c slag Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 He has one final chance on Thursday Good luck to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playaction2Sanders Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 12 hours ago, evmiii said: Apke showed athletic skills (you can't teach) and made some bad and late decisions (that he can learn). I agree he hasn't looked real good in preseason, but I think his upside is worth keeping him around for another look. Kendall Fuller looked bad in his rookie year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 6:13 PM, Riggo'sRangers said: Reed was a good glue player. THAT is the kind of player I like, very much. Hail. The only problem I had with Reed wasn't even Reed, it was us not getting someone better then him that could solidify his position as exactly what you're talking about. From what I'm seeing, that's not what this guy is. Either he can contribute more then being a liability or he has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 6:12 PM, dyst said: We need more of our top two draft picks to hit and be elite type players and beyond that we need our 3-4 round picks to at least contribute. Can’t keep missing on these picks. I swear there's a big part of me that feels that if we didnt draft Apke in the 4th, he wouldnt have gotten drafted until the 6-7 round, if drafted at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panninho Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I honestly don't get the amount of hate this guy gets. Yeah he stunk in the last game, just like about anyone else on defense. But here we are talking about a rookie who everyone knew would need some time. I know that many people didn't like the pick in the 4th, me neither to be honest. But come on, cut him some slack. Dooming him after one really bad showing is just not fair. Because he also wasn't so bad in the first two preseason games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 said: I swear there's a big part of me that feels that if we didnt draft Apke in the 4th, he wouldnt have gotten drafted until the 6-7 round, if drafted at all. More than likely. I know lots of teams over draft players but a team like us who struggles to get past mediocrity needs to desperately hit on these picks. Everytime we draft it seems like the NFL world is slightly shocked we took a guy that high. Ryan Anderson, Geron Christianson, Apke, Trent Murphy, Josh LeRebuis. And those are just the ones who were over drafted. There are also the ones who where drafted in the right slot but just didn’t pan out. Can’t keep flunking these picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternNCbywayofNOVA Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Playaction2Sanders said: Kendall Fuller looked bad in his rookie year too. Fuller was coming off injury his rookie year. He didn’t look anything close to what Apke is displaying. Fullers rookie year was full of him being in position but getting there just a second too late. He was not running around the field like a chicken with his head cut off. The concerning thing is what we are seeing from Apke is putting a exclamation point on his negative draft profile. He doesn’t look natural at all. He ran fast in shorts, he hasn’t even flashed on special teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I can't believe this project player is going to be a project. Nothing wrong with grabbing a gamble in the back half of the draft. Want to be pissed, be mad they're not addressing it earlier or more aggressively and we end up with DJ Swearinger and Nicholson. Also, people are high on Nicholson and we're high on the other safety we took that got injured and glad we drafted them late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 " has outstanding size and could test well at the combine and his pro day, but his tape is blah and no amount of workouts in shorts and t-shirts will change that. Lack of playmaking production combined with his unsure tackling make him a traits-only prospect who could have a hard time sticking in the league unless he finds more confidence and aggression." That is what NFL.com had to say about Nickleson a year ago. And yet at the end of the year people were noticing him - a lot . Nickleson was also coming off a torn Labum . Why am I mentioning this - Well as others have pointed out a lot of the criticism being levelled at Apke was levelled at Fuller and Moreau and indeed Nickleson in year 1. I was very impressed in the awareness and his clossing speed on the interception on the tipped ball against the Jets last week - and i need to go back but i seem to remember him flashing on some special teams plays too in his short NFL career.... Apke for the record was projected all over the shop - from the 4th round through to undrafated (priority free agent) - but remember if Cooley hadn't been drafted by us - he would have likely been undrafted (Parcells said he was a 6th or 7th round prospect at best at a combine interview) - some people said Breeland came out of collage too soon and he was ranked as a priority free agent by some scounting services ... it really is down to what coaches are looking for The point is can we stop writing off players ? If this time next year Apke is not on the team then yes - he was a bust but not after a handful of plays in a meaningless preseason game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I wanna see Apke play a little WR, they should give him a try in game 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, JSSkinz said: I wanna see Apke play a little WR, they should give him a try in game 4. He should play every