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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Trump Border Wall Post-Shutdown Discussion (Wall-Fight)

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So just have the house pass their bill with didiaster aid and say why won’t the senate vote for disaster relief??

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13 hours ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

 

Her presidential campaign is going to be over pretty quick.

 

Donald Trump is the reason there is no deal.   He could've gotten 25 billion for his damn wall, in exchange for a permanent fix to DACA in 2017.   Trump said no, asking for more things. So, no deal happened.   His party controlled the full congress for 2 years.  If they really wanted to fund the wall, they could've gotten rid of the fillibuster and viola; funding for a wall.

 

The shutdown will end, when the GOP caves and decides to override any potential Trump veto.   It might be several more weeks before that happens.

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The next thing to watch is HOW the Senate takes up the Trump bill. Will the Dems be allowed to bring up amendments? Or will they even play the game? Will they point out the fact that McConnell has been against "show votes" that Trump won't sign and Pelosi won't agree to for 3 weeks, and he now is putting on a "show vote" that Pelosi won't agree to? Or will they at least try to shape the bill?

Basically, will the Senate GOP channel Trump and block any compromise, or will this be an open process?


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1 minute ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

The Senate GOP will step in line and vote to pass this bill to attempt to push the blame onto Democrats

 

If we are playing the blame game and two out of the three needed agree it would tend to .

I expect the Senate to make it open to amendments and just drag it out more, then the House reject.

 

or maybe the 3 will work together in harmony ......:ols:

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Again, the GOP and Trump are making it look like they don't care about the economic impact to the 800k Fed employees plus the other parts of economy that this ripples through.

If they are serious about negotiating a border security package, why not reopen the government for X weeks?

All the steps they (and primarily it is Trump wirh the lead) have taken so far: shutting down the government, waiting until week 4 to even offer compromise, walking out of meetings, taking on the shutdown mantle are about one thing -- making the WALL a 2020 issue.

He is not getting that wall. The GOP can pretend it is the Dems fault, but they had their hands on goverment and refused to give Trump the wall conveniently they came up with a ploy to blame Nancy for no wall the moment she has the power.

And Nancy is not dumb enough to say, "I am proud to reject border security."

Most Americans are against the wall -- does President Polling know this?

He wants the shutdown to last until Congress hammers out halfway steps of Comprehensive Immigration Reform? And now the racist right is upset because DACA is "amnesty".

Opening up the government and dropping his demand for Wall are good faith steps that the Dems have asked for since Day 1. What good faith steps has Trump/GOP taken? Shutting down the govt?

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1 hour ago, Fergasun said:

Again, the GOP and Trump are making it look like they don't care about the economic impact to the 800k Fed employees plus the other parts of economy that this ripples through.

 

"Making it look like"??  They don't care, could give a rats ass.  It's about personal power and standing.

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On 1/20/2019 at 7:37 AM, Cooked Crack said:

Who's he supposed to be appealing to with this?

Ann Coulter

 

I wish that was a joke but that's exactly what he's doing.

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13 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Ann Coulter

 

I wish that was a joke but that's exactly what he's doing.

He's failing at that talking about amnesia in the future. The right wingers can't get down with that .

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Maybe the tide is sloooowly starting to turn.  

 

“What the [expletive] were we thinking?” he asked the other night inside a Walmart here, in an area of blue-collar suburban Detroit that helped deliver Trump the presidency.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-voters-now-blame-him-for-the-government-shutdown/2019/01/20/416051de-1b55-11e9-9ebf-c5fed1b7a081_story.html?utm_term=.3794f43e2108

 

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How soon will those on various forms of Federal assistance stop receiving their checks?

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Just now, Corcaigh said:

How soon will those on various forms of Federal assistance stop receiving their checks?

Will vary by state, but some will start at the end of Feb. I believe.  

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1 minute ago, HOF44 said:

Will vary by state, but some will start at the end of Feb. I believe.  

 

The Feds have paid that much money in advance to the states?

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2 minutes ago, Corcaigh said:

 

The Feds have paid that much money in advance to the states?

That much was able to be scraped up and allocated.  Was supposed to be until the end of Jan. but payments were found to extend until the end of Feb.  

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/government-shutdown-are-food-stamps-snap-wic-benefits-paid-2019-1

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8 hours ago, Fergasun said:

Again, the GOP and Trump are making it look like they don't care about the economic impact to the 800k Fed employees plus the other parts of economy that this ripples through.

If they are serious about negotiating a border security package, why not reopen the government for X weeks?

All the steps they (and primarily it is Trump wirh the lead) have taken so far: shutting down the government, waiting until week 4 to even offer compromise, walking out of meetings, taking on the shutdown mantle are about one thing -- making the WALL a 2020 issue.

 

The fix is in. They know Trump wins in 2020 and the GOP regains full control.

 

Trump, the GOP and the Russians are already working on rigging the 2020 election in their favor.

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It's pretty bad.

 

https://theweek.com/speedreads/818966/senate-republicans-released-trumps-shutdown-bill-makes-big-quiet-changes-asylum-process

 

This is a huge set of changes that, on its own, is vastly worse than the "benefit" of 3 years of protections (mind you, given the court order and the narrowness of the law, this benefit is basically zero to a detriment), which combined with the wall funding makes this bill truly unconscionable.

 

It'll be a good test to see which Dems and Reps are playing political games by giving lip service to this "compromise" which is really anything but.

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