@DCGoldPants Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 Advanced issues found ▲ 47 minutes ago, Popeman38 said: You can’t throw away these opportunities to make up games by managing a win into a loss. Fedde faces 16 batters through 6 innings. The bullpen faced 16 in 1-1/3 inning. If a starter faces 16 batters through 6, you leave him in until he at least gets in trouble. While I agree that they pulled the starter too early. It was because you're playing an AL team and have a late flight before a 4 game division series. So, after the delay, I would have started mostly backups all over and rested the guys who I'd start the next game. The result of that one game while important is statistically less than the next game. That's a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bacon Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Popeman38 said: You can’t throw away these opportunities to make up games by managing a win into a loss. Fedde faces 16 batters through 6 innings. The bullpen faced 16 in 1-1/3 inning. If a starter faces 16 batters through 6, you leave him in until he at least gets in trouble. Using Davey’s logic, Suero should have been hooked after throwing 4 pitches. Why doe the BP get a longer leash than a starter who is well rested? It’s moronic. Fedde said he was good to go and wanted to stay in the game. He was cruising. It was the latest in a LONG list of stupid decisions. Davey is not worthy of being a big league manager. That was a AA move where management is dictated by club policy to protect young players or players on a rehab assignment. “Can’t let my 5th starter face a lineup for the 3rd time no matter how well he’s been pitching and how low his pitch count is.” -Dummbledorf. I'm right there with you; I was the first one in the thread to break down how bad the move was, before Suero even screwed up. But I am also trying to find a silver lining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Did Martinez give his rationale for pulling Fedde? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHuv21 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dan T. said: Did Martinez give his rationale for pulling Fedde? That he hadn't pitched in 15 days. By that rational, is he pulling Max after 60 pitches on Sunday? Good luck.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, @SkinsGoldPants said: While I agree that they pulled the starter too early. It was because you're playing an AL team and have a late flight before a 4 game division series. So, after the delay, I would have started mostly backups all over and rested the guys who I'd start the next game. The result of that one game while important is statistically less than the next game. That's a fact. Fedde is the one guy in that game that should have been used until he was dead. Everyone else is going to have to contribute in the next series. If the goal is to make sure everyone is rested for ATL and the results of the game are less important, Fedde should have thrown 9 innings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 At the very least you let Fedde start the 7th then let his performance dictate if you yank him. Seems simple enough, but i'm just a fan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, StillUnknown said: At the very least you let Fedde start the 7th then let his performance dictate if you yank him. Seems simple enough, but i'm just a fan Yeah that's where I am. I will say in a somewhat limited defense of Davey, earlier this season Fedde would go 2x through the order effectively all the time and then get crushed the third time. Going to a rested Suero *should* have been fine, he's been good on 3 days rest this year. Then you go Rodney, then Doolittle. Game over. Sipp, Guerra, and Grace don't appear in this game if Suero puts up a clean inning. Also notable: we had a one run lead so Fedde didn't have any margin for error if the 3rd time through treated him like it's done *all year*. If we get more than 4 goddamn hits against the Os, Fedde has a 3-4 run lead and probably gets the 7th. Lack of offense was killer last night, and when you only score 2 runs every pitching decision made is magnified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I get that Braves series is the one to focus on, but then isn't that all the more reason to ride out Fedde as long as you can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, bearrock said: I get that Braves series is the one to focus on, but then isn't that all the more reason to ride out Fedde as long as you can? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 11 hours ago, StillUnknown said: Post-loss Davey always looks like a kid waiting to be yelled at by his parents for some **** they did in school I swear he dyes his beard grey to look older. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I swear he dyes his beard grey to look older. Reminds me of the rapid aging of our presidents from entering office to leaving. Stress is a ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Welp they just showed Max throwing pregame. Tried to ramp it up and grimaced. Then shut it down for the day. Might not be ready in time to pitch in ATL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearrock Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, CRobi21 said: Welp they just showed Max throwing pregame. Tried to ramp it up and grimaced. Then shut it down for the day. Might not be ready in time to pitch in ATL. At this point I'm just worried about this being something more serious or lingering. Back issue is not something you want to hear about your mid thirties ace. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 hours ago, skinsfan_1215 said: Reminds me of the rapid aging of our presidents from entering office to leaving. Stress is a ****. Right? My dude Obama was leader of the free world, had an entire political party take their ball and go home on him, and AND had two teenage daughters? Dude looked like he passed the ACA for himself by time he left... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 so we blow our opp in the 1st, the braves convert theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 When will we stop pitching to Freeman??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Don’t pitch to Freeman! ****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Lotta pitches for Stras. Good thing our pen is well rested.. Oh wait. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 next couple of batters need to work counts. Give Stras a long breather after all that running lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Wow. Honestly feel like the other team has made that catch every time this year. It's about damn time we get a break like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Baseball...is...bizarre. We now have the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 i appreciate them allowing Stras a breather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 And Zimm struck-out to this guy...ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Metalhead said: And Zimm struck-out to this guy...ugh. To be fair, so did Turner. Though I suppose if you twist my arm, I'm looking more forward to the rest of Turner's career and AB's than I am Zimm's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) Victor! ****ing idiot fan.. Edited July 19, 2019 by CRobi21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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