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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Starting QB 2019???

Who should be the starting QB in 2019???  

402 members have voted

  1. 1. Who should be the starting QB in 2019???

    • Alex Smith
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    • Colt McCoy
      66
    • Trade for a Veteran
      8
    • Sign a Veteran
      29
    • First Round Pick (2019 draft class)
      65
    • Non-First Round Pick (2019 draft class)
      37
    • Too Early to Answer
      63
    • I don't know yet
      22
    • We're screwed (at least at QB for 2019)
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17 hours ago, Jericho said:

 

I don't even understand the rumor. There's little chance Haskins gets picked before #6 at best. Why not just trade for #5? Is Tampa really not going to do a deal? Haskins is a good prospect, but a risky one. No one should trade up to #3 for him. No one.

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30 minutes ago, WelshSkinsFan said:

If this is accurate then it raise a major red flag around Haskins, over involved parents with their own agenda are never a good thing;

 

https://www.nj.com/giants/2019/04/heres-the-strange-conversation-i-had-with-dawyne-haskins-father-before-he-hung-up-on-me.html

His dad seems incredibly protective.  There are worse things. And certainly Haskins comes off as having a good head on his shoulders when interviewed. The microscope these players are under gets more insane every year. Man, when I think about myself at 22? Now add millions of dollars, fame, social media, etc... I would have flamed out quick.

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I think the big concern is that from the article it makes it seem as though his Dad wants to control aspects of his career and that did not work well with a certain first round QB in Washington a few years ago and it was also an issue for the Giants with Eli Apple and his mom.  I am honestly cool on all of these prospects and would rather fill other spots on the roster but if we go QB I at least hope we get one by staying out or trading back, if we move up for these guys I am going to start throwing stuff.

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6 hours ago, skinsfan93 said:

 

One thing to remember is that every year QB’s end up being a hot commodity at draft time. Look at a guy like Trubisky. He went from a borderline first rounder to the #2 pick. Teams are desperate for a franchise qb and will do what it takes to get one. Redskins are no different. 

 

I guess. Trubisky is a great example. But still, I've heard no rumblings of anyone wanting to trade up for Haskins. In fact, it's gone the opposite way where all the rumblings are about Haskins falling. And I've seen no suggestion that Haskins would go any earlier than #6 to NY. And even that is pretty suspect. So I really don't get the idea that any team should pay a king's random to trade up to #3. It's like going to an auction and bidding a million dollars on an item everyone else is bidding in the thousands on. Just seems crazy.

 

And you're right, teams can go crazy for QBs. While teams are desperate for a franchise QB, it's usually the bad teams that go crazy. Tom Brady was a 6th round pick. San Diego got Brees at #32 after trading out of #1 and getting Tomlinson. Ben Roethlisberger slid all the way to #11 despite widely being consider a top 7 player  in his draft (and almost universally better like than Rivers). Rodgers slid all the way to #24. And yet teams fought over trading up to get the likes of Mark Sanchez, Ryan Leaf, and Paxton Lynch. I really hope this team doesn't make a dumb move (again), but it seems inevitable

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I'm more in favor of Rosen than Haskins simply because of what it would cost. I had my hopes on an edge rusher coming from the first especially with Foster not being suspended and our ILB being addressed already through that. I wouldn't mind a Derwin or Sweat but there are some good options to make us a feared defense this year in the first. After that we can address WR, OL, and QB with our 2nd day picks. That's either Rosen or Grier for me. 

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I don't know what the Skins are going to do, but I'm sure what ever they do it will be wrong. 

 

Personally trading up would be the worse move. If a QB falls to the Skins or we have a chance to get Rosen that's the route I would go. This team isn't a rookie QB away from winning the Superbowl. I'm sure the Skins will have a chance to draft another QB next year.

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All I know is that when Snyder is involved it usually results in the wrong move. Something in my gut tells me that Snyder really wants Haskins. We all know how much he loved RG and how lukewarm he was about Cousins. 

 

The other issue is that if Snyder backs off I don’t trust Bruce on his decision making and who knows if Doug is any good as a talent evaluator. Like some have said I hope we just get Rosen. He wouldn’t cost much and we could still get a Metcalf in the first round. Let him start for the entire year especially considering Colt had to get another surgery on his leg. If he isn’t the answer then we can go after qb next year.  

