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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Is this the most talented yet misused defensive front we've had in years?

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To answer the original question, Our 87 4-3 D line would be the best I think we ever had. This 3-4 "D" front 7 has a chance to be better. They need to win a super bowl to prove it.

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7 hours ago, RedskinsLegacy said:

Agree, you can't let elite QB's sit back and pick you apart, because they will do just that. Timing is everything and I would like to see us get in their faces more. 

 

The Devil's Bargain with blitzing elite QBs like Matt Ryan and Drew Brees is that they read them pre-snap too well.  Disguising them is a real issue.  If their OL is weak, then I think it's better to just play coverage and trust your DL to win their match ups.

 

The problem for us against New Orleans was that their OL won for pretty much the entire first half, plus Brees was on a mission, and plus our secondary had a ton of breakdowns.  It also didn't help that the refs decided to allow some holds and we made some bad bail out penalties on the few drives we actually managed to stop them.

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1 minute ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

 

The Devil's Bargain with blitzing elite QBs like Matt Ryan and Drew Brees is that they read them pre-snap too well.  Disguising them is a real issue.  If their OL is weak, then I think it's better to just play coverage and trust your DL to win their match ups.

 

The problem for us against New Orleans was that their OL won for pretty much the entire first half, plus Brees was on a mission, and plus our secondary had a ton of breakdowns.  It also didn't help that the refs decided to allow some holds and we made some bad bail out penalties on the few drives we actually managed to stop them.

 

 

Whats even more maddening was it was 6-3 at the end of the 1st quarter.  It was working... then we stalled with ball control on offense and we just couldn't hang.  

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41.8

In 2018, Ioannidis has been in on 230 snaps for the Redskins defense, which is just over half of the total action. He's generated 5.5 sacks on those 230 snaps.

So, that means the third-year player drops a QB once every 41.8 snaps. That number is actually better than the one posted by these top sack-getters around the league (Donald currently leads the NFL in sacks, while the rest are tied for second):

Aaron Donald: 424 snaps/10 snaps/sack every 42.4 snaps
Von Miller: 408 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 51 snaps
Jason Pierre-Paul: 429 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 53.62 snaps
Danielle Hunter: 442 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 55.25 snaps
Dee Ford: 467 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 58.38 snaps
JJ Watt: 484 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 60.5 snaps
Myles Garrett: 566 snaps/8 sacks/sack every 70.75 snaps

Ioannidis isn't too heavily involved in Washington's nickel defense, which is why his snap count is lower than the players listed above.

But when it comes to sacks-per-snap, none of those elite guys can match him. On a per-play basis, he's been more productive than Aaron Donald, Von Miller and JJ Watt — stars who are regarded as some of the most feared defenders of this decade.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/impressed-matt-ioannidis-these-three-numbers-will-make-you-even-more-impressed

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while I'm in favor of giving Smith time to get things done, and I have seen him get some decent pressures, I also wouldn't mind seeing a line of Kerrigan, Payne and Ioannidis on the inside and Allen at the other end

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I hope our 1st or 2nd round pick this year goes to the front 7 again. I want a stud ILB with range or a speed rusher. Whether we keep Preston Smith or not. 

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12 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

I want a stud ILB with range or a speed rusher.

Agreed.  I want both of these with our first two picks.  People will opine for LG or a WR, but I want to build the defense.  Not sure about the high end talent at ILB in this draft, but I wouldn't cry if we drafted a corner either.  

 

I'm a defensive guy.  Our defense has been trash for far too long.  We're on the cusp of having an elite defense.  Time to bring back the ****ing boom stick.

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Just now, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

Agreed.  I want both of these with our first two picks.  People will opine for LG or a WR, but I want to build the defense.  Not sure about the high end talent at ILB in this draft, but I wouldn't cry if we drafted a corner either.  

 

I'm a defensive guy.  Our defense has been trash for far too long.  We're on the cusp of having an elite defense.  Time to bring back the ****ing boom stick.

I'm with ya. Defense first always. I actually enjoy this offense. Run the ball and dont **** up. Let the D run the game and control the tempo. 

 

I admit I grossly underestimate the importance of a CB. I'm a LB and Saftey guy. 

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45 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I'm with ya. Defense first always. I actually enjoy this offense. Run the ball and dont **** up. 

Agreed.

 

And while I’m in here, to all our ES talent gurus who were mad we picked Payne....

 

LOLOLOLOLOlOL.?

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Gotta go BPA.  Might be a DL, might be a LB, or might be a DB.  But it could easily be an OL or WR/TE or hell, even a running back.  The DL class is so strong this season that good players at those other positions are going to get pushed down because of a likely first round DL run.

 

What I'd like the most is for the BPA to be a QB but I haven't seen any QBs I really like this season and I am pretty sure we're not going to draft one anyway.

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1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

Gotta go BPA.  Might be a DL, might be a LB, or might be a DB.  But it could easily be an OL or WR/TE or hell, even a running back.  The DL class is so strong this season that good players at those other positions are going to get pushed down because of a likely first round DL run.

 

What I'd like the most is for the BPA to be a QB but I haven't seen any QBs I really like this season and I am pretty sure we're not going to draft one anyway.

 

I agree.  I think we should go best player available.  A real legit impact player.

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4 hours ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

Agreed.  I want both of these with our first two picks.  People will opine for LG or a WR, but I want to build the defense.  Not sure about the high end talent at ILB in this draft, but I wouldn't cry if we drafted a corner either.  

 

I'm a defensive guy.  Our defense has been trash for far too long.  We're on the cusp of having an elite defense.  Time to bring back the ****ing boom stick.

 

we still have some young talent developing in those spots, we need to spend some attention where the cupboard is bare

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5 minutes ago, carex said:

 

we still have some young talent developing in those spots, we need to spend some attention where the cupboard is bare

We have no young talent at ILB or edge rusher.  Try again.  

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Just now, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

We have no young talent at ILB or edge rusher.  Try again.  

 

None? Really?

 

Yeah, can't agree with that. Anderson and SDH have flashed in limited reps.

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3 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

We have no young talent at ILB or edge rusher.  Try again.  

At ILB..JHC or SDH could develop nicely and if nothing else one of the two could start in the next couple of years. I think edge rusher and defensive depth is needed.(everywhere). The rest can go to the offense...line..TE..WR...developmental  QB..etc. I would say corner but who knows how Adonis..Fabian develop...

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Just now, Area51 said:

Imagine how good this line could've been if we would've kept Anthony Lainier...?

 

OMG.  I had a problem with that move from the start.  I can't remember where I posted it.

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Just now, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

I like both players, but neither would keep me from drafting over them.  

You like them, but we have no talent there? Ok........

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1 minute ago, Vanguard said:

 

OMG.  I had a problem with that move from the start.  I can't remember where I posted it.

 

Lol I didn't like the move either but he had an injury and I'm not sure if he's on another team right now.  

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