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27 minutes ago, volsmet said:

After watching the sr bowl I’ve gained massive respect for one man in particular. 

 

 

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*First impression, best player on the field, Dalton Risner.

 

 

 

Risner looked good, ditto my guy Lindstrom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think my biggest takeaways this week.  Yes to Deebo Samuel in the 2nd among other prospects I like.  No Daniel Jones.  If they don't go O line in the first, love Lindstrom if he's there in the 2nd.  I don't think Risner will be there because most think he can play RT whereas Lindstrom is OG.

 

https://nypost.com/2019/01/22/possible-giants-pick-came-up-in-the-shadow-of-mannings/

Jones played it straight down the middle when asked if he is more like Peyton or Eli, saying, “I’m probably different from both of them in ways and more similar to them in other ways.’’ The way he described himself, though, sounded more Eli than Peyton.

“I’ve never been a real rah-rah guy, someone who will take that approach to it,’’ Jones said. “That makes me more of a lead-by-example guy. But I try to come from a place of service and humility and prove to your teammates that you are willing to do what needs to be done for them first and put them first.’’

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14 hours ago, Anselmheifer said:

Assuming Reuben Foster doesn't ever suit up and make an impact for us, would an impact CB, FS, ILB, or pass rusher make the biggest impact on the performance of our defense? I keep thinking the 2019 draft is going to be one of those drafts where we pass over a potentially elite defensive player, to select an inferior offensive player that fills a need. There is just so much more defensive talent at the top of the draft. 

 

Has to be corner or edge rusher.  With the exception of dominant A and B gap rushers, having a dominant player at the outside positions really dwarfs the impact that you can get from positions in the middle of the field. 

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20 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

Has to be corner or edge rusher.  With the exception of dominant A and B gap rushers, having a dominant player at the outside positions really dwarfs the impact that you can get from positions in the middle of the field. 

A true ball hawking FS can also change a whole defense. I think Earl Thomas easily has the impact of a Von Miller. Overall though, I agree. 

 

On that note, Byron Murphy has been projecting in the mid 20's in every mock I've seen. He would be a steal there. Also, there look to be some good values in the secondary a little bit later. I would love a move back for Byron Murphy. 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013599/article/daniel-jones-ryan-finley-among-five-stars-from-senior-bowl

 

"Talking a big game: Kentucky CB Lonnie Johnson Jr. doesn't lack for confidence.

After an impressive practice week, Johnson made four tackles in the game Saturday and afterward, said he's come away from the Senior Bowl with a conviction that he's the best cornerback in the 2019 draft.

"I feel like I'm the best corner in the draft. That's what it is. I can tackle, I can cover, and some guys at my position don't even want to tackle," Johnson said. "I stood out. I'm 6-3, I'm 210 pounds, and I'm going to run 4.4 at the combine, so y'all can take it from there." "

 

Nasir Adderly also picked off a pass in the Senior Bowl. I think he's going to run well and climb in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go in the second. I think he's a great value in the 3rd/4th. 

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Was listening to Sheehan's podcast. His gut is the Redskins trade up to the Raiders pick for their 2019 and 2020 first and 2019 2nd for Haskins.

 

If they believe in Haskins in a big way, I would be OK with that. Though am doubting Haskins drops to 4, I think you got to trade to a higher spot.

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31 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Was listening to Sheehan's podcast. His gut is the Redskins trade up to the Raiders pick for their 2019 and 2020 first and 2019 2nd for Haskins.

 

If they believe in Haskins in a big way, I would be OK with that. Though am doubting Haskins drops to 4, I think you got to trade to a higher spot.

 

Hopefully that's something he ate. I'm not drinking that Kool-Aid...there's a turd in the punch bowl.

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10 hours ago, Jericho said:

 

 

That's a lot of work, so kudos on that. But I'll point out you are projecting 10 QBs to be picked in the top 4 rounds. And I had to go all the way back to 1995 to find a draft with that many QBs picked in the top 4 rounds. A few came close, but most came no where near that total. i maintain that people are, in general, vastly inflating and overrating the draft value of most of these QBs. This isn't that great of a QB class. And it's certainly not the best in the last 20+ years. Odds are that only one of these guys becomes a bona fide NFL starter. And odds are heavy that guy is Haskins. Murray is the wild card. Everyone else is just a long shot. I really hope the Skins don't draft a QB in round one unless his name is Haskins or Murray. Even then it could easily not work out, but at least there's decent value. Everyone else is such a reach. If this team picks Daniel jones in Round 1, I'm out. That's a multi-year gaffe that'll take years to come back from.

