RandyHolt Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: This seems to be the general consensus, but I'm not convinced that he'll get fired if we struggle. He's got another year left on his contract. We drafted him a quarterback, I think he's going to get another year and whether or not he gets another extension is going to depend on how Haskins looks in the 2020 season. Oops! I had thought this was the final year of his contract aka "dead man walking". I feel like an idiot. I do see he remains voted most likely to be fired first, by the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: Oops! I had thought this was the final year of his contract aka "dead man walking". I feel like an idiot. I do see he remains voted most likely to be fired first, by the books. I don't think it would surprise any of us if he got fired after this season should we miss the playoffs. That's basically the way we've been doing things in the Snyder era. But it's not the strategic move IMO. We can postpone a decision on Jay until the end of the 2020 season because of the extension he signed in 2017 and we should do so, unless the team shocks us this year and wins a lot of games. It's just bad business to fire a coach whose basically been mediocre without a QB or a defense, immediately after you finally got him a QB and a defense. It's an unforced error. The way I think this plays out is we win 7 or 8 games again, Keenum starts most of the season unless he gets injured, and the Haskins comes in towards the end of the year after we've been eliminated from the postseason. He looks decent, we get some help for the offensive line and secondary, and then we go into 2020 as the decisive year for Jay Gruden's tenure here. Either Haskins looks good and we take a step forward into the postseason and Jay gets an extension, or Haskins struggles and we miss the playoffs again and Jay walks. Seasons where the Head Coach is on an expiring contract are often dicey, but that's how I think we play this one out. The only way I see Jay getting fired this year is if the wheels fall off this season and we look absolutely horrible. I've got a lot of faith in this defense though, I think we win 7. Allen's future is the bigger question for me. I'm honestly not sure what it will take for him to get fired. I could absolutely see him surviving Jay Gruden getting fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I don't think it would surprise any of us if he got fired after this season should we miss the playoffs. That's basically the way we've been doing things in the Snyder era. But it's not the strategic move IMO. We can postpone a decision on Jay until the end of the 2020 season because of the extension he signed in 2017 and we should do so, unless the team shocks us this year and wins a lot of games. It's just bad business to fire a coach whose basically been mediocre without a QB or a defense, immediately after you finally got him a QB and a defense. It's an unforced error. The way I think this plays out is we win 7 or 8 games again, Keenum starts most of the season unless he gets injured, and the Haskins comes in towards the end of the year after we've been eliminated from the postseason. He looks decent, we get some help for the offensive line and secondary, and then we go into 2020 as the decisive year for Jay Gruden's tenure here. Either Haskins looks good and we take a step forward into the postseason and Jay gets an extension, or Haskins struggles and we miss the playoffs again and Jay walks. Seasons where the Head Coach is on an expiring contract are often dicey, but that's how I think we play this one out. The only way I see Jay getting fired this year is if the wheels fall off this season and we look absolutely horrible. I've got a lot of faith in this defense though, I think we win 7. Allen's future is the bigger question for me. I'm honestly not sure what it will take for him to get fired. I could absolutely see him surviving Jay Gruden getting fired. I agree with most of this except I do think there is a good shot that Jay gets fired. As for Allen, he just recently said the stadium announcement is a year or so away. Between that and Kilgore from the WP fishing around on the topic where he was told its Bruce, Bruce, Bruce when it comes to the lead on the stadium -- i am guessing his future is secure for at least one more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I don't think it would surprise any of us if he got fired after this season should we miss the playoffs. That's basically the way we've been doing things in the Snyder era. But it's not the strategic move IMO. We can postpone a decision on Jay until the end of the 2020 season because of the extension he signed in 2017 and we should do so, unless the team shocks us this year and wins a lot of games. It's just bad business to fire a coach whose basically been mediocre without a QB or a defense, immediately after you finally got him a QB and a defense. It's an unforced error. The way I think this plays out is we win 7 or 8 games again, Keenum starts most of the season unless he gets injured, and the Haskins comes in towards the end of the year