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Starting QB 2019???

Renegade7

By Renegade7
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Who should be the starting QB in 2019???  

402 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should be the starting QB in 2019???

    • Alex Smith
      29
    • Colt McCoy
      66
    • Trade for a Veteran
      8
    • Sign a Veteran
      29
    • First Round Pick (2019 draft class)
      65
    • Non-First Round Pick (2019 draft class)
      37
    • Too Early to Answer
      63
    • I don't know yet
      22
    • We're screwed (at least at QB for 2019)
      83

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goskins10

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10 minutes ago, RWJ said:

I think it will cost more.  As stated before I think it will come down to our 1st but believe he's worth it.

 

It should not cost us a 1st. But I agree a 3rd will not be enough.  I expect it cost us a 2nd rd which is fine. 

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Califan007 The Constipated

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1 hour ago, OVCChairman said:

I said the same thing, but a poster on here changed my mind.  i think Denver could still be in play for 'the right guy' if he's here at their pick.  If Lock falls, I could see Denver picking him to groom.  

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If Elway's picking the QB, he wasn't gonna be any good anyway lol...

 

 

 

 

 

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SemperFi Skins

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CBS' Jason La Canfora predicts Josh Rosen will be traded to the Redskins for a third-round pick.

La Canfora is purely speculating, but he is also convinced Kyler Murray will be the No. 1 overall pick to the Cardinals. As La Canfora points out, there are not many teams beyond the upper reaches of the draft that need a quarterback this offseason. With Nick Foles seemingly heading to the Jaguars, that does indeed leave the Redskins as perhaps the most plausible landing spot.

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Est.1974

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Rosen is basically on a 3 year 6.5mil contract. My God that is perfect in our situation with the Alex Smith contract. We also get a very good young prospect at QB. Beats Mark Sanchez or Josh Johnson or whichever scrub we'd need by week 6.

 

I'd happily go higher than a third rounder. 

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goskins10

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14 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

Rosen, I'd still swap our 15 for their 33 plus Rosen. 

 

Net trade 'value' is an end of the first / top of the second rounder to them

 

We are left with 2 seconds and 2 thirds....or whatever is left after we've traded for AB :806:

 

I almost typed this myself.  I don’t want to use a first but we get 33 and Rosen that’s a good trade for both.  Your chances of landing a blue chip forex down but it’s not exponential.  

 

AB is another topic. I really do not want him here. Too high cost both in the trade and salary.  But we will see. 

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33 minutes ago, goskins10 said:

 

I almost typed this myself.  I don’t want to use a first but we get 33 and Rosen that’s a good trade for both.  Your chances of landing a blue chip forex down but it’s not exponential.  

 

AB is another topic. I really do not want him here. Too high cost both in the trade and salary.  But we will see. 

 

I dont AB here either, he seems like the type that will just be happy to collect his massive paycheck from Snyder and not put in the work. 

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Est.1974

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Don't have an issue with Keenum, other than he needs to take a salary cut. He seemed a logical target for us, as does Rosen. My plan A/B.

On 3/5/2019 at 8:23 PM, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

Keenum seems to be a bit of a forgotten QB at the minute. 

 

Thinks hes my plan B if the Rosen chatter doesn't turn into anything. Would still draft someone as well.

 

Rosen plan A still. Come around to that being a great move, based on a reasonable trade price.

 

Not forgotten anymore. Think it'll be a shrewd move for little trade cost....and a contract restructure...