Like I said these are MY grades for THIS team. We MUST take a QB this year. I dont care what round it is in or which one it is. But we have to add a rookie passer to this roster. And you are going to have to reach if you want one of the top 4 guys IMO. If the Skins think their guy is Jones than take Jones. Just dont trade up for him. And I completely disagree with your take that only one of these guys will be a starter in the NFL. I think 4 of them have a chance to be long term starters in this league. Maybe not franchise guys. But middle of the road starters like Dalton, Cousins or Prescott.

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5 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Was listening to Sheehan's podcast. His gut is the Redskins trade up to the Raiders pick for their 2019 and 2020 first and 2019 2nd for Haskins.

 

If they believe in Haskins in a big way, I would be OK with that. Though am doubting Haskins drops to 4, I think you got to trade to a higher spot.

 

Tone of these claims? Sheehan likes to be condescending at every opportunity to rile up others. informed? Guess? 

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10 hours ago, skinny21 said:

 

, per @Jericho‘s point, I’d probably bump your 6th qb and on down a round.  Did you get a chance to focus on McSorley?  I’d be curious to read your take on him.  I think he’s be a nice developmental qb to take over McCoy’s (natural) spot as our backup.  Wouldn’t cost much to get him and he wouldn’t be confused for our long term starter.  

 

I watched every single game Mcsorley played in college. I am a PSU fan. I wouldnt reach for him at all. I love his athleticism. But his accuracy is just bad. I wouldnt mind him as a developmental guy though. Either in the 7th or a UDFA. I think there is a very good chance he doesnt get drafted at all in all honesty. There are a couple of other developmental guys I like a lot more that didnt make my top ten. Clayton Thorson intrigues me. The guy showed moxie leading Northwestern to the big 10 championship game. I also like Kyle Shurmer out of Vanderbilt quite a bit as a developmental guy.

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8 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Like I said these are MY grades for THIS team. We MUST take a QB this year. I dont care what round it is in or which one it is. But we have to add a rookie passer to this roster. And you are going to have to reach if you want one of the top 4 guys IMO. If the Skins think their guy is Jones than take Jones. Just dont trade up for him. And I completely disagree with your take that only one of these guys will be a starter in the NFL. I think 4 of them have a chance to be long term starters in this league. Maybe not franchise guys. But middle of the road starters like Dalton, Cousins or Prescott.

 

 

I agree don't trade up for Jones, heck I'd hate it enough if he fell to their pick at #15 and took him let alone trade up for him.  But using the Eagles as an example if they fell in love with a QB like the Eagles did with Wentz and want to shoot for the fences then go for it.  After the perceived top 2 QBs in the draft, the crap shoot odds are ramped up according to one study I looked it as for the last 10 years.  For every Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott there are 6 Hackenbergs and Paxton Lynchs. 

 

As for Haskins, in theory I am opposed to trading up.  But if people in that building have total conviction in the dude, I'd good for it within reason.   If they are somewhat convinced but have doubts, I wouldn't do it. 

 

 The ranking of the QBs below is from football outsiders from 2014 and that was pre Cousins emerging.   I didn't include the 2nd round even though they are mostly busts because its a small sample size compared to other rounds.

 

I think Elway said it well recently when was asked hey you haven't found that franchise QB yet -- he goes something like, yep but i am going to keep swinging until I get him.  

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?type=position

 

