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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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Starting QB 2019???

Who should be the starting QB in 2019???  

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  1. 1. Who should be the starting QB in 2019???

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9 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

 

I understand where you were coming from simply because even twitter news is just hearsay unless it's a direct quote. What Gruden said in that article is actually what ticked me off as a fan because it just seems like past mistakes (RG lll nightmare) are never corrected. Even if he is back by next week, the fact that they even thought that was a good idea is scary. 

 

When I heard they weren't putting Colt on IR because he had a chance to return and play, I thought WTF? lol...the injury was too serious for that possibility to be considered, and I mean, let's face it...it's Colt McCoy we're talking about lol. I get thinking that if by some insane reason Josh Johnson somehow lead the team to the playoffs, we'd be stuck with Sanchez as his backup, and seeing your #1 and #2 QBs go down with broken legs within weeks of each other would have you realistically wondering what the chances would be of seeing Sanchez on the field in the postseason. But it's still Colt McCoy lol...

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Omg, I'm sooo sorry, jus saw the BR article about us looking to trade into top 5.  Insanity ensues.

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3 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Omg, I'm sooo sorry, jus saw the BR article about us looking to trade into top 5.  Insanity ensues.

Who are we so in love with we would do such a thing ? Don't tell me Dwayne Haskins ?! At 15 ok but trading up HELL NO!

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5 minutes ago, Renegade7 said:

Omg, I'm sooo sorry, jus saw the BR article about us looking to trade into top 5.  Insanity ensues.

Just when we didn't think it could get any worse. I had heard they were trying to move up to 3. If it took another two firsts and a second to go from 6 to 2 What would the cost be to move to three? For this guy???

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10 minutes ago, JoeJacobyHOForRIOT said:

Who are we so in love with we would do such a thing ? Don't tell me Dwayne Haskins ?! At 15 ok but trading up HELL NO!

 

Believe it or not, that's where I'm at.  Take a pass rusher if he doesnt fall, holy ****, man.

9 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

Just when we didn't think it could get any worse. I had heard they were trying to move up to 3. If it took another two firsts and a second to go from 6 to 2 What would the cost be to move to three? For this guy???

 

The math was about what I put in April fools thread, but no way we have balls to trade CT and Reed.  He will be worth it long run, but damn, no doubt Colt procedure is forcing this.

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This fits roughly in line with the 'sources' we've been hearing so far.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

I was banging the table for Case 3 years ago. Wish we would've moved on it then.

But if we had he'd be long gone by now and we'd still be where we are now.

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3 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

But if we had he'd be long gone by now and we'd still be where we are now.

Not if traded Kirk for a draft pick, while he still had value.

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8 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

Not if traded Kirk for a draft pick, while he still had value.

Ok, we'd have traded the kirk pick and the rest for Dalton instead of Alex and went 7-9 evey year anyway. 

 

Trying to imagine a scenario where Bruce isn't gonna Bruce if he didn't already Bruce is kinda hilarious though.

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17 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

Just when we didn't think it could get any worse. I had heard they were trying to move up to 3. If it took another two firsts and a second to go from 6 to 2 What would the cost be to move to three? For this guy???

What about trading up to 3 and then trade it to Arizona for Josh Rosen? 

 

Sounds like a good plan to me.

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4 minutes ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Watch out for Derek Carr... sleeper name from Jay's brother. I could see the Raiders going Murray if AZ doesn't pick him.

While I agree with the possibility of that happening I don't see it even possible from a salary Cap standpoint. Alex and Derek way too cost prohibitive.

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And would they be dumb enough to want to get an overpaid QB that their own coaches brother is trying to get rid of?

 

I guess they might just reset the Doofus bar.

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6 hours ago, SemperFi Skins said:

Watch out for Derek Carr... sleeper name from Jay's brother. I could see the Raiders going Murray if AZ doesn't pick him.

I called it quite some time ago

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can't wait until the draft is over so we don't have to listen to all this bs. so tired of the stupid ass rumors we hear pre draft. the draft has become a mini super bowl

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7 minutes ago, Alexa said:

can't wait until the draft is over so we don't have to listen to all this bs. so tired of the stupid ass rumors we hear pre draft. the draft has become a mini super bowl

Atleast we get to participate in the mini super bowl 😁

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On 4/5/2019 at 11:12 AM, hogdirty said:

I believe all these rumors are from Arizona to get the NYG to give up their #17 pick. 

