BayouBrave86 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I hope the Eagles DESTROY us Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, ExoDus84 said: **** it. I'm planting coke on Bruce Allen's car and calling the popo. Somebody has to take action and get that clown out of here. BRB. Don't forget to add some in Dan's car. Adds so numbers of famous escort girl or stuff like that so the NFL have to step in like they did in Carolina... 38 minutes ago, KillBill26 said: I was just thinking of that possibility, and that would be the only thing that would save the Redskins from reaching rock bottom. A complete overhaul that includes Bruce being fired can be a good thing. Letting Bruce stay while everyone else around him is let go is an absolute disaster. As boss Hogg said, I hope our current state does not chase Schaeffer or smith away, but I wouldn't be surprised if they jumped at the first offer that came their way. Even for a lateral move as far as title involving a pay cut, a better organization has to be much more appealing than where we are at. And that will set us back even farther. If they wanted to fire Bruce, they would have just started with him. They let the new guy decides who's worth and who's not. Going the other is nonsense. 30 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: This is the closest in my 30 yrs of existence I’ve ever been to giving up completely on the Redskins. I’m not sure what I’d do after but enough is enough. Incompetent is one but deliberately destructive is another. I'm seriously considering mine as well... Time for a change of avatar anyway. Triple facepalm won't be enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Boycott everything. Don't buy tickets, merchandise, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I agree that it is bizarre that Lafemina and the merry men are departing after less than a year. But what exactly did those guys do, besides try to protect STH value (arguably important, especially with a new stadium not too far down the pike) by limiting the number of tickets made available to brokers, and thus raising prices on the secondary market? Again, this contributing to the bad optic of many empty sections had to have not sat well with Snyder. I'd have at least been curious to see what they would've recommended to Snyder to fix this optic........they probably did tell him and he found the answer unacceptable. Maybe go back to the way they were doing it before. If more people decide to ditch their tickets, so be it. Attendance can't get much worse than what it was this season (at least I think!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Wildbunny said: If they wanted to fire Bruce, they would have just started with him. They let the new guy decides who's worth and who's not. Going the other is nonsense. I agree that would be the more rational approach. But Dan Snyder is not a rational person. I also don't believe a house cleaning is coming, just saying that a house cleaning would be the only way I feel in any way optimistic for the future. If BA stays on board while these guys are let go, it is more proof we are descending towards rock bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Can we just change the site to ExtremePackers now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 On to page 3 without so much as anyone defending Dan/Bruce and telling us this is all a media fueled attack on the Redskins. That’s progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boss_Hogg Posted December 26, 2018 Author Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 minute ago, hail2skins said: I agree that it is bizarre that Lafemina and the merry men are departing after less than a year. But what exactly did those guys do, besides try to protect STH value (arguably important, especially with a new stadium not too far down the pike) by limiting the number of tickets made available to brokers, and thus raising prices on the secondary market? Again, this contributing to the bad optic of many empty sections had to have not sat well with Snyder. I'd have at least been curious to see what they would've recommended to Snyder to fix this optic........they probably did tell him and he found the answer unacceptable. Quote Lafemina came from the NFL league office and was a major force in changing the Redskins strategy on ticket sales. The new business strategy was transparency with fans, and the team removed their long-standing season ticket wait list and told fans tickets were available for home games. For decades, Redskins tickets were impossible to get. Now, they are available, but the problem is not that many fans seem to want to go. It’s hard to know if that’s a direct result from the change in strategy, or rather a two decade plunge into mediocrity. The new business team was given less than a year to implement their ideas, and it will be hard to know if things improve next season. Each of these executives were brought in amid press releases and with sparkling resumes from other NFL positions. Their now absence seems odd, especially after such a short tenure. The team did not comment on the personnel changes. Bruce Allen remains as Team President and Eric Schaffer, Doug Williams and Kyle Smith will continue in their posts. https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-make-major-changes-business-operations-brian-lafemina-out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, KillBill26 said: I agree that would be the more rational approach. But Dan Snyder is not a rational person. I also don't believe a house cleaning is coming, just saying that a house cleaning would be the only way I feel in any way optimistic for the future. If BA stays on board while these guys are let go, it is more proof we are descending towards rock bottom. House cleaning is on its way. Problem is that it is Bruce Allen that is doing the cleaning... 