FILTER      QB     RB     WR     TE     OL     DL     LB     CB     S     SPECIALISTS       
2018 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Baker Mayfield QB Oklahoma Cleveland Browns
1 3 Sam Darnold QB USC New York Jets
1 7 Josh Allen QB Wyoming Buffalo Bills
1 10 Josh Rosen QB UCLA Arizona Cardinals
1 32 Lamar Jackson QB Louisville Baltimore Ravens
3 76 Mason Rudolph QB Oklahoma State Pittsburgh Steelers
4 108 Kyle Lauletta QB Richmond New York Giants
5 171 Mike White QB Western Kentucky Dallas Cowboys
6 199 Luke Falk QB Washington State Tennessee Titans
6 203 Tanner Lee QB Nebraska Jacksonville Jaguars
7 219 Danny Etling QB LSU New England Patriots
7 220 Alex McGough QB Florida International Seattle Seahawks
7 249 Logan Woodside QB Toledo Cincinnati Bengals
2017 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 2 Mitchell Trubisky QB North Carolina Chicago Bears
1 10 Patrick Mahomes QB Texas Tech Kansas City Chiefs
1 12 Deshaun Watson QB Clemson Houston Texans
2 52 DeShone Kizer QB Notre Dame Cleveland Browns
3 87 Davis Webb QB California New York Giants
3 104 C.J. Beathard QB Iowa San Francisco 49ers
4 135 Joshua Dobbs QB Tennessee Pittsburgh Steelers
5 171 Nathan Peterman QB Pittsburgh Buffalo Bills
6 215 Brad Kaaya QB Miami (Fla.) Detroit Lions
7 253 Chad Kelly QB Mississippi Denver Broncos
2016 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Jared Goff QB California Los Angeles Rams
1 2 Carson Wentz QB North Dakota State Philadelphia Eagles
1 26 Paxton Lynch QB Memphis Denver Broncos
2 51 Christian Hackenberg QB Penn State New York Jets
3 91 Jacoby Brissett QB North Carolina State New England Patriots
3 93 Cody Kessler QB USC Cleveland Browns
4 100 Connor Cook QB Michigan State Oakland Raiders
4 135 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State Dallas Cowboys
4 139 Cardale Jones QB Ohio State Buffalo Bills
5 162 Kevin Hogan QB Stanford Kansas City Chiefs
6 187 Nate Sudfeld QB Indiana Washington Redskins
6 191 Jake Rudock QB Michigan Detroit Lions
6 201 Brandon Allen QB Arkansas Jacksonville Jaguars
6 207 Jeff Driskel QB Louisiana Tech San Francisco 49ers
7 223 Brandon Doughty QB Western Kentucky Miami Dolphins
2015 - QB
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL TEAM
1 1 Jameis Winston QB Florida State Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1 2 Marcus Mariota QB Oregon Tennessee Titans
3 75 Garrett Grayson QB Colorado State New Orleans Saints
3 89 Sean Mannion QB Oregon State St. Louis Rams
4 103 Bryce Petty QB Baylor New York Jets
5 147 Brett Hundley QB UCLA Green Bay Packers
7 250 Trevor Siemian QB Northwestern Denver Broncos

 

 

 

 

 

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2014/nfl-draft-round-round-quarterback-data

 

 

 

 

Tiers In My Eyes: 28 Fourth-Round Quarterbacks
The Good The 2013 Rookies The Ugly The Fun
David Garrard Landry Jones Danny Kanell Rob Johnson
Kyle Orton Tyler Wilson Stefan LeFors Seneca Wallace
Aaron Brooks Ryan Nassib Pat Barnes Kirk Cousins
  Matt Barkley Rohan Davey Sage Rosenfels
  Stephen McGee  
Chad May
Luke McCown
Steve Stenstrom
Chris Weinke
Mike Kafka
Dave Barr
Danny Wuerffel
Jesse Palmer
Joe Germaine
Jeff Lewis
Doug Nussmeier
Perry Klein

 

 

 

Tiers In My Eyes: 24 Third-Round Quarterbacks
The Good The Lovie Situation The Backup The Ugly The "Why, Belichick?"
Russell Wilson Mike Glennon Chris Redman Andrew Walter Ryan Mallett
Matt Schaub Josh McCown   Dave Ragone Kevin O'Connell
Nick Foles   Charlie Whitehurst  
Brian Griese Jonathan Quinn
  Brock Huard
Trent Edwards
Chris Simms
Charlie Frye
Brodie Croyle
Stoney Case
Bobby Hoying
Eric Zeier
Colt McCoy
David Greene
Giovanni Carmazzi

 

 

 

Tiers In My Eyes: 49 First-Round Quarterbacks
The Good The Undecided The Mediocre The Ugly The Winning Ugly
Peyton Manning Sam Bradford Byron Leftiwch Josh Freeman Trent Dilfer
Aaron Rodgers Ryan Tannehill Kerry Collins Matt Leinart Vince Young
Ben Roethlisberger Jake Locker Jason Campbell Patrick Ramsey Tim Tebow
Philip Rivers EJ Manuel   Joey Harrington Mark Sanchez
Matt Ryan   Christian Ponder Rex Grossman
Andrew Luck Cade McNown  
Eli Manning Tim Couch
Steve McNair Kyle Boller
Chad Pennington David Carr
Matthew Stafford Brandon Weeden
Donovan McNabb J.P. Losman
Carson Palmer Brady Quinn
Daunte Culpepper Heath Shuler
Cam Newton Blaine Gabbert
Robert Griffin Akili Smith
Joe Flacco Jim Druckenmiller
Jay Cutler JaMarcus Russell
Michael Vick Ryan Leaf
Alex Smith  
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Great post @Skinsinparadise. And I agree with you and Elway. At this point I am ready to draft a QB every single year until we find a viable starter that doesnt want to be the highest paid player in NFL history. There is something to be said about having a QB on a rookie deal. Gives you cap flexibility to build a team around him. 

