Kurd Cudins Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 The reason there is so much more parity in the NHL is the lack of a luxury tax. The ability for some NBA franchises to buy a team is too great. Installing a hard cap is the only way to fix the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: The past 3 years you knew whoever wins that seasons wins the cup. As an outside observer without having the emotional pull you could see quite clearly in the context of a series the Caps were head and shoulders better than every team but the Pens and visa versa when the Pens won their Cups. It's more or less the only series where either team needed their goaltenders to come up big to win the series. I don't see it changing in the next 2-3 years either that series should decide the cup winner. Maybe you knew that, but I certainly didn't know the Pens would win back to back Cups if they simply beat the Caps in the second round. You are ignoring Caps history if you think that if they didn't play the Pens, they would have made the Stanley Cup finals in 2016 and 2017 let alone win the Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: The past 3 years you knew whoever wins that seasons wins the cup. As an outside observer without having the emotional pull you could see quite clearly in the context of a series the Caps were head and shoulders better than every team but the Pens and visa versa when the Pens won their Cups. It's more or less the only series where either team needed their goaltenders to come up big to win the series. I don't see it changing in the next 2-3 years either that series should decide the cup winner. The NHL isn't immune to a lack of parity ot just had a good stretch for a while. Wasn't there a stretch in the 90s with essentially the same 2-3 teams ending up playing for the cup? In the NBA in the 90s the Bulls, Rockets and Spurs won titles. In the NHL the Red Wings, Penguins, Avalanche, Rangers, Canadiens, Oilers and Devils all won titles. Even before salary cap era, the NHL was always been a more interesting league in terms of parity. You have to go back to the 1980s when it really had no parity and before that with the 70s Canadiens. I disagree the likelihood that the Capitals and Penguins don't win the Cup next year is very high. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the Predators, Jets, Lightning etc. Of course, I'd prefer we go back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berggy9598 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, Hersh said: Maybe you knew that, but I certainly didn't know the Pens would win back to back Cups if they simply beat the Caps in the second round. You are ignoring Caps history if you think that if they didn't play the Pens, they would have made the Stanley Cup finals in 2016 and 2017 let alone win the Cup. I look at it completely differently not being a Caps fan that's true, and without going into what yellow and black jerseys I have in my closet I can certainly say I've been there too (moreso last season) but looking at it emotions aside can you really say those two teams aren't in a class of their own? 5 minutes ago, Sticksboi05 said: In the NBA in the 90s the Bulls, Rockets and Spurs won titles. In the NHL the Red Wings, Penguins, Avalanche, Rangers, Canadiens, Oilers and Devils all won titles. Even before salary cap era, the NHL was always been a more interesting league in terms of parity. You have to go back to the 1980s when it really had no parity and before that with the 70s Canadiens. I disagree the likelihood that the Capitals and Penguins don't win the Cup next year is very high. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the Predators, Jets, Lightning etc. Of course, I'd prefer we go back to back. Pre Sidney Crosby in the early 2000s the Pens weren't sniffing a cup in their wildest dreams even with an older 66/68. They had some decent players outside of that but I remember Jersey practically toying with them when they met in the playoffs. They weren't on the Devil's/Avs/Red Wings level. The Caps have a very good chance of going back to back but again, I'm not a Caps fan so I don't see it the same way. Look at the WC conference though as much as Vegas was a great story that should never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Berggy9598 said: I look at it completely differently not being a Caps fan that's true, and without going into what yellow and black jerseys I have in my closet I can certainly say I've been there too (moreso last season) but looking at it emotions aside can you really say those two teams aren't in a class of their own? Pre Sidney Crosby in the early 2000s the Pens weren't sniffing a cup in their wildest dreams even with an older 66/68. They had some decent players outside of that but I remember Jersey practically toying with them when they met in the playoffs. They weren't on the Devil's/Avs/Red Wings level. The Caps have never deserved to be in a class above every other team before this Stanley Cup win. Also, in 2015-16 there is no way people thought it was just the Pens and Caps. Not when the Blackhawks had won 3 of the last 5 Cups and the Kings the other two. To say nothing of Tampa the last few seasons being right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berggy9598 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Hersh said: The Caps have never deserved to be in a class above every other team before this Stanley Cup win. Also, in 2015-16 there is no way people thought it was just the Pens and Caps. Not when the Blackhawks had won 3 of the last 5 Cups and the Kings the other two. To say nothing of Tampa the last few seasons being right there. Im talking about the last three years. Objectively speaking I see a big back between those two teams and everyone else but I guess you have to factor history in too. Before 15/16 the Penguins fair or not were gathering some choker momentum too. There are of course other good teams out there but imo at the moment the only teams