after we've been eliminated from the postseason. He looks decent, we get some help for the offensive line and secondary, and then we go into 2020 as the decisive year for Jay Gruden's tenure here. Either Haskins looks good and we take a step forward into the postseason and Jay gets an extension, or Haskins struggles and we miss the playoffs again and Jay walks. Seasons where the Head Coach is on an expiring contract are often dicey, but that's how I think we play this one out. The only way I see Jay getting fired this year is if the wheels fall off this season and we look absolutely horrible. I've got a lot of faith in this defense though, I think we win 7. Allen's future is the bigger question for me. I'm honestly not sure what it will take for him to get fired. I could absolutely see him surviving Jay Gruden getting fired. Although most on this board have mocked Jay's play calling for most of his tenure, I am one who believes he has not gotten a true shot with a healthy roster. Our injury luck has been dreadful the past 3 or 4 seasons. Like, truly and completely horrendous. (Did I mention disasterously so?) If we can just stay healthy this season (and get Trent back, hopefully healthy for 16), we'll see what Gruden has. I'm unimpressed with our entire passing game personnel and I'm not sure Manusky is the right coach for the talent we have on defense but I really do like Jay Gruden as a person and I'd love to see him get a shot at coaching a healthy squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmandoug1 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Juicy juice.....need 109 yards and a TD this weekend. Steak and shrimp on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Drinking the Guice but I keep envisioning him breaking one vs Philly. I have to share in case it happens, naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 14 hours ago, RandyHolt said: Drinking the Guice but I keep envisioning him breaking one vs Philly. I have to share in case it happens, naturally. My fantasy team, Guice Guice Baby, agrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo'sRangers Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, LetThePointsSoar said: My fantasy team, Guice Guice Baby, agrees with you. I'm sorry, I am going to have to steal this team name for my league. AWESOME name! Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJacobyHOForRIOT Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Cheesey WEEK 2 FOX PROMO Q Fox theme music This week on Fox Nfl Sunday A battle of NFC East Rivals clash in the nations capitol, As Dak prescott and the Dallas Cowboys , take on the Washington Redskins and star runningback Darrius Guice who makes winning in Washington O so Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spaceman Spiff Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 OooooOOOOooooOOOOOoooo Guice getting a little testy with the media. Can't really blame him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 So is the plan to workhorse following his second injury in the same knee with AP on the bench? If that's true, they'll both be in IR, CT as well, before the year is over and people deserve to get fired for it. Share the carries to protect them, why is that so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: OooooOOOOooooOOOOOoooo Guice getting a little testy with the media. Can't really blame him. I like it. He just wants to get out on the field and play, tired of talking about it. Hes going to be hitting holes hard on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, MisterPinstripe said: I like it. He just wants to get out on the field and play, tired of talking about it. Hes going to be hitting holes hard on Sunday. I like it, too. I've wondered when he was going to show some teeth, now is the perfect time to do it. Dude is focused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I can't wait to see AB get surrounded by the media The modern day coverage of sports is over the top. More and more and more non stop coverage and "reporters" in your face. I am glad Guice pushed back at them they probably swarm him because he makes their job simple. Full on proper game face is answering every question with "my sole focus is on beating Philly" and looking really annoyed. Belichek has a career in consulting after he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetThePointsSoar Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 With AP inactive, all signs are a healthy dose of Guice today. Been waiting on this day since the moment we drafted him. Go get yours, young man, can't WAIT to see him run wild today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 We are showing a tremendous amount of confidence in Guice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: We are showing a tremendous amount of confidence in Guice. Yes, but based on what? After a couple of games, sure. But now we gamble on practise info that he can carry it all game. And if he goes down we go to Chris? With all due respect but Jay is not going to give Thompson 20 carries...so at that point we just air it out. I don't get why we just don't keep A.P and