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      ES Coverage: Giants vs Redskins 
       
      12/9/18
       
      DEFEAT!!!
       
      Giants 40 - Redskins 16
       
      Greetings friends, JimmiJo here, and I am joined by my shivering partner, Spaceman Spiff. Together we will bring you this all important NFC East divisional matchup between the Washington Redskins and New York Giants.
       
      When I was last with you the Redskins had command of the division and there was optimism to spare. Since, devastating injuries to quarterbacks, linemen, and cornerbacks has left this team losers in 4-of-5 contests.
       
      But there is still everything to play for, and if they can manage a victory today and the Eagles to the same Washington will once again have a share of the lead.
       
      I can dream can't I?
       
      On paper, the future looks grim. A continued collapse will start the questions about the future of personnel and perhaps leadership. Yes, we can certainly point to injuries as the primary reason the team is struggling. But the record earlier in the year was masking some issues with the squad. No real arial threat. An inconsistent running game. And a defense that has been anything but consistent.
       
      But these are questions for another time. Today, it is just two teams looking for a win.
       
      See you at the half.
       
      Follow along on Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 32 RB Samaje Perine
      o   No. 46 RB Kapri Bibbs
      o   No. 52 LB Ryan Anderson
      o   No. 63 C Demetrius Rhaney
      o   No. 66 G Tony Bergstrom
      o   No. 99 DL Caleb Brantley
       
      JimmiJo
       
      I was happy to see players like Josh Johnson and Byron Marshall in the game. The marquee guys did not earn the right to play following the disastrous first half. It was historically bad.
       
      Never before had the Washington Redskins trailed by as much as the 34-0 deficit they entertained today at the half.
       
      I remarked to one of the writers that in 13-seasons I had never seen this team so outplayed as today. The offense led by Mark Sanchez was throw-up in mouth bad. At no point did you feel like they would or could score.
       
      I tweeted before the game that it is time for Daniel Snyder to replaced head coach Jay Gruden. Yes injuries are the headline. But the offense was poor before the injuries.
       
      No aerial threat and an inconsistent rushing. They only seemed to score 20-points per game.
       
      What they did do well was hold on to the ball. And the defense was a takeover machine the first half of the year.
      But turnovers tend to even out.
       
      So I was more than glad to see those ‘backups’ play. All they did was show they should have been playing in the first half.
       
      Especially Johnson. Take a look at your Redskins’ starter the rest of the way. From his first snap the offense looked different. There was energy. There was life.
       
      And there was threat.
       
      Johnson played with more command, accuracy and imagination than Mark Sanchez. He looked much more the accomplished quarterback.
       
      A word on Josh Doctson. You are an idiot. Without the stupid penalty you are not letting the safety out-position you to make the pick with 5-minutes left.
       
      Following this game, staring at the standings and considering possible scenarios for getting in the playoffs is fools’ gold. It is all about assessing who it worth keeping for next year.
       
      I don’t believe head coach Jay Gruden is going to make the list. Nor should he. He has had nore than enough time to do something here. He had Kirk Cousins’ starting over 3-full seasons.
       
      He had his chance.
       
      I tweeted before the game team owner Daniel Snyder should let Gruden go and bring in Mike McCarthy. Washington Post writer (and friend) Rick Snider made a great counterpoint to that idea:
       
      “Why would McCarthy want to come here? He has better options,” he said.
       
      That sure feels like the truth. And if so, it may explain why Gruden is fast becoming one of the most tenured coaches in the league.
       
      This was my last game for this season. I would like to thank Extremeskins and the team for the opportunity this year. I will see you guys next year.
       
      Let me go on the record now and say I do not think Jay Gruden's position here is secure. Not with the likes of Mike McCarthy available.
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2018 Season Injury News

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Good morning All,

 

I know I'm a relative newbie here, and although the thought of this thread kinda makes me sick to my stomach, I think a single thread to post information about injury status updates for the season would be a good addition to the board (especially after the rampant speculation about Guice and 

 

I always try to be respectful when posting or (especially) starting threads, and thoroughly enjoy reading posts on the board.  (I don't post that often but I'm a life-long fan and am raising my now 12-year old son to be one too.)

 

With that being said, mods please feel free to delete if this idea is not well-received...

 

 

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Much needed thread. In fact, this could end up being a very busy thread.

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6 minutes ago, dyst said:

Much needed thread. In fact, this could end up being a very busy thread.

Let's hope not!

 

But obviously, what's the news on Guice & Ionnaidis? 

 

Guice seems to be (and said he was) okay, but I'm holding my breath about Ionnaidis[sp].

 

*fingers crossed*

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4 minutes ago, Diehard Otis said:

Let's hope not!

 

But obviously, what's the news on Guice & Ionnaidis? 

 

Guice seems to be (and said he was) okay, but I'm holding my breath about Ionnaidis[sp].

 

*fingers crossed*

On the radio this morning, supposedly late last night Jay said Matt is fine and Guice had an MRI today (just waiting for results). Don't really trust the know-how of our radio folks so still wait and see I suppose.

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Just now, dyst said:

On the radio this morning, supposedly late last night Jay said Matt is fine and Guice had an MRI today (just waiting for results). Don't really trust the know-how of our radio folks so still wait and see I suppose.

Matt's injury scared me so bad I almost ruined my diaper!

 

That's the one I'm most worried about, because it looked potentially serious on The Field.

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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Derrius Guice has been diagnosed with a sprained MCL.

RapSheet reports Guice will have an MRI to confirm the diagnosis. On one hand it's good news that it's nothing serious, but MCL sprains are typically multi-week injuries. We may not see Guice the rest of training camp and preseason, but he should be okay by the time Week 1 rolls around. It can't be good news for his early workload, but Guice could quickly re-lap his competition.

