to G out of college but NY insisted on him being played at T. Not saying he will be good at G, but just because he has not played a snap there yet really doesn't mean he can't. They desperately needed him to be T - but he was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchrpe1 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Tre Boston still possibly at FS?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poindexter Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I think if we sign Jonathan Cooper 12 minutes ago, NewCliche21 said: So what I'm reading is that he hasn't allowed any sacks or pressures at guard. I like it. lol....I like your attitude. I think this is a sold signing and i'm positive Bruce and Schaeffer have worked out a team friendly contract as well. This kid might even turn out to be a pro bowler or at least be a serviceable backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 We'll be shopping from the $1 bin for the rest of the offseason, its a 1 yr deal so it's not the end of the world, there are no true impact players left in free agency so we probably wouldn't have used the cap space anyway. With all these holes on offense, we have set ourselves up perfectly to make a run at one of next years elite QB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerm Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 53 minutes ago, kingdaddy said: He has to make the team so I'm not too worked up about this Flowers signing....Maybe guard will work for him and if it doesn't we send him home? Let's see what our coaches can do with him. It will be interesting to see if there is any guaranted money. If there anything more than 50k guaranted, then this seems like an overpayment. Most people thought he would get a vet minimum offer with no guarantee, for a chance to land on a roster. 4 mill seems very steep, you almost have to cut him if he doesn't win the starting spot (or if the competition is even close). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 The thing about offensive linemen is that their play is really dependent on teamwork. So, the question then becomes is Flowers as terrible as he seems or was supporting cast just that bad. The other thing, as if others have wondered about, is whether a move to guard resuscitates his career. We have seen bums suddenly become good players by moving them inside. It's probably too much to hope for, but hope is all we got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26152205/barnwell-2019-nfl-free-agency-trade-grades-tracking-every-big-signing-move Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempre_victrix Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I think that we should address OL in the draft, as quickly as possible. This does not sound like a good signing, unless he suddenly realizes that he's been wearing his shoes on the wrong feet since he was drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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