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40 minutes ago, wit33 said:

 

Tone of these claims? Sheehan likes to be condescending at every opportunity and re people up. informed? Guess? 

 

Sheehan's positions can be annoying if you are on the other side of him on positions because he comes off hard core and sarcastic on those fronts -- in your case from what I recall of your positions -- he likely drives you crazy considering your positions on Kirk, Alex, Bruce.

 

For me, I share his views on all of those three subjects.  But I can relate because he used to annoy me about Shanny, he was sold on him right through today.  I soured on Shanny at the end.    I used to send him emails about Shanny which were positive that he'd read on air.  But then when I turned on Shanny he didn't read anything I sent him. 😀  I also disagree with him on Jay where he is much more sour on him than I feel.

 

The dude though is on a bit of a roll gossip wise.  He nailed the story that Bruce is coming back and that he'd speak soon among other things.  I didn't sense his thought about the Redskins trading up was based purely on gossip and it was more of a gut feeling.  But he and a bunch of reporters have hinted hard there are two schools of thoughts behind the scenes at Redskins Park which seem to be:

 

Camp 1

A. Big move early at QB

Camp 2

B. Later round move at QB but still fairly early 2nd-3rd round

 

Sheehan wasn't being sarcastic.  I think he was just echoing the vibe of them shooting for a QB.   This is a tough one for me because in theory I do believe in aiming high for a top QB versus hoping to get lucky and finding the next Kirk, Dak or whomever in the later rounds.  I think its a crap shoot either way but its a much harder to land on a QB later in the draft versus earlier.  Plus if you get a QB later in the draft you don't have that 5th year to milk the contract than you do in for first rounders.    However, I don't like giving up draft capital so if I am trading up, I'd better have everyone in that building totally sold on it in a big way versus lets say Dan thinking about how cool the buzz would be to make a move like this.

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This would be a bit unconventional. I agree EDGE is a difference maker across the board, but a Risner anchored LG spot or C makes our OL elite when healthy. Hockensen, Reed and Guice/Thompson/AP make our offense through run and PA interesting at least. Throw in a rookie with Colt and JJ and see what you can get. Would kind of be hyped for this draft. 

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2 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

This would be a bit unconventional. I agree EDGE is a difference maker across the board, but a Risner anchored LG spot or C makes our OL elite when healthy. Hockensen, Reed and Guice/Thompson/AP make our offense through run and PA interesting at least. Throw in a rookie with Colt and JJ and see what you can get. Would kind of be hyped for this draft. 

 

Wit33 asked me days back if I was going win now, what would I do.  I said Hockenson in the first and Lindstrom in the 2nd (don't think Risner falls that far).  So your draft is along those lines.  Run the heck out of the ball with Guice-Peterson and a stacked O line and with a monster blocking TE.

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I was just listening to Hoffman who was around the scouts at the senior bowl talk about this subject.

 

He says its still early so thinking on this can change.  But his sense is that they'd trade up some to get their guy if they felt he was in range but wouldn't trade up big. 

 

He didn't say this part but its my presumption based on that point.  Haskins is out because you have to trade up big in all likelihood.  Murray then might be in play.  I've said this before which is living in South Florida its eerie how similar the Dolphins (sans the dysfunction soap opera following the Redskins) are to the Redskins as for where they are with fans in terms of being tired about being stuck in mediocrity and both being boring teams with no marquee stars.   

 

So many covering this team say that they think Dan needs to do something to spike sales.  Same being said here about the Dolphins.  My point is Murray I don't think gets past Miami in the draft so they'd need to leapfrog them.

 

Not sure what to think of Murray in the context of this team in part because I'd guess he was forced on Jay.  Love watching Murray play but can't see him as a traditional WCO style QB like Jay prefers.  With Murray, I think you got to go to a spread system, heavy RPO, RO, with him playing just about purely from the shot gun.    Jay modified his offense for Johnson later in the season and did some RPO with Alex -- but i don't think its his preferred offense.  