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Why is there not more of Matt's injury? We've gotten a lot of information (comparatively) about Guice, but nothing on Matt. His looked worse, and to be blunt it was a borderline cheap shot by the Patriots Guard, who purposely rolled up in his knee after the RB was down.

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Re: Guice MCL sprain - It always scares me when rookies get banged up. They are already working through a learning curve. When he's back it won't show when he's running the ball, but when it comes to blocking assignments or routes he just won't get as much practice time. It's also a physical position and he's runs extremely physically. If this lingers it could impact his effectiveness. 

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michael phillips (@michaelpRTD) Tweeted:
Matt Ioannidis on his feet in the locker room. "I think we're going to be good."
 
Hopefully we dodged a bullet.
 
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Good Lord, I hate to be that guy, but it just seemed so Redskins when Guice broke this awesome run that I'm sure got everyone excited and then goes down on it. (Also a holding call.) 

 

Was really hoping to see more of him this preseason, but hopefully he's not going to be injury prone. 

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We've been the most injured team in the league over the last decade, last year being almost historically record breaking.  At some point you either accept that the team IS cursed.  OR the team has the worst training regimen, facilities and staff in the league.

 

How many other teams have their top THREE Tackles injured and not playing right now?  Anyone else have TWO?

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7 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said:

We've been the most injured team in the league over the last decade, last year being almost historically record breaking.  At some point you either accept that the team IS cursed.  OR the team has the worst training regimen, facilities and staff in the league.

 

How many other teams have their top THREE Tackles injured and not playing right now?  Anyone else have TWO?

Im pretty sure all three would have suited up if it was a regular season game. 

There were several uninjured starters that didn't play last night 

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2 minutes ago, redskinss said:

Im pretty sure all three would have suited up if it was a regular season game. 

There were several uninjured starters that didn't play last night 

Sure, but at this point, you do have to question what we are doing wrong? Are we focusing too much on strength and neglecting endurance or flexibility? Is there a fix in equipment, pads, shoes? I mean some injuries are bad luck, but sometimes injuries happen because of fatigue or strength or stiffness or something correctable. 

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4 minutes ago, Burgold said:

Sure, but at this point, you do have to question what we are doing wrong? Are we focusing too much on strength and neglecting endurance or flexibility? Is there a fix in equipment, pads, shoes? I mean some injuries are bad luck, but sometimes injuries happen because of fatigue or strength or stiffness or something correctable. 

I agree it does appear to be more than just bad luck. 

 

I find it hard to believe that their not exploring all possible solutions to their injury problems including alternative solutions like yoga and diet etc etc. 

 

At least I certainly hope they are,  it'd be nice if someone asked Jay directly if they were,  at least then we could get a direct answer to this question. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said:

 

 

How many other teams have their top THREE Tackles injured and not playing right now?  Anyone else have TWO?

 

I don't think "Three" is accurate.

Nsekhe is our 3rd Tackle, and he started at LT last night.

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That question should be asked to Bruce and Danny.  Unless Jay is in charge of the training staff.

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8 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said:

That question should be asked to Bruce and Danny.  Unless Jay is in charge of the training staff.

All questions regarding the health of the players should be directed to the coach. 

Honestly if Jay cannot give a thoroughly detailed explanation as to what is done to keep his players healthy then he should be fired immediately. 

Having said that there are several other people who should be able to answer that question (Bruce included)  but I pray the owner isn't the leading authority on keeping our players healthy. 

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As memory serves me, early on, Kouandjio was injuried and is gone for the season.  Injury to Guice is no surprise as he is recklessly courageous, and aggressive, with his style of running.  The kid knows no other way to play this sport.

I was hoping Matt Io would be healthy, but "turf toe" takes rest and time to heal.  Now, we may be looking at a "sprained" knee (?).  All this takes time to heal, which means more time for "others" to play, and coaches to draw it up right.

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The luck angle is not feasible in my opinion. I am of the strong belief the training/medical staff is at fault. They are not doing something correctly. Whether it's the training program causing stress on the wrong joints or maybe not using the correct cleats on the right surface, it's just way to many injuries for it to be luck.

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3 minutes ago, dyst said:

The luck angle is not feasible in my opinion. I am of the strong belief the training/medical staff is at fault. They are not doing something correctly. Whether it's the training program causing stress on the wrong joints or maybe not using the correct cleats on the right surface, it's just way to many injuries for it to be luck.

 

So why hasnt it been dealt with ?

Surely the coach has figured out there's an injury problem with a root in the training, etc

Only reason I can think of, that the problem persists, is nepotism.

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5 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

 

So why hasnt it been dealt with ?

Surely the coach has figured out there's an injury problem with a root in the training, etc

Only reason I can think of, that the problem persists, is nepotism.

It would cost Danny money.  

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6 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said:

It would cost Danny money.  

 

 

I must have missed this transition.

Snyder used to be widely know as being the most extravagant spender in the league.

And now people are talking as if he's gone to the other extreme, and is now the stingiest.

What happened in between ?

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16 minutes ago, dyst said:

The luck angle is not feasible in my opinion. I am of the strong belief the training/medical staff is at fault. They are not doing something correctly. Whether it's the training program causing stress on the wrong joints or maybe not using the correct cleats on the right surface, it's just way to many injuries for it to be luck.

Or the playing surface in general.  Practice fields and FedEx do not have the best reputation.  Whatever the factors are, it would be foolish to chalk it up to bad luck every year, and the Redskins are foolish to not look into each potential factor and do everything you can to improve.  The owner has shown he will spend recklessly on free agents in the past but will scrimp when it comes to keeping players healthy??  Foolish.

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