that can beat the Caps or Penguins in a 7 game series are each other. All due respect to Tampa Bay long periods of games in the ECF they didn't look like they belonged on the ice with the Caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Good for DSP. Now let’s get Beagle and Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 My biggest worry about this team is ironically Ovi. Over the 2017-18 season, he seemed to be more serious and focused (at least according to reports) and not just on the ice, but off it too. We heard that he partied less, took his off season training more seriously, at better, etc. Now, that he has won the cup, will he backslide and party or with the monkey off his back will everything be easier? Will the Caps be hungry to repeat or be fat and happy? Answering my own question, I think the benefits of winning the cup will drive the team more than the satisfaction of a goal completed will lead to complacency, but I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 48 minutes ago, Burgold said: My biggest worry about this team is ironically Ovi. Over the 2017-18 season, he seemed to be more serious and focused (at least according to reports) and not just on the ice, but off it too. We heard that he partied less, took his off season training more seriously, at better, etc. Now, that he has won the cup, will he backslide and party or with the monkey off his back will everything be easier? Will the Caps be hungry to repeat or be fat and happy? Answering my own question, I think the benefits of winning the cup will drive the team more than the satisfaction of a goal completed will lead to complacency, but I dunno... If I were you man I would sit back and relax and try to enjoy this off-season for once, we are Stanley Cup Champions. #capsyear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Burgold said: My biggest worry about this team is ironically Ovi. Over the 2017-18 season, he seemed to be more serious and focused (at least according to reports) and not just on the ice, but off it too. We heard that he partied less, took his off season training more seriously, at better, etc. Now, that he has won the cup, will he backslide and party or with the monkey off his back will everything be easier? Will the Caps be hungry to repeat or be fat and happy? Answering my own question, I think the benefits of winning the cup will drive the team more than the satisfaction of a goal completed will lead to complacency, but I dunno... Now he gonna be a daddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 1 hour ago, PokerPacker said: Now he gonna be a daddy. Yeah, if anything I think that would mellow him out a bit once the baby comes. But either way, I'm just going to enjoy this season. No pressure, they deserve that. I love Ovi, and Backstrom, all the more because they could have gone elsewhere but stuck around and won the Cup where they were drafted. Means so much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Yes! Wilson! Wilson! Wilson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Forgot Kempney. 2 more. Beags and Willy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 I see our love fest on NHLN is gone and it’s already turned into PPHN or Pittsburgh Penguins Hockey Network. They’ve been talking about all their moves and how they can get back to the SC Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Sticksboi05 said: I disagree the likelihood that the Capitals and Penguins don't win the Cup next year is very high. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the Predators, Jets, Lightning etc. Of course, I'd prefer we go back to back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 So it looks like everyone is coming back, outside of Orpik and Im still hearing they could resign him too, if ish lines up.. It's a long shot, but I'd take him back in a heart beat for 1 million per or there abouts.. It's amazing what winning a cup will do to your opinion of players.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFanRob Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 So I was just browsing thru videos on YouTube about Kuzy and I didn’t realize he had an older brother pass away just like Ovi. Could explain some of their closenese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Kempny 4 year 2.5 a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 18 hours ago, Berggy9598 said: Im talking about the last three years. Objectively speaking I see a big back between those two teams and everyone else but I guess you have to factor history in too. Before 15/16 the Penguins fair or not were gathering some choker momentum too. There are of course other good teams out there but imo at the moment the only teams that can beat the Caps or Penguins in a 7 game series are each other. All due respect to Tampa Bay long periods of games in the ECF they didn't look like they belonged on the ice with the Caps. Pittsburgh barely got by Ottawa last year in what I believe was a double overtime in a Game 7 to even make it out of the ECF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, maxspruill21 said: Kempny 4 year 2.5 a year fantastic deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Bear Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Sorry to see Trotz go, but glad we are re-signing many of our players. The Washington Capitals will reportedly be signing Michal Kempny to a new multi-year contract extension. Go Caps! Back To Back!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 Any word on Wilson yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, MisterPinstripe said: Any word on Wilson yet? He's a RFA, so there is really no rush. It will get done this summer. My guess for him is 4 years/3.5-4 AAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted June 29, 2018 Share Posted June 29, 2018 9.7 mil left to sign Wilson and Beags, maybe even get Orpik back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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