 

But if I am Dan, and its buzz i am craving.  And Murray is still there at #12, I'd be trading up.    As Hoffman joked about on their air, Murray would put Keim on Sports Center much more so then he is now -- Redskins would become talked about for a change and it will sell tickets.

 

I am ok with the whole thing going down but I agree that its a risk because of Murray's size, interest in baseball and fit to Jay's offensive scheme.

 

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I'm all for trading from no. 15 to no. 12 to get Murray. The price for that leap won't be too big, and doesn't really jeopardize the future.

 

As for as scheme fit in Jay's offense... it doesn't really matter. This is most likely his last year, as he won't finish better than 5-11, most likely.

 

Bruce and Dan then would probably bring in a coach who can best utilize Murray to his full potential.

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Aside from evaluating the QBs in this years draft, I wonder if the Redskins are also taking into consideration the possibility that some QBs currently on NFL rosters might become available depending on which team drafts a QB.  For example, the Raiders seem high on Lock after the Senior Bowl, so if they take him, maybe Derek Carr becomes available.  If Arizona makes a surprise move and takes Murray, maybe Josh Rosen becomes available.  Or maybe Murray goes to the Bengals and Andy Dalton gets put on the trading block.  Maybe Giants grab Haskins and is open to trading Lauletta who a few guys on here spoke highly of before last years draft.

 

Obviously, you'd have to take into account the salary cap stuff and how well he fits into Jay's system, but if we could find a good match and only spend a mid round pick in a trade, I think it would be well worth it.  That way, we can use our first 2 picks to get a stud at either a LG, TE, EDGE, or S.  A lot of new HCs want to bring in a QB of their choice, so I could see at least a couple of these scenarios playing out.

 

I feel like I'm giving them too much credit, but I just hope the FO is looking at the situation from every angle possible.  I'd much rather prefer a move that makes a lot of football sense instead of a splashy move for the sake of filling a few more seats next season.

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13 minutes ago, Rogue Jedi said:

I'm all for trading from no. 15 to no. 12 to get Murray. The price for that leap won't be too big, and doesn't really jeopardize the future.

 

As for as scheme fit in Jay's offense... it doesn't really matter. This is most likely his last year, as he won't finish better than 5-11, most likely.

 

Bruce and Dan then would probably bring in a coach who can best utilize Murray to his full potential.

 

So we're going to trade up in the 1st round for a rather polarizing QB who is likely not going to be utilized correctly by the current coach or fit into the current system, on the assumption that we'll eventually be able to bring in a coach who will be able to utilize this QB correctly and fit him into his system? That seems insanely risky.

 

There's no doubting Murray's pure talent and athleticism, but he worries me a lot. I'm guessing he's not even 5'10 based on seeing him stand next to other guys during games. He's way too prone to just tucking and running when pressured, as opposed to other mobile QBs who use their quickness and speed to extend a play and find a guy downfield...he just pulls the ball down and runs far too often, way more than RG3 did in college (though RG3 had more designed runs IIRC). IMO that's an injury waiting to happen. He also had two legit 1st round stud WRs to throw to in Marquis Brown this draft and CeeDee Lamb next draft (assuming he declares).

 

Another thing to remember is that Murray is also a one year wonder in college. Yes, he was behind Baker Mayfield and he had a few highlight plays before 2018, but doesn't change the fact that he only has one year of production and one year of game tape. Add in that nobody truly knows how committed he is to football, given the baseball situation, and my interest is pretty low. 

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Going from 15 to 12 likely costs at least a 3rd. If not both 3rds. 

 

I still think the best way to win with our current setup without getting a QB is to draft a stud LG in the 2nd. With Guice and whoever else we have behind a potentially dominant OL we just need to build the defense. We may not make the playoffs but we’d be building for the future. And even with “aging” tackles we’d be set on the interior for years to come. I’d even consider going OT in the 5th to add some more depth and just solidify the OL though I don’t think that’s necessary with what we’ve invested in OT with Geron Christian. 

 

Keep adding young pieces to the defense and solidify the OL and run game. I think many are overlooking the possibility of Guice behind a dominant OL long term and how that would take pressure off of QB. And if Smith can come back in 2020 you’re in a good spot whether you trust him or have a young QB from 2019 or 2020 in the wings. 

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23 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

 

I still think the best way to win with our current setup without getting a QB is to draft a stud LG in the 2nd. 

Or an OT/OG in the first, such as Jonah Williams, Cody Ford or Dalton risner. Any one of those guys could be our starting left guard on opening day and then take over left tackle when Trent Williams moves on.  

