Riggo#44 Posted May 18, 2022 Author Share Posted May 18, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Yes, it’s May. He’s on pace for a career low in steals - the aspect of his game that you’re hanging your hat on. While still in the top 10 in the majors, which is my larger point on the stolen bases aspect of his overall game. 6 minutes ago, Ball Security said: But he could turn it around. Maybe he does hit 20+ HRs in the next 4.5 months after sitting on 2 for about a quarter of the season in. He's still hitting .281, which is still higher then Ruiz, he hasn't fallen off a cliff yet, if you're suggesting it's already starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: He's still hitting .281, which is still higher then Ruiz, he hasn't fallen off a cliff yet, if you're suggesting it's already starting. How about RBIs? Who leads in RBIs? That's where the real money is made. Meanwhile, Josiah Gray got himself in a bases loaded, no out jam. Works his way out of it, giving up only 1 run. I love me some Josiah Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: How about RBIs? Who leads in RBIs? That's where the real money is made. How about his ranking as a SS on defense? He's never lead a team in RBIs and ivd never touted he did, is his defensive play dropping off a cliff as well? 4 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Meanwhile, Josiah Gray got himself in a bases loaded, no out jam. Works his way out of it, giving up only 1 run. I love me some Josiah Gray. I saw it, credit where credit is due. Edited May 19, 2022 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: While still in the top 10 in the majors, which is my larger point on the stolen bases aspect of his overall game. He's still hitting .281, which is still higher then Ruiz, he hasn't fallen off a cliff yet, if you're suggesting it's already starting. I haven’t said he’s fallen off a cliff and I don’t believe anyone else has either. He has shown 4 years of decline with SBs. His 2022 numbers are down across the board in 2022. (Yes it’s only a shade less of a quarter season in). Will he put up his 2019-2021 numbers when he’s in his mid thirties (making 30M+)? I wouldn’t take that bet. Ruiz and Gray have 50% more WAR than Trea so far in 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: How about his ranking as a SS on defense? He's never lead a team in RBIs and ivd never touted he did, is his defensive play dropping off a cliff as well? He's currently a negative dWAR on fangraphs. The real question--does he make other players better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: How about his ranking as a SS on defense? He's never lead a team in RBIs and ivd never touted he did, is his defensive play dropping off a cliff as well? I saw it, credit where credit is due. I’m not the biggest advocate of defensive stats, but he has the worst dWAR of his career so far at -0.2. That is something you can’t really get much out of until you get a season’s worth of data though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I’m not the biggest advocate of defensive stats, but he has the worst dWAR of his career so far at -0.2. That is something you can’t really get much out of until you get a season’s worth of data though. More then fair. 15 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: He's currently a negative dWAR on fangraphs. The real question--does he make other players better? Yikes, are you arguing he doesn't or drags the team down? When he was here, I remember the fear pitchers had of him getting on base, it changed decisions in a way other players didn't. Did that stop in LA? I don't think baseball has a +/- like other sports, so it's hard for me to answer this question with stats (I'm listening). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Good bounce back game from Gray and very impressive ABs from Ruiz. Nats take the lead, and looking to add on. Okay I jinxed it. Escobar Ks, badly, followed by GIDP. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 (edited) These GD double plays.... Elsewhere, Max just waved to the dugout and took himself out of the game in NY with an apparent injury. Edited May 19, 2022 by CRobi21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 What the hell is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 Oh what a night for Kiebert... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Last night you had both Gray and Ruiz shown why you traded for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: Last night you had both Gray and Ruiz shown why you traded for them. If they both hit their ceilings, people will forget all about Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: If they both hit their ceilings, people will forget all about Turner. I'm ok with wondering what if? with Turner. If they hit their ceilings, the legend of Rizzo only grows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Love me some Max. But I don't think this is a surprise here. Guy throws with everything he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: Love me some Max. But I don't think this is a surprise here. Guy throws with everything he has. $43M for, at most, 24 starts. He was looking real good this season too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 29 minutes ago, Ball Security said: $43M for, at most, 24 starts. He was looking real good this season too. He was. I know it's only May and even last year he looked worn down at times later in the season. But this is a chunk of the summer at best with no issues healing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, @DCGoldPants said: Love me some Max. But I don't think this is a surprise here. Guy throws with everything he has. His durability over the course of his career has been perhaps his top attribute. A serious injury at some point was probably inevitable and I’d been waiting for it the last few years. But still, it’s least a little jarring to see it happen to him after this long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted May 19, 2022 Author Share Posted May 19, 2022 They broke our Scherzer 4 hours ago, @DCGoldPants said: I'm ok with wondering what if? with Turner. If they hit their ceilings, the legend of Rizzo only grows Ruiz profile right now is excellent contact, line drive hitter with moderate power...who does that sound like when they came up? Anthony Rendon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mammajamma Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Boras hinting at a deal coming or just smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheDoyler23 Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 (edited) It’s crazy that Soto is in his 4th MLB season and he’s YOUNGER than MLB’s top prospect. Dude has a career WAR near 20. Crazy. Edited May 20, 2022 by TheDoyler23 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Lol. Thrown out at the plate again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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