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How bad is our training staff?  Not only do we suffer massive injuries every season, but both our QBs have now had 2nd surgeries due to not healing well enough.

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Redskins tried to rush Colt McCoy back and it delayed the recovery process and made things worse. This front office is a disgrace 

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The thread title reads like we would be lucky to have a starting QB at all in 2019, and, to be honest, things seem to be heading that way.

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5 hours ago, Peregrine said:

How bad is our training staff?  Not only do we suffer massive injuries every season, but both our QBs have now had 2nd surgeries due to not healing well enough.

I would definitely say it's very concerning... All of the injuries each year players having to have consecutive surgeries DeSean Jackson's freak accident on the sideline at training camp Jordan Reed always injured.. I mean the list goes on but yeah it's definitely concerning

Son of a ****... Not only do I now see the chances of the Skins drafting a QB in the first round but now I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull a 2012 thing.

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9 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Redskins tried to rush Colt McCoy back and it delayed the recovery process and made things worse. This front office is a disgrace 

 

They did, but this third procedure was very minor in context

22 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said:

Colt was going to get the boot for the 3.5 mil savings anyways.

 

2mil is fully guaranteed 

9 minutes ago, primetime441 said:

BOLD PREDICTION: We get Rosen for 3rd (2019) and 5th (2020). 

 

That would do me. If the Cards hold on too long, it may be less.

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I wouldn't mind the Rosen stuff, but I also wouldn't mind just about any young QB getting a shot at QB here next year. We have Woodrum on our roster right now so he's the guy I'm rooting for to come in and beat out Case. I doubt he even makes the roster but hopefully he can show Jay that he has "it". 

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Man. I dont even know what we’ll do at QB. Just so unpredictable. Id be happy with Dwayne Haskins at any price, since it’s not my money, and I’ll root for him to succeed here. I’ll be happy with josh Rosen too. I’d be happy with rolling with Keenum and seeing if he can do here what he did in Minnesota in 2017. 

 

Whatever gets us to the playoffs. 

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23 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Man. I dont even know what we’ll do at QB. Just so unpredictable.

 

That's exactly the way is should be.

I don't want my team's draft plans so obvious that even fans all over message boards know what's going to happen.

Because if that's true, then obviously every one of their competitors knows what the Redskins are going to do, as well.

And that's not good at all.

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9 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

Redskins tried to rush Colt McCoy back and it delayed the recovery process and made things worse. This front office is a disgrace 

 

What did the FO do to make Colt's injury recovery worse?..."Tried to rush him back" doesn't really answer that.

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30 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

What did the FO do to make Colt's injury recovery worse?..."Tried to rush him back" doesn't really answer that.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/colt-mccoy-not-redskins-otas-he-recovers-another-leg-procedure-source

 

I mean, it's all in here essentially. People come up with different conclusions after they've connected the dots, but what I get from this is that he was rushed back and it was the reason why he had this recent procedure. It's bush league to do that in hopes of fighting for a playoff spot at 6-7. 

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9 minutes ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/colt-mccoy-not-redskins-otas-he-recovers-another-leg-procedure-source

 

I mean, it's all in here essentially. People come up with different conclusions after they've connected the dots, but what I get from this is that he was rushed back and it was the reason why he had this recent procedure. It's bush league to do that in hopes of fighting for a playoff spot at 6-7. 

 

Yeah, rushing Colt back at the end of last season was not a smart move, even without delaying the recovery (I had not read that article until now). I don't think this recent procedure is due to rushing him back, though, especially since the article says he could be back next week.

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4 minutes ago, Califan007 said:

 

Yeah, rushing Colt back at the end of last season was not a smart move, even without delaying the recovery (I had not read that article until now). I don't think this recent procedure is due to rushing him back, though, especially since the article says he could be back next week.

 

I understand where you were coming from simply because even twitter news is just hearsay unless it's a direct quote. What Gruden said in that article is actually what ticked me off as a fan because it just seems like past mistakes (RG lll nightmare) are never corrected. Even if he is back by next week, the fact that they even thought that was a good idea is scary. 

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Skins taking Jones is my nightmare, so look for it to happen.

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