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The GOP narrative on why they're supporting Trump doing something they'd been against until now, makes even less sense than usual.  

Why are they blaming Schumer and Pelosi for doing what they also did?  

 

I mean obviously it's bull****, but it's not even thinly defensible bull****.  

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The Dems better have a strong NC candidate cause the ads for Tillis write themselves with such a flip flop like this. 

 

Sasse is simply the new Flake. No spine at all. 

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1 hour ago, visionary said:

 

 

Translation: 

 

“Only I get to decide when and where to apply the constitution, especially not the liberals”. 

 

“Constitutionalism” and “fiscal conservatism” should never ever be taken seriously by anyone.

 

There are two parties in this country, both like interpreting the constitution to their benefit and both are fiscally liberal. Just a different set of policies and priorities. 

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42 minutes ago, No Excuses said:

 

Translation: 

 

“Only I get to decide when and where to apply the constitution, especially not the liberals”. 

 

“Constitutionalism” and “fiscal conservatism” should never ever be taken seriously by anyone.

 

There are two parties in this country, both like interpreting the constitution to their benefit and both are fiscally liberal. Just a different set of policies and priorities. 

Watch the media act like these clowns are serious when a Democrat takes the White House.

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There should be a mandatory laugh track that gets played whenever one of these numbnuts goes on TV and talks about being a "constitutional conservative".

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Watching Face the Nation right now. Congressman from Virginia is saying that the White House is ordering SecDef to refuse to give congress, even the Defense committee, the list of which programs Trump intends to steal his wall money from. He claims they're hiding this list because they believe that, if Congress sees what's been targeted, they'll vote to override Trump. 

 

Mulvaney was on before him, and claimed that there is no such list, that there's a list of things that are eligible to be raided. He stated that their criteria is programs that won't be spent till FY2020 or later. He also said that part of the plan is to steal funds from programs, and then see if congress will allocate more money, to replenish the funds that got stolen. 

 

Edit:  And who told this host that a blue blazer and a green tie was a good look?  Looks like a Batman villain. 

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On 3/14/2019 at 6:39 PM, No Excuses said:

 

 

There are two parties in this country, both like interpreting the constitution to their benefit and both are fiscally liberal. Just a different set of policies and priorities. 

I think I can agree with this though I would argue that while both parties are fiscally liberal, one party tries to be fiscally responsible. It's the one that always lowers the deficits and tries to pay for its spending.

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3 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

Really?  Did DoD make a request?  To the committee?  

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"I'm going to shut down legal economic activity. Because of somebody. Haven't decided who, yet. But when I do, it'll be somebody else who made me do it."

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TOP MARINE GENERAL LET EMAILS LEAK AMID BORDER FUNDING FIGHT SO SERVICE FAMILIES WOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN: SOURCES

 

The Marines’ top general allowed internal memos to leak out of the Pentagon to bring attention to service families living among hurricane-ravaged military installations as the Trump administration tries to bankroll the southwest border with defense funds at the expense of combat readiness.

 

General Robert Neller, the commandant of the Marine Corps, let two internal Defense Department memorandums leak to The Los Angeles Times and NBC News in the past two weeks, two Pentagon sources, who asked not to be named due to U.S. military media regulations, told Newsweek.

 

The letters underscore the fiscal challenges the service is facing as it struggles to support security operations at the southwest border while “unplanned/unbudgeted” line items plague the general’s fiscal agenda, a burden Neller asserts is an “unacceptable risk to Marine Corps combat readiness and solvency.”

 

When asked why Neller would allow internal memorandums to leak to press outlets, one Defense Department source expressed bluntly, “Because he didn’t want the Marines and families at Camp Lejeune [in North Carolina] to get f***ed.”

 

Six months after Hurricane Florence first made landfall at Wrightsville Beach in North Carolina, roughly an hour southwest of Camp Lejeune, the base is still waiting on funding for repairs.

 

In Neller's letters, unexpected service spending bills, including for President Donald Trump's southwest border operations, left the Marine general no choice but to cancel or significantly drawback planned military training exercises. The Marine commandant canceled the Integrated Training Exercise, known to Marines as ITX, for II Marine Expeditionary Force. ITX is a large-scale, combined-arms training exercise in the Mojave Desert at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine Palms, California. 

 

“The combat readiness of II Marine Expeditionary Force—1/3 the combat power of the Marine Corps—is degraded and will continue to degrade given current conditions,” Neller wrote in the letters obtained by Newsweek and first reported by The Los Angeles Times.

 

Newsweek previously reported that Trump took Defense Department officials by surprise when he first ordered U.S. troops to the southwest border last fall. Senior-level officers at the Pentagon said they believed the president's move was politically motivated, due to the mobilization of military units coming less than a week before the midterm elections. 

 

Congressional Democrats in the House repeatedly cited Neller’s letters last week on Capitol Hill as Pentagon officials rolled out the Defense Department’s budget for fiscal year 2020. Lawmakers used the memos to reinforce their arguments against shifting Defense Department funds to aid in the construction of President Donald Trump’s border wall.

U.S. Marine General Joseph Dunford Jr., the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, tried to clarify Neller’s letters when he told Congress last week the Marine commandant was listing the number of “unanticipated bills” the service was on the hook for paying in the current fiscal year, among them, the “unplanned/unbudgeted Southwest Border Operations.” 

 

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