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Da ****? What happened to the meeting with the redskins?? Ugh. Soooo manusky it is? 

 

Should be interesting to watch Gruden get his butt handed to him by gregg next season 😂😂

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Williams got more money from the Jets and used the Skins.   Joe Woods is a name to keep an eye on.  Been saying this for a couple days now.  He's from the TB good ole boy network Allen/Gruden days.

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2 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Williams got more money from the Jets and used the Skins.   Joe Woods is a name to keep an eye on.  Been saying this for a couple days now.  He's from the TB good ole boy network Allen/Gruden days.

Barf. NO MORE good ole boy network **** that 😭😭 it hasn’t worked for us at all. They all SUCK

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I’ve been reading this the last few days and I’m surprised some got their hopes up. Honestly need new blood and a disaster of a season. Also Gregg Williams lied about the bounty gate and wanted players with concussions targeted. That’s a low life thing to do. Jay also is too much of a spineless jelly fish to want that type of character in the room. 

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So to sum it up for anyone who has been out the last couple days.

 

1) GW's negotiations with Jets hit a "snag".

2) GW has a quick cup of coffee with Dan and Bruce.

3)  BOOM. Jet's remove the snag in negotiations.

 

 

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And still no strength & conditioning staff changes. What the **** does the FO even DO?? And no offensive coordinator changes even though Gruden is a failure. They don’t want to get better. It’s clear to me. 

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Yeah I thought multiple reasons would play into this -- but my thought was the kicker likely would be Dan wouldn't outbid the Jets coupled with Dan-Bruce saddling Gregg with the in house staff versus letting him build his own.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I hope Dan gets a clue that no good or decent coaches will put up with his BS. He is so ostracized now it is embarrassing. I can't imagine someone with his "ego" accepting he is a laughing stock and poster boy for "Stupid"

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Nobody from the Jets or the Williams camp denied that the Redskins were interested or the deal was complete. 

In the end, it's entirely possible Williams or his representatives leveraged the Redskins interest into greater compensation or operational control from New York. That's the way business gets done. 

Now, it looks more and more like the Redskins will keep Greg Manusky on as defensive coordinator despite meeting with Bowles and Wilks and trying to meet with Williams. Awkward. 

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/it-looks-gregg-williams-will-coach-jets-after-all

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12 minutes ago, The Hangman- C_Hanburger said:

I hope Dan gets a clue that no good or decent coaches will put up with his BS. He is so ostracized now it is embarrassing. I can't imagine someone with his "ego" accepting he is a laughing stock and poster boy for "Stupid"

 

No way to know for sure.  But this roller coaster for defensive staff over recent years seem to start with Haz where some who cover the team suggested the Dan-Bruce preferred to keep him and staff when Shanny was fired and Jay arrived in order in part to save some dough.  

 

Like I said last night when I posted the old WP story about ironically the Gibbs-Gregg era where they had a high end expensive staff and operated to keep that going. 

 

Looks like he's done a 180 and now has become a cheap about staff.    I recall Laconfora saying when the Redskins were putting out feelers for personnel guys when Scot was fired that the Redskins have the reputation of being cheap and the best guys can get paid much better elsewhere without the dysfunction and thus didn't want to come here.

 

One of the cool bonuses of the Bruce era 😀 is the dysfunction is as loud and proud as it was during the Vinny era but to add to that they don't pay as well as many other teams do to attract people to Redskins Park.     So its dealing with dysfunction on a discount.  

 

Maybe Dan departed from that here but until I hear otherwise I'd bet that Dan wasn't willing to outbid the Jets, if anything he was paying less and to boot the Jets likely gave him more freedom to pick his staff.  I recall Gregg when he was here made a big deal about his staff and how essential it is to have top assistants.

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Yay, mismanagement and front office incompetence prevents us from upgrading our staff, yet again!

 

Calling this slag team a dumpster fire is an insult to dumpster fires.

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The thing is that other than his personality, we don't know that Williams would be that much of an improvement over Manusky. Its still like reordering chairs on the Titanic. Manusky has a good resume and if you look at this year, I'm sure that if he was released from his contract he'd get offers. Probably the same with Gray. That's probably why the Skins are doing things as they are. Its not like we have a complete dud as a coach. The question is can we do better. 

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29 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

So to sum it up for anyone who has been out the last couple days.

 

1) GW's negotiations with Jets hit a "snag".

2) GW has a quick cup of coffee with Dan and Bruce.

3)  BOOM. Jet's remove the snag in negotiations.

 

 

Been out a few days.... Thanks brother!

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8 minutes ago, Thinking Skins said:

The thing is that other than his personality, we don't know that Williams would be that much of an improvement over Manusky. Its still like reordering chairs on the Titanic. Manusky has a good resume and if you look at this year, I'm sure that if he was released from his contract he'd get offers. Probably the same with Gray. That's probably why the Skins are doing things as they are. Its not like we have a complete dud as a coach. The question is can we do better. 

 

I was ok with the hire of Manusky but I wouldn't say his resume is "good" at least no statistically speaking.  In 11 years he never had a top 10 defense (zero) in yards and just twice in points.  More than half of those years the defenses were top 20 or worse.   I think his reputation is average.   

 

When you hear people talk about the better defensive coordinators in the league, Manusky is never in that conversation from what I recall.  Having said that I don't hate Manusky being here.  I like Gregg but don't see him as some sort of magician fix all either.

 

To me the operative point is can they attract top names to Redskins Park.  The answer seems to be no.  Now I do think old school Dan can attract the big names by offering big money but if they are going to be cheap about it -- the days of big names considering coming here I think might be dead and gone until Bruce at least leaves. 

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