1 minute ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: On to page 3 without so much as anyone defending Dan/Bruce and telling us this is all a media fueled attack on the Redskins. That’s progress. You mean @HardcoreZorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SprintBomb Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 38 minutes ago, RichmondRedskin88 said: This is the closest in my 30 yrs of existence I’ve ever been to giving up completely on the Redskins. I’m not sure what I’d do after but enough is enough. Incompetent is one but deliberately destructive is another. I felt this way when they fired Scott McCloughan. I don't get excited for games or the start of a new season anymore. I used to make plans around games so I wouldn't miss one. Now if I miss a game I don't care. I just watch highlights. It's actually refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin4ever Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, hail2skins said: I agree that it is bizarre that Lafemina and the merry men are departing after less than a year. But what exactly did those guys do, besides try to protect STH value (arguably important, especially with a new stadium not too far down the pike) by limiting the number of tickets made available to brokers, and thus raising prices on the secondary market? Again, this contributing to the bad optic of many empty sections had to have not sat well with Snyder. I'd have at least been curious to see what they would've recommended to Snyder to fix this optic........they probably did tell him and he found the answer unacceptable. Maybe go back to the way they were doing it before. If more people decide to ditch their tickets, so be it. Attendance can't get much worse than what it was this season (at least I think!). We all want something different. I don’t know what these guys did, but it was an outside view of the organization in hopes of change. I think most of us would not have even batted an eye of Allen was fired and all these guys were fired/resigned too. But what we all see is that Allen remains, so whoever else is let go, warranted or not, doesn’t make any of us feel better. It makes us all feel worse thinking there is no hope for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, Wildbunny said: You mean @HardcoreZorn? There were atleast a few others, but that pack is dying off at a rapid pace. Please don’t tell me I missed a defense of this BS and gave too much credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderhill Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I put this in another thread but feel it fits here aswell. After the latest news of the marketing guys being out, I want this franchise to completely bottom out. it's been a **** show for so long and I have kept the faith that things might change. I've been a fan since 1977. Now I find myself every year telling my family how this year could be different/better, it never is. I want the ****tiest character people signed to the team, the worst stadium and field conditions, make Bruce part owner, screw the salary cap beyond fixing, get caught cheating in games, make it so they have to sign guys off the streets because no free agents will come here. If its bad I WANT it too happen here. Franchise is beyond a joke, its beyond fixing with current setup/ownership. So at this point I say good job what they are doing. Until they reach absolute bottom, there will be zero effective changes. I dont know what else to do, I cant walk away, it's been a part of me/my life for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 I feel like this team needs to be Baker Acted for their own good. I'm actually not surprised, I just wrote about this a few days ago, Lafemina can't do his job with Bruce here so I figured you would see this move if Dan wasn't willing to get rid of Bruce and change his overall approach with this team, there was really no other choice for Lafemina. This is not a good sign for the fans of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, hail2skins said: I agree that it is bizarre that Lafemina and the merry men are departing after less than a year. But what exactly did those guys do, besides try to protect STH value (arguably important, especially with a new stadium not too far down the pike) by limiting the number of tickets made available to brokers, and thus raising prices on the secondary market? Again, this contributing to the bad optic of many empty sections had to have not sat well with Snyder. I'd have at least been curious to see what they would've recommended to Snyder to fix this optic........they probably did tell him and he found the answer unacceptable. Maybe go back to the way they were doing it before. If more people decide to ditch their tickets, so be it. Attendance can't get much worse than what it was this season (at least I think!). Well those guys were supposed to put the Redskins' train market on its rails. And with someone like LaFemina being at every games and greeting fans and stuff, he probably asked tons of them what the Redskins should do? I'm pretty sure "Fire Bruce" was in first place of the things he heard about. Now the Reuben Foste's signing as been a PR nightmare for those guys at it threw their hard work to dust... So as John Keim said, it's not really a surprise, but that sucks nonetheless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 This is awful news. It certainly suggests really powerfully that Allen is back. If he's making these calls and has this influence it's just a really bad sign. Worse, it's just another sign of Allen's stupidity. Does he really think... does anyone at Redskins' Park think this will distract