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Skinsinparadise

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2018 Regular Season NFL Leaders

RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
1 Patrick Mahomes, KC 77.2 101.0 11.7 3.2 126.0 722 82.0 81.8
2 Drew Brees, NO 60.1 80.2 5.4 6.2 100.5 562 81.9 80.8
3 Mitchell Trubisky, CHI 39.3 43.1 22.1 3.8 80.3 565 72.8 73.0
4 Ben Roethlisberger, PIT 53.5 89.3 8.7 5.1 113.5 762 73.0 71.7
5 Andrew Luck, IND 48.1 84.4 5.0 4.3 103.0 741 71.5 71.7
6 Tom Brady, NE 35.9 63.6 4.4 4.7 82.6 643 68.8 70.5
7 Philip Rivers, LAC 38.1 65.8 -0.9 1.3 79.1 595 71.2 70.0
8 Jameis Winston, TB 32.0 37.8 10.8 5.4 65.6 485 71.8 68.3
9 Matt Ryan, ATL 44.8 60.2 7.4 4.9 92.9 722 70.6 67.9
10 Jared Goff, LAR 29.9 60.8 0.6 4.4 79.9 665 65.4 65.9
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
11 Russell Wilson, SEA 25.1 32.0 11.0 2.6 69.0 571 65.1 65.6
12 Carson Wentz, PHI 21.2 39.8 1.8 3.1 58.5 488 64.9 64.3
13 Deshaun Watson, HOU 26.4 31.8 17.0 3.8 79.5 702 63.0 64.1
14 Kirk Cousins, MIN 21.8 57.3 -5.1 2.2 71.8 718 60.6 61.9
15 Andy Dalton, CIN 18.4 35.4 2.0 3.4 50.6 433 64.6 61.8
16 Aaron Rodgers, GB 14.3 25.1 17.8 3.2 70.0 737 56.8 60.4
17 Dak Prescott, DAL 17.1 35.1 12.2 2.1 71.7 693 58.6 57.7
18 Joe Flacco, BAL 11.0 30.1 2.9 4.6 43.4 441 58.7 57.3
19 Marcus Mariota, TEN 4.1 14.6 6.7 4.8 42.2 471 53.1 55.6
20 Cam Newton, CAR 13.3 41.7 8.4 0.0 62.6 629 57.4 55.6
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
21 Nick Mullens, SF 5.9 23.6 -2.8 1.8 29.0 334 56.2 54.2
22 Matthew Stafford, DET 1.7 25.8 4.2 4.2 49.2 647 50.9 53.8
23 Baker Mayfield, CLE 9.4 34.8 0.9 3.6 51.5 580 55.7 53.6
24 Josh Allen, BUF 2.9 -1.8 24.1 3.5 35.6 461 52.3 52.2
25 Eli Manning, NYG 2.3 30.2 2.0 2.4 54.8 684 51.2 51.6
26 Alex Smith, WSH 4.6 17.8 5.5 2.9 35.0 422 53.8 49.4
27 Derek Carr, OAK -1.2 27.3 2.5 0.2 50.8 669 49.3 49.0
28 Sam Darnold, NYJ -3.0 23.5 3.3 -1.1 36.6 510 47.9 48.4
29 Case Keenum, DEN -4.0 26.9 4.2 3.5 50.6 685 47.9 46.9
30 Blake Bortles, JAX -8.6 9.3 11.6 -1.6 30.5 515 44.1 45.8
RK PLAYER PTS ADDED PASS RUN PENALTY TOTAL EPA QB PLAYS RAW QBR TOTAL QBR
31 Lamar Jackson, BAL -1.2 6.6 13.8 0.4 27.7 338 48.7 45.1
32 Ryan Tannehill, MIA -18.0 -6.3 3.6 0.8 13.4 363 33.1 35.4
33 Josh Rosen, ARI -35.3 -13.6 3.3 1.2 7.9 491 26.6 25.9
Glossary
  • * Season Leaders: On pace for 320 action plays.
  • * All-time data reflects 2006 onwards.
  • PTS ADDED: Number of points contributed by a quarterback over the season, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback.
  • PASS: Clutch-weighted expected points added on plays with pass attempts.
  • RUN: Clutch-weighted expected points added through rushes.
  • PENALTY: Clutch-weighted expected points added on penalties.
  • TOTAL EPA: Total clutch-weighted expected points added.
  • QB PLAYS: Plays on which the QB has a non-zero expected points contribution. Includes most plays that are not handoffs.
  • RAW QBR: Total Quarterback Rating, which values quarterback on all play types on a 0-to-100 scale.
  • TOTAL QBR: Opponent adjusted QBR.
 

