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26 minutes ago, justice98 said:

Schumer and Pelosi called this rather significant and serious matter a "power grab".  By contrast, Mitch McConnell called making Election Day a holiday a power grab. Moral to the story, McConnell is an a-hole.

 

Everytime he opens his mouth, it just blows my mind how awful he is.  How can anybody support this guy? 

 

Still better than Hillary!

 

#EmailsBenghaziPizzaGateSethRichFast&FuriousClintonMurdersFMLKILLMENOW

 

15 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said:

Party of Trump.

 

Sometimes I'm genuinely unsure of whether McConnell or Trump have been worse for this country. Trump is an easy case to make because he's such an overt and fast moving disaster in real time, but McConnell has been a really slow, steady, and persistent source of awfulness for a very long time so that case can be made as well.

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18 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Still better than Hillary!

 

#EmailsBenghaziPizzaGateSethRichFast&FuriousClintonMurdersFMLKILLMENOW

 

 

Sometimes I'm genuinely unsure of whether McConnell or Trump have been worse for this country. Trump is an easy case to make because he's such an overt and fast moving disaster in real time, but McConnell has been a really slow, steady, and persistent source of awfulness for a very long time so that case can be made as well.

McConnell. Trump may get there, but McConnell's policies have led to the hyperpartisanship, composition of the Supreme Court, and indescribable amounts of debt and other damage... all for the sake of keeping his party in power.

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1 hour ago, NoCalMike said:

Republican leadership is afraid of the Trump base.  That is all there is to it.  Issue after issue they will accidentally let slip how insane Trump is, and then it usually takes 24 hours or less for them to do a 180 reversal.

 

Thing is if he's alive and speaking when he's not President. He'll still tell his mouth breathers to go at the GOP for not supporting him better. They are screwed either way. 

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1 hour ago, mistertim said:

Sometimes I'm genuinely unsure of whether McConnell or Trump have been worse for this country. Trump is an easy case to make because he's such an overt and fast moving disaster in real time, but McConnell has been a really slow, steady, and persistent source of awfulness for a very long time so that case can be made as well.

Depends what you think is worse, someone who sneaks into the China shop once every couple days and steals something thereby causing the business to slowly lose revenue and leaves the back door unlocked when he leaves, or the bull who comes in the open back door and ruins the whole inventory all at once.

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14 minutes ago, @SkinsGoldPants said:

 

For a guy who has built so much. He will be long dead before a wall is completed. Even if he wasn't woefully overweight and unhealthy at his age. 

 

Think how long it takes to build a highway.

 

Yeah, which is another reason it makes no since it declare a national emergency over the wall... by the time it is planned out, battled in court, ect, a new administration will probably be in office able to undo whatever decisions trump made, except for the precedent set...  

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3 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

Yeah, which is another reason it makes no since it declare a national emergency over the wall... by the time it is planned out, battled in court, ect, a new administration will probably be in office able to undo whatever decisions trump made, except for the precedent set...  

 

He doesn't understand it. He's imagining a giant wall with a plaque with his name on it like he did on the embassy in Israel where his name is the biggest text.

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16 minutes ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

What will be an interesting legal tidbit to keep your eye on is whether the cases that get filed get fast-tracked by the courts or if they just get added to the regular docket.  In other words, if the judges buy into the "emergency" or not.  Just because a litigant says something is an emergency and should be prioritized does not make it an emergency in the court's eyes.  Of course, this litigant is the POTUS, but still, this is not an emergency by any accepted definition of that word.  

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32 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

 

Yeah, which is another reason it makes no since it declare a national emergency over the wall... by the time it is planned out, battled in court, ect, a new administration will probably be in office able to undo whatever decisions trump made, except for the precedent set...  

 

Keep in mind that Trump doesn't give two flying ****s about the actual wall or even illegal immigration. It's completely symbolic. It could be the wall, it could be gun rights, it could be a goddamn badminton net for all he cares. The important part is that it's something that riles up his base and he knows that if he doesn't follow through (or more accurately, at least keep up the illusion of following through) they'll turn on him or at the very least not be as adoring of him as they were. And THAT would be absolute anathema to him. He cannot survive without that attention and adoration and he absolutely cannot deal with criticism. 

 

With Trump you have to forget about the whole "POTUS" thing insofar as it applies to a president ostensibly having the national interest as the first priority, and instead focus on "what does this do for Trump personally?".

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35 minutes ago, nonniey said:

I'm sure you would (and more if you could).

lol.. nah, that's about it. (and be it clear,, not right leaning people in general.. just folks who support what we are seeing now. This isn't even American politics anymore. You and I agree on much mor than we disagree on, for example. I don't see you as a frothing Trumpster, always respect.)

 The rest.. too old for revolution unless they come to my door.

 

does Prime do revolution?

 

~Bang

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