the fans from the recent PR bungles? Ugh!!! How do you hire a guy of Lafemina's credentials and not even give him a couple of years to see his vision through... hell, they barely gave him six months. Irresponsible hiring and firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SprintBomb Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, wunderhill said: I put this in another thread but feel it fits here aswell. After the latest news of the marketing guys being out, I want this franchise to completely bottom out. it's been a **** show for so long and I have kept the faith that things might change. I've been a fan since 1977. Now I find myself every year telling my family how this year could be different/better, it never is. I want the ****tiest character people signed to the team, the worst stadium and field conditions, make Bruce part owner, screw the salary cap beyond fixing, get caught cheating in games, make it so they have to sign guys off the streets because no free agents will come here. If its bad I WANT it too happen here. Franchise is beyond a joke, its beyond fixing with current setup/ownership. So at this point I say good job what they are doing. Until they reach absolute bottom, there will be zero effective changes. I dont know what else to do, I cant walk away, it's been a part of me/my life for so long. Walking away is difficult to do. I've been a fan since about '85 or' 86. We are lucky enough to remember the good times. It's those good times that keep us hanging on. I've never completely walked away from this team, and probably never will, but my attitude has changed. I don't care nearly as much as I used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isifhan Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, lavar1156 said: Boycott everything. Don't buy tickets, merchandise, etc. Sure - do this and it might bring down revenues slightly. The problem is the league is set up to be a win / win for owners. They get shared TV revenue no matter what, they still will have (albeit not as many) fans in the stands due to at least some fans from other teams going to games, they'll have corporate sponsorships, food, beverage etc, etc. I don't say this because I know what the answer is to get Ownership to pay attention I don't but Snyder is not selling the team. The team can be (and is likely heading to be if not already there) the worst team in the league, they still make MILLIONS a year. Maybe target the corporate sponsors, maybe hit up the other partial owners, I think there was a story or stories about some of the minority owners being fed up with Bruce at some point, but no matter what - there's just not an incentive to sell the team. He literally doesn't have to do much of anything and he wakes up to millions a year. Maybe players refuse to sign here in terms of Free Agents, OK there's still the draft and there's still those athletes looking to get out of whatever situation they are in trying to get a shot at playing in the league. No matter how bad the team is there's only so many of those opportunities so it's not like players won't come here. Maybe quality players won't but hey, that hasn't been an issue in a while anyway. *Edit - I know you probably weren't suggesting Snyder sell (maybe you were) but even if that's not the case - I doubt there's really that much that can be done that hasn't been done already this season that will get Snyder's attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderhill Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Just now, SprintBomb said: Walking away is difficult to do. I've been a fan since about '85 or' 86. We are lucky enough to remember the good times. It's those good times that keep us hanging on. I've never completely walked away from this team, and probably never will, but my attitude has changed. I don't care nearly as much as I used to. I truly wish I could get there. At the end of the season the last few years I have told my wife and kids that I'm giving up on the skins and football in general. They must laugh at me. Then the season gets close and I'm sucked right back in 100% in hope they get right. It never does. Even the wins feel empty because I know they will do something to **** it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Welp... next year will be all about waiting for the eventual crash of this clown car, dumpster fire. No false hope to fool us this time. No hype or fools gold. The utter dysfunction is on complete display. I hate what these assholes have done to my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Birdlives Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Disappointed, but definitely not shocked. **** Bruce Allen and **** Dan Snyder. I’m on the verge of spending my time rooting against this team. They’re not my Redskins anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 1 hour ago, clskinsfan said: Any chance this is a precursor to a complete overhaul? Snyder has Allen fire everyone then fires him himself? PleasePleasePleasePlease!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veryoldschool Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Dan Snyder has got to be the NFL employer of last resort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Skinhead in Saints Land Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Someone posted about Bruce possibly moving to the business side of things, but let's call a spade a spade. It doesn't matter what title you give Bruce, his finger is on the pulse of everything Redskins. Been a fan all my life, but if he isn't out then I am. Can't do this **** anymore. Why couldn't I have just been a Saints fan like everyone else in Louisiana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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