Warhead36 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: If/when we're double-digits out by the deadline, sell everyone. Doolittle, Rendon, Dozier, Eaton, MAT... How about...Scherzer? Sounds crazy I know but he still has a few years under contract so he could fetch a ton of value. If we're committed to starting over then lets really commit to starting over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 30 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: How about...Scherzer? Sounds crazy I know but he still has a few years under contract so he could fetch a ton of value. If we're committed to starting over then lets really commit to starting over. I'm not a fan of teams doing things halfway (like when we traded away 4 players last year and not Bryce). If you are trading our core that will help us compete in the next two years, you have to consider whether it makes sense to include Scherzer and Strasburg in that as well (Stras might be tough because he's got opt-outs fwiw). But you could go nuts and trade away our entire rotation except Corbin if you wanted to. Gomes, Suzuki, Eaton, Dozier, and Rendon from the position group. Go nuts on the blow up, then extend Trea, Soto, Robles, and Kieboom to keep them under contract for another 7-8 years to give yourself time to open up a new window. Try to land a few top 50 rotation prospects and a handful of other quality young players. Then consistently supplement with new free agents over the course of a few years with a goal of being back to contender status by 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 21 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: I'm not a fan of teams doing things halfway (like when we traded away 4 players last year and not Bryce). If you are trading our core that will help us compete in the next two years, you have to consider whether it makes sense to include Scherzer and Strasburg in that as well (Stras might be tough because he's got opt-outs fwiw). But you could go nuts and trade away our entire rotation except Corbin if you wanted to. Gomes, Suzuki, Eaton, Dozier, and Rendon from the position group. Go nuts on the blow up, then extend Trea, Soto, Robles, and Kieboom to keep them under contract for another 7-8 years to give yourself time to open up a new window. Try to land a few top 50 rotation prospects and a handful of other quality young players. Then consistently supplement with new free agents over the course of a few years with a goal of being back to contender status by 2022. Thats my philosophy too. If you wanna win, then go all in to win(within reason of course). If you're gonna rebuild, then really rebuild. I don't think we need to bottom out 2009-2010 style because we have some talented young studs. And Zimmerman's contract expires after 2020 I believe, that'll be a huge albatross off our necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Thats my philosophy too. If you wanna win, then go all in to win(within reason of course). If you're gonna rebuild, then really rebuild. I don't think we need to bottom out 2009-2010 style because we have some talented young studs. And Zimmerman's contract expires after 2020 I believe, that'll be a huge albatross off our necks. Zimmerman has a team option for next year. This is effectively his last season unless they negotiate an extension at a back-up level salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Re earlier posts about a "blow it up to compete" strategy... you know who executed that very well recently? Atlanta Braves. They kept a few core players (Freeman the prime example) and moved on from everyone else. 2013 they are division champs, 2014 they were in it but Nats got out to a huge lead... you got the sense the Braves *could* still be contenders though. Instead they decided to blow it up. Couple years later they are division champs again and have a super exciting young core. You're talking about the Nats sacrificing being competitive but probably not champs for like 2-3 years for the potential of being WAY better from 2022-2029. Edited April 29, 2019 by skinsfan_1215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Glad to see Rosenthal going to West Palm. Let him get some solid innings to get right. And while that happens God help those standing in the batter's box against him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Shamelessly linking my tweet above because I think it's brilliant. Can you imagine Fedde and Ross each going 3 innings as openers every 3rd day? Scherzer emptying the tank at 80 pitches in the 9th? Doolittle's appearances would be cut in half, keeping him fresh too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Shamelessly linking my tweet above because I think it's brilliant. Can you imagine Fedde and Ross each going 3 innings as openers every 3rd day? Scherzer emptying the tank at 80 pitches in the 9th? Doolittle's appearances would be cut in half, keeping him fresh too. one problem, which soul on this earth is going to be brave enough to try and sell that plan to Max Scherzer? Edited April 29, 2019 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 18 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: one problem, which soul on this earth is going to be brave enough to try and sell that plan to Max Scherzer? “Hey Max, you know how the bullpen keeps blowing your games...?” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Love Corbin more every time you see him! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Love Corbin more every time you see him! I feel completely at ease with him on the mound He pitches like nothing phases him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Bullpen lights out! SP let's them bat around the order in an inning. Lineup only gets 4 hits. Never firing on all cylinders. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 5 hours ago, StillUnknown said: one problem, which soul on this earth is going to be brave enough to try and sell that plan to Max Scherzer? I want Max to be a part of this organization in some capacity for as long as possible. He has fire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Again. Terrible handling of injuries... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 In other news y'all will be happy to hear Harper is striking out at an alarmingly high rate in Philly. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 And Rendon to the IL. I'm sure his bruise is actually some weird inflammation of a random ligament that will have him out a month from a getting hit by a damn pitch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CRobi21 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Riggo#44 said: Again. Terrible handling of injuries... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Smelling like another lost season... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I like to think we have smart people in the front office, but they do really stupid, indefensible things some times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I'm still dreaming of a full 162 with Eaton and Turner at the top of the lineup. Something that will never happen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Wow. When you're cursed, you're cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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