single down of game 4. Offense, defense, teams, until he looks like a probowler at some position, Ammirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 29 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: He should play every single down of game 4. Offense, defense, teams, until he looks like a probowler at some position, Ammirite? Whats funny is if you look at his weaknesses on NFL.com's combine profile its basically everything he did last game. 4.3 speed, 6-1, seems to have good hands. We have to find a place for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 hours ago, JSSkinz said: Whats funny is if you look at his weaknesses on NFL.com's combine profile its basically everything he did last game. 4.3 speed, 6-1, seems to have good hands. We have to find a place for this guy. Not if he can't play we don't. I understand that he is a prospect, and I saw the Nickleson post above. But let's be honest, Nickleson is the exception. Most players who weren't productive in college are not productive in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Not if he can't play we don't. I understand that he is a prospect, and I saw the Nickleson post above. But let's be honest, Nickleson is the exception. Most players who weren't productive in college are not productive in the NFL. Didn't he only play a year or two at safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 6 hours ago, JSSkinz said: We have to find a place for this guy. Special Teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMalcolmConnection Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Personal protector on punt team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheMalcolmConnection said: Personal protector on punt team? We'll have to run that by Arch, he's the. Behind the scenes punt protector coach.... quite a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 14 hours ago, dyst said: More than likely. I know lots of teams over draft players but a team like us who struggles to get past mediocrity needs to desperately hit on these picks. Everytime we draft it seems like the NFL world is slightly shocked we took a guy that high. Ryan Anderson, Geron Christianson, Apke, Trent Murphy, Josh LeRebuis. And those are just the ones who were over drafted. There are also the ones who where drafted in the right slot but just didn’t pan out. Can’t keep flunking these picks Neither Ryan Anderson or Geron Christian would consider "overdrafts". They were picked pretty much where expected. I'll grant you that Apke, Murphy, and LeRibeus were all overdrafts. Of course, so was Montae Nicholson. And let's face it, Murphy turned out okay in the end. You could nitpick the lack of production early and the fact he was injured an entire year. But literally every team in the NFL has overdrafts and busts and misses. I didn't like the Apke pick when made, but it's also too early to write him off completely despite lackluster returns to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Not if he can't play we don't. Not disagreeing with you but my point is that he has off the charts athleticism so get creative and figure out how he can help us or what position he is best suited to play at this level, maybe it's not safety. If he's here to be a pro bowl type special teams player that's fine but you have to tackle and he lacks in that category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 So, if Apke turns into a pro bowl ST selection 3 years I'm hunting everybody down. I think he flashed a couple times thus far. Denver was his worse game and NYJ his best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Hahaha you guys are great. 3 preseason games into his career and he's a bust and represents how awful every part from the position coaches to the draft room to the owner...... Wait, too far, but you get my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XxSpearheadxX Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'd call you all overly reactionary but I was so off put by our whole teams performance against the broncos (Except AP running roughshod of course) that I step away from coverage because it made me feel nauseated lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 39 minutes ago, Bonez3 said: So, if Apke turns into a pro bowl ST selection 3 years I'm hunting everybody down. I think he flashed a couple times thus far. Denver was his worse game and NYJ his best And if he doesn't do we get to hunt you down (whatever the hell that means)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreZorn Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Didn't even see the game but heard he looked rough. OK so what? He's raw and it's pre season. I know player development is still relatively new around these parts but haven't there been enough examples of players in the last 4-5 years that take big steps that we shouldn't crucify and condemn him for awfulness? Come on guys. I saw the Jets game and he flashed a little. Let's practice patience. Also, it's painfully obvious some don't realize the hit rate on draft picks for teams across the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Jedi Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We used a 4th round pick on this kid and he has some pretty good athletic talent. The truth is he's gonna stay on this roster and be given a chance to develop. That can go in either direction, but it's going to at least a year or two to see what he becomes. Who knows, depending on how fast he progresses is can be sooner rather than later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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