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5 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Was listening to Sheehan's podcast. His gut is the Redskins trade up to the Raiders pick for their 2019 and 2020 first and 2019 2nd for Haskins.

That would be such a Redskins thing to do. Mortgage the future so Bruce and jay can have one last hope to hang on to their jobs for another year or two.  For a quarterback who no one was talking about only 2 months ago.  Trading up for Kyler would be even more ridiculous.  

 

I don't see drafting a quarterback in 2019 as a must.  If a situation presents itself and you're getting good value no matter which round it is, then you do it.  If getting a quarterback means we have to mortgage the future or reach for a lesser player, then pass.  The Redskins do not have a shortage of holes to fill with their picks this year.  And it's not like we are a quarterback away from the promised Land.  2019 is going to be ugly with or without a rookie qb, so let's hopefully make some smart decisions for our long-term health instead of a splashy move so Bruce and Dan think they've given the fans something shiny to get excited about. 

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My take is i don't care if they win or not in 2020, if anything I'd prefer they go 3-13 than 7-9 because of how loaded the 2020 draft is looking and by that I am not just talking about QB.   I am more than cool with waiting for a QB in 2020 but doubt they are willing to wait. 

 

I got called out by one of the regulars from the draft thread last year when we drafted Guice as to how I must be beyond thrilled considering how much time I dedicated to him on the draft thread last year.  If I wasn't the President of the Guice fan club, I'd have to be at least top 2.  My point is I share the enthusiasm of what he will bring but hesitate a little bit from last year with him coming off an ACL.  Will see.  But love the dude.

 

I just think any talented team will be stopped in their tracks if they have a JAG at QB with a rare exception.  I can think of plenty of talented teams with good young players who still stink because they stink at QB.

 

As for this draft, I think Haskins is a franchise guy.  Murray is a franchise guy in the right offense -- though worry about his durability.  Lock is probably a franchise guy but not slam dunk.  At the moment, I am not sold at any other QB as being more than a marginal starter at best -- Case Keenum level.  Now I could be completely wrong -- Qbs are the hardest position to assess and I am obviously no expert.

 

Then, they are boxed into a situation where if they are trying to sell season tickets and hope.  What do they do?  As for whether they should care about it or not is a different discussion but people covering the team said its a concern in the FO from what they heard.  I just listened to Tarik talk about it coming from the Senior bowl saying talking to some people behind the scenes they know they need a player who brings some juice and electricity to wake up the fan base. 

 

To that point, I think they might make a move at QB.  Would a dude like Daniel Jones who is a boring player IMO and beyond a boring personality create that juice?  I don't think.  Ditto some flier in the 2nd-4th round.   I guess maybe they'd get some buzz over Rypien -- a guy who I don't think has the skills to be an above average starter. 

 

Was just listening to Sean Salisbury as I was typing this -- and the dude obviously know the QB position.  He thinks Haskins will be really good.   Seems unsure about some of the others.   He's in love with Kyler Murray -- accurate, quick release, strong arm.  He trained in a field next to him when Kyler was in high school so knows him a bit.  He thinks he's a winner.  He thinks Murray might have the better career over Haskins.  

 

If I am acting like the team isn't looking to add juice to the off season, and I'd just draft whomever I'd like for me its:

 

first round:

1.  Polite

2.  Hockenson

3.  Cody Ford

4.  M. Brown

5.  D. White

 

maybe DK Metcalf 

 

2nd round

1. Chris Lindstrom

2.  Irv Smith

3.  D. Samuel

4. Riley Ridley

 

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When this team impulse drafts it never works out well and that's probably true for most of the league, we can't afford to give away draft picks unless we're 99% sure the QB will be the answer. 

 

There too many other holes on the team and the following 2 drafts could have generational type QB's who would actually be worth sacrificing picks to obtain.

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5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Then, they are boxed into a situation where if they are trying to sell season tickets and hope.  What do they do?  As for whether they should care about it or not is a different discussion but people covering the team said its a concern in the FO from what they heard.  I just listened to Tarik talk about it coming from the Senior bowl saying talking to some people behind the scenes they know they need a player who brings some juice and electricity to wake up the fan base. 

And this is exactly why the Redskins have sucked during the Dan Snyder era.  I'm hoping our fanbase can send the message to him that splashy, short-sighted moves won't win us over, it will only make us more angry.  If he truly wants to win the fan base over, hire an experienced personnel guy with a long-term vision.  Crazy idea, I know.

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