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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.
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I'm tired of Charley Casserly's criticism

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I think he unfairly criticizes players on the Redskins.  He most recently said Josh Norman is the third best corner on the team.  He is very critical of D.J. Swearinger.  And when D.J. balls out, like he usually does.  Casserly keeps his mouth shut.  And according to him, Dunbar has been "solid."  For what Dunbar has been asked to do, I feel like he's been more than just adequate.  And it's not just the one's I've mentioned, he's criticized other players too.  He needs to eat crow.

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I mean, we do traditionally suck but to your point, Charlie seems kind of annoying.

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Charlie Casserly gives literally no depth to anything he says. I think I heard recently a video segment that he did on who on the team was playing well and it was the most useless analysis I've ever heard.

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Wait. One of the things you’re mad about is casserly calling one of our CBs solid? Sounds like a compliment ? there are plenty things to get mad at him about. That isn’t one of them ??‍♂️

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3 minutes ago, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Wait. One of the things you’re mad about is casserly calling one of our CBs solid? Sounds like a compliment ? there are plenty things to get mad at him about. That isn’t one of them ??‍♂️



 

I'm upset because he's shortchanging him.

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5 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

 

I'm upset because he's shortchanging him.

Doesn’t solid mean good though? Which he has been. That’s not an insult or anything bad. 

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We all know his assessment of players' talents leaves falls somewhat short of the mark. We didn't need him to open his mouth to know that, though.

 

Still, no point getting mad. He's just doing what he's getting paid for.

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IMHO, he was catering to the crew of complainers that host 1067TheFan. That's how that show is designed to make money. 

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Josh Norman's reputation FAR outweighs his production.

Does anyone really think otherwise? He came to us with the rep of being one of,, if not THE best corner in the game. Do you see that? He collected a huge payday.  Have you seen a return on that investment like expected?

did anyone hear last week when in the pregame talk-up Charles Davis said Qbs were AFRAID to throw at him?

This is Davis who comes here and reads the press points and thinks they are accurate, and Norman's reputation says 'best corner".
Have you EVER seen a game in which a QB could be said to be afraid to throw at him?

He never fails to bite on a double move. he hasn't got very good make up speed... he goes for strips rather than tackles.

I won't rank him against our other corners, but he certainly is not what his rep says he is.

Interceptions? They don't exist. PDs barely happen. Passes get completed, though. Sometimes when a guy with a big rep has no picks or PDs it IS because Qbs avoid them. Not Josh. They don't avoid him. 

 

I guess some folks would rather be told everything is sugar plums,, even though you watch him trailing a WR with the ball too often for his supposed shut down status. If they traded him for a decent parcel of picks, i wouldn't mind. Cash in on that overblown rep.

 

~Bang

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47 minutes ago, Bang said:

Josh Norman's reputation FAR outweighs his production.

Does anyone really think otherwise?

 

I said this after his first season here and got ripped for it.  I pointed out that his play doesn't match his salary or all his on the field antics. If you and OBJ will take away from the game, every game they meet, with the same old side show act you better be a great player. Instead we have to watch all his antics and he just isn't that good.  

 

Now we have Charlie Casserly whose draft record is on par with Vinny Cerrato and he is the "expert analyst"  

 

 

Sincerely, 

 

Grumpy Old Man. 

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10 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

Now we have Charlie Casserly whose draft record is on par with Vinny Cerrato and he is the "expert analyst"  

 

 

Sincerely, 

 

Grumpy Old Man. 

 

Cerrato's might be actually better, draft wise.  Casserly missed on more #1's from what I recall than Cerrato. 

 

Yeah Casserly doesn't think much of our safeties, he's been on that for while.  He thinks both Swearinger and Nicholson are overrated - inconsistent, vulnerable to the pass.  He thinks its the achilles heel of the team.

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I think Norman’s play falls somewhere between what we paid him and our fans’ perception. He hasn’t played up to the paycheck but he’s better than most give him credit for. He’s not a shutdown guy. But he brings a lot to the table as a tackler, forces fubles and is around the ball and his leadership and worth ethic and the attitude he brings to the defense are all very welcome attributes. I get people’s concern with salary cap that drives this “need”to feel like players must play to their salary. That rarely ever happens. That’s not an excuse as much as it is me saying stop thinking only in terms of salary and just be happy we have Norman because he is a very good player and a valuable piece to our secondary. 