Guice. We want to grind teams. Let's then have two grinders. Smallwood playing is not going to improve the odds of us winning games more then A.P imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I love Guice, loved him back when he was at LSU. I think he's going to be a super star. tough test today, the eagles D line is stacked. Still I'd have activated Peterson. But still jazzed to see Guice. I see it similar to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, wilco_holland said: Yes, but based on what? After a couple of games, sure. But now we gamble on practise info that he can carry it all game. And if he goes down we go to Chris? With all due respect but Jay is not going to give Thompson 20 carries...so at that point we just air it out. I don't get why we just don't keep A.P and Guice. We want to grind teams. Let's then have two grinders. Smallwood playing is not going to improve the odds of us winning games more then A.P imo. Smallwood has 10 starts in this league, so he’s perfectly capable of serving as a change of pace guy for us...or anyone. We all saw AP get ground down last year...he had next to nothing left in December. So, I suppose we’re looking to keep him fresh for the stretch. And there’s nothing crazy about wanting to do that. Earlier this week, Case said something to the effect that we were gonna come out “all guns blazing”. Making AP inactive certainly lends some credence to that. Personally, I’d prefer to have him active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 What is basically at the root of carrying 3 or 4 backs. Jay carried and has carried 3 backs active on game days, right? Who was his #3 last year... it wasn't Perine the 1st and 2nd down back. It was Marshall, Bibbs..... so which type of backup back does he need today, as 10 point dogs, with CT and Guice as his active locks. If we are going to worry about injury he HAS to carry 4 backs - then who gets sat? Smallwood has the revenge factor, if such a thing exists. He has 200 career carries just like CT. Last year Jay carried a CT backup more often than AP, even though AP post major injury was hardly proven durable himself. Smallwood is 511ish 200pounds. At least with an injury at RB coaches have options. Go pass happy 5 wide. Pull a GB and use TMC as a RB. Its not a like a LT going down, who has to battle every single play. Heck CT has started games for us yes even having injuries in his career. I have to stick to my prediction AP will be inactive today, to allow better flexibility at another prediction. For the final time, I want to see AP active today, and not see CT forced into a heavy load. EDIT - reading other posts got me googling..... We announced AP as inactive already????? What the hell that is horrible coaching further making things too easy on Philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I wouldn’t worry about inactives leaking this morning. It’s typical if anything. The game planning is already done so I don’t think it helps the Eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: We are showing a tremendous amount of confidence in Guice. I don’t think this is a sign of confidence. You can have confidence in Guice with AP active. This sounds like agenda to me. I’ve worn the tinfoil hat on the AP/71 relationship being an issue for the Skins, and this makes it seem even more true. Why would you make your best bench guy inactive before game one knowing that it’s going to cause a ton of tension? If this was the plan they should have cut him. Not a fan. It feels like a tank job. And this has nothing to do with Guice. I like Guice. I think he’ll do awesome. But having AP to spell him is a boon to our offense. Ill wait to see what happens before final judgement but upfront I’m not a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I still think it was an easy prediction. AP makes a 4th string RB salary, if those things are ever an indicator. When has Jay ever carried 2 1st and 2nd down only backs active on games days. I only recall last year conclusively. Yeah I know Perine is no AP but its not about them, its about flexibility, and what other position is going to be sacrificed for AP to (hopefully largely) stand on the sideline all day, as we allow Jay's vision of Guice dominating to be tested. Smallwood can be a backup kick returner. Heck he can start there. Backup 1st and 2nd down back. Backup hands back. Backup all down back. He may even be a backup guy on coverages, or maybe even start. AP did exactly one of those last year. To dress 4 backs, what position is going to be short one player over what Jay did last year. Dare I think carrying an extra OL makes sense since few want to see Haskins in vs Philly. We had no evidence that Jay was going to change his game day roster blueprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKskins Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Been waiting for this day since the draft. Guide was my massive draft crush. Love his story and he is a hell of a player. Can’t wait to see him suit up and smash the eagles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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