 

As far as Rosen going to the Redskins, I don't see the Skins trading for Rosen at all.  In fact if the Redskins trade for Rosen I want The ES Moderators to ban me for 30 days because I'm willing to bet it won't happen 😁

 

 

 

Just got back from the Draft Party (which was fun) and I'm still here because I was right.  I don't know what ARZ will do with that guy but who cares because they suck.  I'm so pumped for the Haskins pick I liked Murrays talent but I believe Haskins fits this team perfectly.

 

Also I like the Sweat pick.  I like Ryan Anderson but I understand the pick for Sweat because I think he will be more effective when the Skins go into 4 down linemen in the nickel package.  They needed a replacement for Smith in that position.

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Many of us want to see Haskins sit and learn for the good of his own development. 

 

Set aside any conspiracy theories about Dan or Bruce forcing Jay to start him.

 

Jay straight up said tonight that as the 15th overall pick, Haskins would be given the chance to compete for the starting job.

 

So we need to start considering that Haskins might just already be better than Keenum and Colt and will outright win the starting spot. On the one hand, obviously we hope he's better than these guys, it would be a good sign right out the gate. On the other, it feels like it would be less than ideal for his development and potentially his health. 

 

But given what a film rat he is and how smart he is, and the limitations of the vets' arms i  comparison to his, it's possible he just outright takes the starting spot, since he's being allowed to compete. Which should fuel the QB room's competitiveness, at least. 

 

I'm just saying those of us who wish he'd sit in a potential lame duck year need to get used to the idea that he maybe won't--and not because Snyder or Allen force it. Because he earns it. 

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The Cardinals screwed themselves so bad.  They could have possibly had two first rounders tonight or 2 second rounders tomorrow night, but they were trying to be cute.  Then you still have Lock and Grier that will most likely get drafted tomorrow night .  The Cardz will be lucky to get a 3rd round pick now.  That is really bad considering Josh Rosen was a top 10 pick last draft. Now, they are doing media control and saying they are comfortable keeping both  Qb's which is some BS ass lies.

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This team has playoff potential, and I don't think they are going to put that at risk, by putting Game 1 in the hands of a rookie, regardless of draft position, if he's not totally ready. He's still got to prove himself at an NFL level.

Of course he's going to compete for the starting spot off the bat, for sure, but it's not going to be easily or hastily handed to him.

I'm inclined to think by mid-season he earns it, unless something extraordinarily positive or negative happens.

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21 hours ago, Wildbunny said:

What about trading up to 3 and then trade it to Arizona for Josh Rosen? 

 

Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

I'm not sure if you were serious, and my post is not related to their actual pick of Haskins, but not a chance Rosen's value was the 3rd pick in the draft. 

5 hours ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

Many of us want to see Haskins sit and learn for the good of his own development. 

 

Set aside any conspiracy theories about Dan or Bruce forcing Jay to start him.

 

Jay straight up said tonight that as the 15th overall pick, Haskins would be given the chance to compete for the starting job.

 

So we need to start considering that Haskins might just already be better than Keenum and Colt and will outright win the starting spot. On the one hand, obviously we hope he's better than these guys, it would be a good sign right out the gate. On the other, it feels like it would be less than ideal for his development and potentially his health. 

 

But given what a film rat he is and how smart he is, and the limitations of the vets' arms i  comparison to his, it's possible he just outright takes the starting spot, since he's being allowed to compete. Which should fuel the QB room's competitiveness, at least. 

 

I'm just saying those of us who wish he'd sit in a potential lame duck year need to get used to the idea that he maybe won't--and not because Snyder or Allen force it. Because he earns it. 

 

I agree with you.   Haskins has been competing against top talent, he is already further along in his development than many rookie QBs despite only playing 1 season.   He does not look like a rookie who will need a year of development to beat out the likes of Case Keenum and Colt McCoy but even if he does at least hope has been restored.    

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Colt will start the first 3 games, get injured and replaced by Case Keenum. After the Skins go 3-9, Snyder will push to have Haskins finish the season.

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4 hours ago, Riggo-toni said:

Colt will start the first 3 games, get injured and replaced by Case Keenum. After the Skins go 3-9, Snyder will push to have Haskins finish the season.

Which would be dumb because we wouldn't have anything to play for except getting a lower draft pick.  Of course, that means it's exactly what we will do. 

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