 

We have guys who’s whole job is to balance the cap. That’s why coaching and front office is so important in terms of scouting and developing young talent like Dunbar to play on cheaper contracts to balance it out. Norman has been a helpful piece and we need him right now but I think we all know he likely won’t finish his contract but definitely won’t be seeing a second rich one. I wish he was picking off passes left and right or shutting guys out but right now the defense is healthy and playing well and is one of the better pass defenses in the league. Hobbled or not, outside of one miscommunication leading to a long TD we held Rodgers to about 50 yards in the first half.  We held Bradford to a career low in passing yards in the first half. Indy had a solid game plan to scheme Hilton open underneath but we didn’t let anything over our heads that I remember. We aren’t perfect but I think too many guys feel we should be in order to deserve any credit at all. I think it’s healthy for our fans to have a bye week and watch other games to see that these other successful teams are not perfect either. 

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Had to go back a ways, but this is the third one^

 

 

Also FWIW, Casserly is now a National guy...soooo 

 

 

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for the record, i always always always have a difficult time with guys in their 70s using hairpieces and dyes to try to look like they're 35.

You can't even face your own hair, and i am supposed to take your word for anything?

 

~Bang

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It’s mind boggling to me that he is still relevant and has spots on NFLN.

 

That said, most of the time I see him talking Skins, he’s saying nice things.

Saying Norman is playing like the 3rd best corner isn’t a great stretch.

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I kind of like Charlie. And he seems not the only one taking shots at Norman.  With high salary comes expectations, weekly.

 

But good for him, he has forged out a fine career in broadcasting. Not unlike the unheralded Mark May, among others.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Saying Norman is playing like the 3rd best corner isn’t a great stretch.

That could also means that our 1st and second best are freaking good.

 

Normal can't really lived to his status so far but he's not crappy at all. I've seen worst corners throughout the league. Even on this team.

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1 hour ago, moondog said:

I think Norman’s play falls somewhere between what we paid him and our fans’ perception. He hasn’t played up to the paycheck but he’s better than most give him credit for. He’s not a shutdown guy. But he brings a lot to the table as a tackler

Bruh ... we must be watching 2 different Josh Norman's.  The one I see is one of the worst tacklers on the team who lunges at guys or tries to punch the ball out and misses, rather than wrapping up to get the guy down.

 

I have no problem with Charlie.  I like listening to him and think he just tells it how it is.  This team is perennial mediocore/bad so it's not a stretch to hear people criticize people on the team.

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Just now, Wildbunny said:

That could also means that our 1st and second best are freaking good.

 

Normal can't really lived to his status so far but he's not crappy at all. I've seen worst corners throughout the league. Even on this team.

 

Hes not one of the worst - no, but he really hasn’t done much of anything here.

 

I love Josh’s story of how he got to the league and he was so nice and genuine when I met him with my family.  Made my wife want to buy his jersey and did.

 

But I’d be lying if I said he appears to be worth even half what he’s been making.  He’s been on the other end of big plays and not making enough of them, really any since 2016. 

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I've always thought he's been overly positive about the redskins.  I guess with your sample size, he seems to be not as positive with the secondary.  However, as a whole he's been overly positive.

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The thing about Norman is, when you pluck a solid player out of a great system, it is hard for them to replicate their success on a new team if the overall defense is lesser.  Carolina had a monster defense when Norman played there.  Carolina's front office took the bet that they'd rather replace one piece, even if that piece was solid rather than pay someone so much that it could lead to the break up of the defense.

 

I haven't been following Fuller too much on the Chiefs, but their defense overall is pretty bad.  Fuller was a rising star on this team as a slot corner.  How is he doing in KC? 

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I’m a little confused by the Norman bashing.... I watch all the games like most people here and I guess I’m just not seeing what others are seeing. I’d agree he isn’t a “shut down” corner in the mold of Deion in his prime or even a guy like Jalen Ramsey now—- but he doesn’t give up much either and QBs DO NOT Challenge him often. Most games I see very few instances of him being targeted in one on one coverage. As a matter of fact, in three games this year I can only really recall two plays where I feel he got flat beat... one was a crossing route by Hilton against Indy where he trailed and didn’t get there. The other one was on a play where Rodgers scrambled and threw a dart on the money to a sliding WR for a first down— Norman was the corner in coverage. I think he’s still performing at a pro bowl level. You see how badly so many CBs are getting torched this year? I still think Norman is upper echelon. 

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Add that missed tackle in the endzone for a safety against the Colts.

He did read the play. Reacted to it accordingly. Got into position for the safety.

 

 

 

 

 

And he fizzle on it...

Unforgivable.

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