TheGoodBits Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: Scherzer is going to the HoF either way and is most likely going in wearing a Nats cap whether we trade him now or not. Might as well get a haul for him now while we can. That would be interesting to see... Tigers for 5 years with 1 Cy Young. If we traded him this year he'd have been with the Nats for 4.5 years and 2 Cy Youngs (and likely 5x ASGs). Then he'd have 2.5 years (and maybe a World Series) with whoever we trade him to.. thinking LAD, NYY, etc, the big money contenders are most likely. Would be really interesting to see if he would be inducted as a National if we traded him. I don't think that's a guarantee but I do think it would be most likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Colony Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: That would be interesting to see... Tigers for 5 years with 1 Cy Young. If we traded him this year he'd have been with the Nats for 4.5 years and 2 Cy Youngs (and likely 5x ASGs). Then he'd have 2.5 years (and maybe a World Series) with whoever we trade him to.. thinking LAD, NYY, etc, the big money contenders are most likely. Would be really interesting to see if he would be inducted as a National if we traded him. I don't think that's a guarantee but I do think it would be most likely. If he goes to another team and has the same amount of success, he could always pull a Greg Maddux and have his plaque with no hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, First Colony said: If he goes to another team and has the same amount of success, he could always pull a Greg Maddux and have his plaque with no hat. I was thinking that too. I'd still go to his induction ceremony if that was the case. (did Maddux go in with no cap or are you thinking Mussina?) double edit- nope you're right, Maddux did too Edited May 9, 2019 by skinsfan_1215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 9, 2019 Author Share Posted May 9, 2019 I think you keep Max for that vet leadership. Plus, he's our Hall of Famer. We aren't the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. with a long history and all these names in the Hall. We have 1 player who even played for the Nats--Pudge, and it was the last one of his career. Putting Max into the Hall with the Curly-W is worth hanging onto him. And, I am planning a family vacation to see him inducted. My daughters will be teenagers by then (frightening thought), perfect way to torture them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. Sinister Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Those negotiations with Bud Black probably forever altered the direction of this franchise 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 I generally agree with the philosophy that managers dont matter much in baseball, but there needs to be a minimum skill qualification. For all my complaints about Dusty's strategic decisions in games that mattered, I never once doubted he had the respect of the lockerrom and the ability to lead the team. Nats have backed themselves into a corner. They need to get rid of Martinez, but doing so only reinforces the notions that no manager with options will come here without a large contract, which ownership has been yet willing to do. If they are leaning more to rebuilding, I can't see them paying one to go through lean years 1 hour ago, Riggo#44 said: I think you keep Max for that vet leadership. Plus, he's our Hall of Famer. We aren't the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. with a long history and all these names in the Hall. We have 1 player who even played for the Nats--Pudge, and it was the last one of his career. Putting Max into the Hall with the Curly-W is worth hanging onto him. And, I am planning a family vacation to see him inducted. My daughters will be teenagers by then (frightening thought), perfect way to torture them. His HOF plaque needs to capture his heterochromia. Anything less is a travesty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Riggo#44 said: I think you keep Max for that vet leadership. Plus, he's our Hall of Famer. We aren't the Yankees, Red Sox, etc. with a long history and all these names in the Hall. We have 1 player who even played for the Nats--Pudge, and it was the last one of his career. Putting Max into the Hall with the Curly-W is worth hanging onto him. And, I am planning a family vacation to see him inducted. My daughters will be teenagers by then (frightening thought), perfect way to torture them. Remind me in a decade and I will buy you a beer at Ommegang. We can reminisce about the long ago times when the Nats didn’t totally suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Hoping that they can wise up and make Girardi an offer he can't refuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfrankie Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 So... I know this may have been discussed ad nauseum in this chain, but what is Buck Showalter up to these days? This team is not in a rebuilding mode with the talent is has right now. Time to find someone to right this ship. While a manager in baseball might not "matter" as much as in other sports, namely football and basketball, I think it still makes a significant difference. Buck has a track record of success and seems to be consumed by his coaching responsibilities and establishing a winning culture where ever he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Pass on Buck. What he did in Bmore was great. But he's basically Dusty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 33 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: Pass on Buck. What he did in Bmore was great. But he's basically Dusty. Oh how I long for some Dusty right now 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 Adios MAT when Soto comes off the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 9, 2019 Share Posted May 9, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Adios MAT when Soto comes off the DL. And then he'll go somewhere else and become the 30-30 guy we always wanted him to be. It's 'The DC Way'. Edited May 9, 2019 by CRobi21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I'd rather us have a lean payroll with a brilliant manager to get the most out of our players than a bloated payroll with a hack manager who comes cheap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 42 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: And then he'll go somewhere else and become the 30-30 guy we always wanted him to be. It's 'The DC Way'. Eh... if he does then great, he was never going to get (another) shot at starting here. But I don’t think he’s got it in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, CRobi21 said: And then he'll go somewhere else and become the 30-30 guy we always wanted him to be. It's 'The DC Way'. nah bruh, MAT is dead at the plate. 30/30 ain't happening. I don't think he'll ever hit consistently enough to stay in a lineup long enough to even get to 20/20 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 5 hours ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Remind me in a decade and I will buy you a beer at Ommegang. We can reminisce about the long ago times when the Nats didn’t totally suck. If we suck for a decade, trading Scherzer won't do anything. I'd rather have him as a Nat 4 Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I'm sick of Ryan Zimmerman. Zero leadership. His quotes tell he isn't a freaking leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 tired of seeing our guys get hit **** this, fight them all 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 a series opening win walk carefully tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 18 hours ago, StillUnknown said: His HOF plaque needs to capture his heterochromia. Anything less is a travesty They tried that in Detroit with his bobblehead, and it belongs in a House of Horrors, not the Hall of Fame: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 It is the single greatest bobblehead of all times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 minute ago, StillUnknown said: It is the single greatest scariest bobblehead of all times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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