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RWJ

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7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

this is catching fire on twitter

 

 

 

Don't know what to think about this?  As far as compensation pretty good but as far as money we need to do a good job restructuring Keenum's deal.  That would be the dicey part.  He's an OK player but wonder how this affect us drafting a QB this year?

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Est.1974

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1 minute ago, RWJ said:

Don't know what to think about this?  As far as compensation pretty good but as far as money we need to do a good job restructuring Keenum's deal.  That would be the dicey part.  He's an OK player but wonder how this affect us drafting a QB this year?

 

Smith is toast. I think it's a vet, say Keenum, and a rookie, or even still Rosen if the cost is a third. If we go later in the draft for QB, my bet is Stidham. 

 

We need to stock up at QB. 

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Skinsinparadise

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10 minutes ago, RWJ said:

Don't know what to think about this?  As far as compensation pretty good but as far as money we need to do a good job restructuring Keenum's deal.  That would be the dicey part.  He's an OK player but wonder how this affect us drafting a QB this year?

 

He's getting really nice money so that would have to change for sure.  If they are paying anyway near his current contract I'd hate it.  I like him as a dude, enjoyed watching him on hard knocks -- following his story with his girl friend at the time.    I recall he's a really good play action QB.  Otherwise aside from a season ago in Minny, he's been mostly a journeyman type.  Bandaid veteran.  Mediocre at best.  

 

This move is sort of how I expect them to roll.  Hopefully this doesn't preclude them to get a young guy.  But if this is their whole solution -- on the surface it looks like a "meh" move.  But I'll dive into Keenum some before landing on a hard position on him.  His QBR last year is horrendous as it been through his whole career sans 2017.

 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KeenCa00.htm

 

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Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD AV
2012 24 HOU           0 0   0 0   0   0             0 0       0 0 0
2013 25 HOU QB 7 8 8 0-8-0 137 253 54.2 1760 9 3.6 6 2.4 66 7.0 6.6 12.8 220.0 78.2 48.3 19 201 5.73 5.40 7.0     4
2014 26 2TM     2 2 2-0-0 45 77 58.4 435 2 2.6 2 2.6 35 5.6 5.0 9.7 217.5 72.2   3 15 5.25 4.63 3.8 1 1 1
    HOU qb 17 2 2 2-0-0 45 77 58.4 435 2 2.6 2 2.6 35 5.6 5.0 9.7 217.5 72.2   3 15 5.25 4.63 3.8 1 1 1
    STL     0     0 0   0 0   0   0             0 0       0 0  
2015 27 STL qb 17 6 5 3-2-0 76 125 60.8 828 4 3.2 1 0.8 60 6.6 6.9 10.9 138.0 87.7 39.4 4 28 6.20 6.47 3.1     2
2016 28 LAR QB 17 10 9 4-5-0 196 322 60.9 2201 9 2.8 11 3.4 65 6.8 5.9 11.2 220.1 76.4 37.1 23 140 5.97 5.06 6.7 1 2 3
2017 29 MIN QB 7 15 14 11-3-0 325 481 67.6 3547 22 4.6 7 1.5 65 7.4 7.6 10.9 236.5 98.3 74.3 22 136 6.78 7.03 4.4 1 3 14
2018 30 DEN QB 4 16 16 6-10-0 365 586 62.3 3890 18 3.1 15 2.6 64 6.6 6.1 10.7 243.1 81.2 47.9 34 235 5.90 5.39
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wit33

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A QB commanding 20mil last year now rumored to be swapped for a late picks lol The QB bubble has bursted and FOs are crazy. 

 

Keenum is a solid move. Doesn’t intrigue me like Rosen from a long term standpoint, but I like his approach to the game and ability to make plays off script. Make McCoy earn it. Competition is a great motivator. 

 

“Eh” kind of move. 

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