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11 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

The Smith contract terms were 4 years/$94M. $55M was fully guaranteed.

 

Another $16M was to become fully guaranteed on the 5th day of the 2019 season. However, I think that additional $16M also would become fully guaranteed in the case of injury--meaning, if the Skins can't cut him due to injury in order to not pay him his 2020 salary. They wold still owe it.

So are you saying now that he's injured and very well might not come back he's owed the entire $55 million?  I read somewhere that the Skins had a $12 million dollar injury policy on him or something to that effect.

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1 hour ago, RWJ said:

So are you saying now that he's injured and very well might not come back he's owed the entire $55 million?  I read somewhere that the Skins had a $12 million dollar injury policy on him or something to that effect.

 

I dunno how the insurance policy stuff works...but apparently Smiff was paid $27M of the guaranteed $55M already, so with the remaining $16M now due to him (provided he doesn't retire before like March 9th), the total still owed him is around $44M, possibly a little less. If the insurance thing means that amount is deducted (cap-wise) from what he is owed, I  guess it would reduce the amount to around $32M.

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Grant Paulsen tweeted that our strength&conditioning coach chad englehart is one of the guys we’re not allowing to talk with any interested teams...he’s been in charge of the s&c program since 2017...we have led the league in guys being on IR since, haven’t we? Why the **** does this stupid **** team not want to get better??? There are problems, FIX THEM. Ugghhhhhhhhhh 

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19 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Grant Paulsen tweeted that our strength&conditioning coach chad englehart is one of the guys we’re not allowing to talk with any interested teams...he’s been in charge of the s&c program since 2017...we have led the league in guys being on IR since, haven’t we? Why the **** does this stupid **** team not want to get better??? There are problems, FIX THEM. Ugghhhhhhhhhh 

I have no idea how much if any fault lays at the feet of the S&C coach for all the injuries, but it does seem wierd that this guy is off limits.  A quick look shows me he was head of S&C when Jay was with the Tuskers in 2009.

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1 hour ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Grant Paulsen tweeted that our strength&conditioning coach chad englehart is one of the guys we’re not allowing to talk with any interested teams...he’s been in charge of the s&c program since 2017...we have led the league in guys being on IR since, haven’t we? Why the **** does this stupid **** team not want to get better??? There are problems, FIX THEM. Ugghhhhhhhhhh 

 

You're overlooking one important thing: someone wants to hire our strength and conditioning coach, even after all the players on IR.

 

That could mean the belief that the injuries are due to poor "strength and conditioning" isn't quite accurate. Imagine if the team that wanted the Skins' S&C coach were the Steelers or the Patriots...

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10 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

You're overlooking one important thing: someone wants to hire our strength and conditioning coach, even after all the players on IR.

 

That could mean the belief that the injuries are due to poor "strength and conditioning" isn't quite accurate. Imagine if the team that wanted the Skins' S&C coach were the Steelers or the Patriots...

 

What if it's the Cardinals or Jaguars

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9 hours ago, Califan007 said:

It wasn't fully guaranteed.

 

I stand corrected. It was a bad contract IMO, but no, not fully guaranteed.

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8 hours ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Grant Paulsen tweeted that our strength&conditioning coach chad englehart is one of the guys we’re not allowing to talk with any interested teams...he’s been in charge of the s&c program since 2017...we have led the league in guys being on IR since, haven’t we? Why the **** does this stupid **** team not want to get better??? There are problems, FIX THEM. Ugghhhhhhhhhh 

 

Out of mild curiosity...

 

Why do you think the S&C staff are responsible for the injuries?

 

What do you think the S&C staffs role is?

 

Do you believe there are any other parties responsible for the injuries?

 

This isn't just directed at you... I'm kind of curious for anyone who is all in on this "it's the S&C staff's fault for the injuries" to answer these so I can try to understand your vantage point.

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11 minutes ago, KDawg said:

 

Out of mild curiosity...

 

Why do you think the S&C staff are responsible for the injuries?

 

What do you think the S&C staffs role is?

 

Do you believe there are any other parties responsible for the injuries?

 

This isn't just directed at you... I'm kind of curious for anyone who is all in on this "it's the S&C staff's fault for the injuries" to answer these so I can try to understand your vantage point.

 

There does seem to be a lot of mixed opinions on this.

 

Some have pointed to the apparent soft practise sessions and general easy-going attitute (Gruden's fault).

Others have called out the poor facilities that the players have access to (Snyder's fault).

More recently there has been talk about over-agressive practise sessions being a factor in O-Line injuries (Callahan's fault).

And now S&C are taking some heat (Englehart's fault?)

 

Maybe some, or all of these have contributed to our injury woes to a varying degree. Maybe something else has caused them or maybe (most likely IMO) it's the random nature of injuries due to a violent game played by big, strong and fast individuals.

 

If players were getting injured in the gym more than usual, then the S&C methods probably should be reviewed, but I doubt if any blame could be attributed to them directly.

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3 minutes ago, London Kev said:

 

 

Maybe some, or all of these have contributed to our injury woes to a varying degree. Maybe something else has caused them or maybe (most likely IMO) it's the random nature of injuries due to a violent game played by big, strong and fast individuals.

 

If players were getting injured in the gym more than usual, then the S&C methods probably should be reviewed, but I doubt if any blame could be attributed to them directly.

 

I'm of the opinion that everything plays a role.

 

However, to be a touch more specific:

 

Our front office likes to rely on players with an injury history to fill the roster. They come a touch cheaper. Therefore they can maximize talent and minimize cost on players. This, in my opinion, is the biggest reason we are so injury prone: We fill the roster with injury prone players.

 

Soft practices by Gruden/the CBA are also a contributor to injuries on the Redskins/around the league respectively.

 

Callahan allegedly pushing the linemen much harder, if true, is also a contributor (which really blurs the line on Gruden's soft camp causing injuries vs. Callahan's tough nature on the linemen causing injuries, doesn't it?)

 

Some may even be the S&C staff... or it may not. They can't control a player's effort. But maybe they aren't focusing on the right things with the program... We really have no way of knowing that. But broken legs aren't on the S&C staff. Concussions aren't, either. Guice's ACL probably shouldn't be either. Trey Quinn's injuries likely aren't. The list goes on.

 

But the S&C staff is lower on my list of culprits... but in totality it's the organization as a whole that is at fault for the rash of injuries.

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