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8 minutes ago, Spearfeather said:

 

I'm thinking Tropicana.

Actually I am going to Harrahs for a birthday dinner. I am not a huge gambler. Maybe play a few slots. 

 

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Want to point out one thing... in the Gruden era the Redskins have actually been quite good at beating middling to lesser teams. Not sure where this “we always lose when we should win thing” comes from..... that was a Norv thing and happened a couple of times in Gibbs II as well, but really hasn’t been a recent problem at all. Of course you will find exceptions and examples but no team has a 100% rate in games they “should” win. 

 

And while the 2016 finale was a VERY bad loss and I consider it a black mark for both Jay and Kirk, the Giants did NOT tank that game. They didn’t have anything to play for but they DID play most of their guys including their QB. And teams typically don’t take the field and not try. Meaning the 2016 Giants were a playoff team; I guess a lot of people expected them to come out and just let us win but I didn’t. Sometimes the “no motivation” actually helps you relax... sort of how like we destroyed Dallas in the 2015 finale even though we had nothing on the line. That “let er rip” mentality can actually help a team. 

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2 minutes ago, kleese said:

Want to point out one thing... in the Gruden era the Redskins have actually been quite good at beating middling to lesser teams. Not sure where this “we always lose when we should win thing” comes from..... that was a Norv thing and happened a couple of times in Gibbs II as well, but really hasn’t been a recent problem at all. Of course you will find exceptions and examples but no team has a 100% rate in games they “should” win. 

 

 

I don't know if I agree with that... We have a tendency to play down to an opponent, and when we need a game the most, come out flat.  We had a good run in 2015 to win the Division, but outside of that and one other 4 gamer in 2016, we rarely win back to back, let alone string together a few in a row.  We also have played a few clunkers of games we 'should' have dominated.  NYG, Arizona, Detroit, Cincy and Carolina were all games we "SHOULD" have won in 16.  

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9 minutes ago, OVCChairman said:

 

 

I don't know if I agree with that... We have a tendency to play down to an opponent, and when we need a game the most, come out flat.  We had a good run in 2015 to win the Division, but outside of that and one other 4 gamer in 2016, we rarely win back to back, let alone string together a few in a row.  We also have played a few clunkers of games we 'should' have dominated.  NYG, Arizona, Detroit, Cincy and Carolina were all games we "SHOULD" have won in 16.  

Agree, and I would also put the Dallas game at FedEx in 2015 as a Norv-like one.  And I know that we had long been knocked out of the playoffs last season, but losing to the 2-13 Giants in the finale was just embarrassing.

 

I'm not looking for even a dominating win tomorrow like the Eagles had when they went up there a few weeks ago.  I just want the Redskins to have more points on the scoreboard than the Giants when the clock reaches 0:00 at the end of the 4th quarter. 

 

Kleese is still scarred from all those god-awful games against the Cardinals in the 90s (and 2000!)

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10 minutes ago, OVCChairman said:

 

 

I don't know if I agree with that... We have a tendency to play down to an opponent, and when we need a game the most, come out flat.  We had a good run in 2015 to win the Division, but outside of that and one other 4 gamer in 2016, we rarely win back to back, let alone string together a few in a row.  We also have played a few clunkers of games we 'should' have dominated.  NYG, Arizona, Detroit, Cincy and Carolina were all games we "SHOULD" have won in 16.  

 

We did beat Cleveland, Minnesota , Philly twice, and Chicago.

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2 minutes ago, Spearfeather said:

 

We did beat Cleveland, Minnesota , Philly twice, and Chicago.

 

 

So thats 9 games we SHOULD have won... and won 4 of them?  

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Just now, Rex Tomb said:

Or clearly not an Italian at any rate.

"Gravy" is a Jersey thing.

 

Pasta clearly comes before the word sauce.

 

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1 minute ago, OVCChairman said:

 

 

So thats 9 games we SHOULD have won... and won 4 of them?  

 

You mean five ?

 

Was Baltimore a game we should have won ?

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1 minute ago, Spearfeather said:

 

You mean five ?

 

Was Baltimore a game we should have won ?

