The Sisko Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 hours ago, visionary said: Such bull****. Thatโs our so-called justice system.๐๐ ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 6:58 PM, Larry said: New "issue" being pushed by the religious right:ย At least six states are pushing "bible literacy" legislation.ย ย ย USAT: Bible classes in public schools? Why Christian lawmakers are pushing a wave of new bills ... If I were a teacher in one of these states Iโd happily comply with these laws. I could coverย theย entire Bible in a week using this book. It condenses it all down so it can be quickly and easily understood and is hilarious to boot. Thereโs so much stuff in the Bible that Xtians like to pretend isnโt there, that a clever person could use Song of Solomon, among other stuff toย get them to withdraw this garbage legislation without having to use the usual method, i.e. suing for equal time for Satanism or, even worse *GASP* Islam!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Sisko said: If I were a teacher in one of these states Iโd happily comply with these laws. I could coverย theย entire Bible in a week using this book. It condenses it all down so it can be quickly and easily understood and is hilarious to boot. Thereโs so much stuff in the Bible that Xtians like to pretend isnโt there, that a clever person could use Song of Solomon, among other stuff toย get them to withdraw this garbage legislation without having to use the usual method, i.e. suing for equal time for Satanism or, even worse *GASP* Islam!! ย Purchased.ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 3:40 PM, twa said: Nah, I'm a Cruz man... I can understand why. He has so many redeeming qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: I can understand why. He has so many redeeming qualities. ย And a beard now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Are they going to teach the history of the Bible? Like how a group of really powerful men got together and voted on which letters were the word of God, how that carries about as much authority as if the mods decided that the forum rules were the word of God,ย and how they poured boiling water into peoples vaginas if they disagreed? ย edit: Christians poured boiling water in peopleโs vaginas. Not the mods. 3 minutes ago, twa said: And a beard now. Makes him look slightly less punchable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 From that Article on Shady Brett: ย "The judges concluded that while the complaints "are serious," there is no existing authority that allows lower court judges to investigate or discipline Supreme Court justices." ย ย We gonna have to impeach his drunk ass. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: edit: Christians poured boiling water in peopleโs vaginas. Not the mods. Is it mutually exclusive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, PokerPacker said: Is it mutually exclusive? Would fix a lot of the issues around here for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ This probably belongs in the PWNED thread!! ย ย Edited January 30, 2019 by The Sisko 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) When I was in High School they had bible clubs as well as 20 other clubs.ย Seems like that is plenty enough for those actually interested in learning about it.ย ย In world civilization class we had a particular assignment where we all had to research a specific religion randomly.ย Basically just talk about their historical context, basic tenants, and stuff.ย ย ย I don't think anyone has an issue with either of the two things above. ย The problem with what Trump is proposing is that right off the bat it is showing a preference to a specific religion.ย Even if you frame the class as learning about it from a historical perspective, it is giving it special treatment as the one holy book to ponder.ย Even if you put that to the side (although I don't think you can constitutionally) how is the class being taught in the context of what the bible is.ย Is it being taught as if the bible is merely a religious book that exists and you use your own critical thinking to figure out if it is true or not.....or is it a "the bible is the word of god and we are going to make sure you are all schooled up on it" class? ย ย Edited January 30, 2019 by NoCalMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Good points. My HS also had a bible club. There was also a comparative religions class offered as an elective. I took it senior year but it was first period so I missed a lot of the classes. Got a F....ย 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Way back in the 80s, my HS offered "The Bible as Literature". In English class, there was a poll conducted on interest, and only me & the guy next to me (who sold his drum set to my dad as my surprise Christmas gift ๐) raised our hands.ย I don't think they could find an appropriate teacher, because the topic was never taught.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, clietas said: Good points. My HS also had a bible club. There was also a comparative religions class offered as an elective. I took it senior year but it was first period so I missed a lot of the classes. Got a F....ย I assumed you'd get a D for "Damned for all eternity". Edited January 30, 2019 by PokerPacker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 hours ago, NoCalMike said: ....Is it being taught as if the bible is merely a religious book that exists and you use your own critical thinking to figure out if it is true or not.....or is it a "the bible is the word of god and we are going to make sure you are all schooled up on it" class? This is a rhetorical question, right?ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 ย ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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twa Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 it's a stupid question.....Abe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 ย ย ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) On 1/30/2019 at 2:48 PM, NoCalMike said: When I was in High School they had bible clubs as well as 20 other clubs.ย Seems like that is plenty enough for those actually interested in learning about it.ย ย In world civilization class we had a particular assignment where we all had to research a specific religion randomly.ย Basically just talk about their historical context, basic tenants, and stuff.ย ย ย I don't think anyone has an issue with either of the two things above. ย The problem with what Trump is proposing is that right off the bat it is showing a preference to a specific religion.ย Even if you frame the class as learning about it from a historical perspective, it is giving it special treatment as the one holy book to ponder.ย Even if you put that to the side (although I don't think you can constitutionally) how is the class being taught in the context of what the bible is.ย Is it being taught as if the bible is merely a religious book that exists and you use your own critical thinking to figure out if it is true or not.....or is it a "the bible is the word of god and we are going to make sure you are all schooled up on it" class? ย ย An in depthย history class of organized religion at the high school level would do wonders in our society. ย Stuff like this should be an elective, if have one catered to Christianity (either the history, teachings, or both) helped get Creationism out of science classes, I'd met that compromise halfway in a heartbeat. Edited February 8, 2019 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 (edited) ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย Edited February 8, 2019 by visionary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 New kid got so drunk he forgot what precedent was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, DogofWar1 said: New kid got so drunk he forgot what precedent was. ย He believes that he was placed here for the specific purpose of violating precedent. (And he is correct.) ย He also believes that he and his cohorts are now immune to the world, and therefore don't have to hide the fact that they lied to get there. (He's correct there, too. But some of his cohorts still want to hide it, anyway.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just also observing, as to this and similar laws: ย The original ruling inย Roeย was that the law banning abortions claimed to do so to protect the safety of the mother, but that abortion had reached the point where the risks of abortion, while not zero, were safer than the risks of pregnancy. And that therefore, banning abortions took away the individual's freedom without a valid reason.ย ย The law being reviewed is an attempt to ban abortions, by claiming to be for safety.ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 An equally big story as Kavanaughโs dissent is that Roberts may be taking the Kennedy role of supporting peopleโs right to privacy/body autonomy.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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