 

 

Yes sorry 5.. but winning 5 out of 10 favorable matchups is terrible.  

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You people are too nice to this guy. This is why the opposition has so many fans in our stadium. 

 

And you expect me to believe there's such a thing as a nice Giants fan? NYers are arrogant. They know it's a winnable game.

 

Troll.

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You put

 

Cleveland 

Minnesota 

Philly

Philly

Chicago

 

 

I'm no longer in front of a computer to check their numbers, but if you want to lump balt in there too, fine... winning 6 out of 11 favorable matchups is still not acceptable. 

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5 minutes ago, OVCChairman said:

You put

 

Cleveland 

Minnesota 

Philly

Philly

Chicago

 

 

I'm no longer in front of a computer to check their numbers, but if you want to lump balt in there too, fine... winning 6 out of 11 favorable matchups is still not acceptable. 

 

I guess we would have to agree first on how many were favorable matchups.

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Just now, hail2skins said:

C'mon KB......Tom (Giants fan) has always been respectful in these parts. 

C'mon man. Yeah Tom is great, but you want more giant fans around here? Cause that's how you get giant fans.

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4 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

"Sauce and pasta?" You're a troll. 

What's wrong with sauce and pasta?

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1 hour ago, Koolblue13 said:

C'mon man. Yeah Tom is great, but you want more giant fans around here? Cause that's how you get giant fans.

 

I thought you got them by leaving food out on the counter?...

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2 hours ago, OVCChairman said:

You put

 

Cleveland 

Minnesota 

Philly

Philly

Chicago

 

 

I'm no longer in front of a computer to check their numbers, but if you want to lump balt in there too, fine... winning 6 out of 11 favorable matchups is still not acceptable. 

6 out of 11 would be a 6-5 record. One game over .500. We should be happy it’s not a losing record :P 

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This game looks like it should be an easy win for the Redskins.  The Giants sent a clear message that they are not trying to win this season when they traded away two starters this week.  However, I was shocked to see that Vegas opened the game as a toss up.  I think the Skins are a one point favorite currently.  As bad as the Giants have been, it only takes a couple big plays to force the Redskins to have to score TDs... and the Giants have some players that can score from anywhere on the field.  I don't think the Skins can stack the box as much as they did against Dallas, mostly because of OBJ.  I expect the Skins to win this one, but they need to start strong and play with a lead.  It would also help if Norman triggers an OBJ meltdown.

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6 hours ago, OVCChairman said:

 

 

I don't know if I agree with that... We have a tendency to play down to an opponent, and when we need a game the most, come out flat.  We had a good run in 2015 to win the Division, but outside of that and one other 4 gamer in 2016, we rarely win back to back, let alone string together a few in a row.  We also have played a few clunkers of games we 'should' have dominated.  NYG, Arizona, Detroit, Cincy and Carolina were all games we "SHOULD" have won in 16.  

 

If we win those games, we are 13-3 that year. You really think that’s what we “should” have been? 

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Ed, I think you could probably categorize the way 2016 unfolded as a Norv-like year, probably similar to Norv's 1997. 13-3 was probably unrealistic, but I do think we could've been 11-5. 

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 I know absolutely nothing about twitter, but why does this sound like it was taken from ' Reverse Psychology 101 ' ?

 

 This is the mentality that I HOPE the Redskins don't have!

 This is the exact reason why my prediction thread says 'Meltdown in Met Life Stadium', because of some people saying the Giants have given up, they're already on vacation, they're tanking, they're having a fire sale, their dog died and their wife left with the only Cowboys fan in NY.

 

Sorry, I know the difference between **** and wild honey, and I don't like the aroma of this game one bit. What worries me the most is the Redskins even getting the slightest hint of the faintest whiff of the Giants not caring about the game and them walking into Met Life stadium and getting abused, because Redskin fans have seen this song-n-dance numerous times before, and Gruden will have no idea on what to do until the game is out of control.

 

This game, like every other game, should be treated like a playoff game, because the moment the Redskins get comfortable, they will relax and get taken behind the woodshed. Bank on it.

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