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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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Welcome to the Washington Redskins Derrius Guice RB LSU

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Welcome to the team DG, we're all looking forward to you showing us what you got!

 

Personally I kinda like a kid that's nuanced, someone that wears their heart on their sleeve at times, it just seems more real, more honest to me. He's faced some tough **** already, has some scars on his soul, that can make you see things a bit differently. Not sure how some expect him do lose his dad, grow up poor in the Bottom and not have some swagger and some mouth.

 

To me the big question is can he hold onto it, channel that anger and that passion into making a name for himself and representin' in the pros. So often that stands or falls on the people around you, what support and acceptance you get from your peers, and I expect he will find that here.

 

 

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6 hours ago, my_friend_goo said:

Having put low investment in the position since Portis, I'm excited to see how he pans out. The team has a tendency to steer clear of the troublemakers, so that should allay some fears about his character / history, but we'll see. 

 

Most importantly, can somebody help a guy out here? Is it pronounced "goose", "geese", "gyoose", "goo-ice"..?

 

Its pronounced "BALL - er". 

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http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/run-angry/

 

'RUN ANGRY'

His dad gunned down in a Denny's. His brother charged with attempted murder. What makes Derrius Guice, LSU's next superstar running back, even more enticing to NFL scouts than Leonard Fournette? He knows what he's running from. And he's never going to stop.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, LD0506 said:

To me the big question is can he hold onto it, channel that anger and that passion into making a name for himself and representin' in the pros.

 

To me the question is can he not cause drama and be a reliable pro?  I'm not bothered by a big personality if he is a worker and does his job.  But judging by the way this fanbase reacted to RGIII, that's not true for most.  Big personalities are not tolerated in football players unless they are Hall of Famers.  And then not always.

 

He seems like a nice kid and his extracurriculars are tame, but he's a bit of a liar and he has some hustler in him.  Survival mechanisms you develop when you have to spend a lot of your childhood finding food.  Growing up, I had a friend who came from an awful home life who was similarly charismatic and manipulative, Guice reminds me of him.  I wouldn't totally trust him, but I don't have to.  I just want him to work hard and be professional.  I like him and I want him to be successful.  I'd think the same if he were playing anywhere, even Philly or New York.

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Im going to to take alot of heat for this but someone needs to say it.

 

First & foremost lets get this out of the way, Guice is without question the most talented runningback we have had around here since Clinton Portis and if given a choice (Talent wise) between Guice or CP it would be Guice all day for me.

 

 Now lets talk about the ugly. Don't kid yourself for a second and think 31 other teams in the league didn't pass on this kid for a reason, The Redskins dont exactly have a history for doing intelligent things. There is a reason guys like Colin Capernick and Johnny Manziel are unemployed, Its not their talent its because they are cancer. Right now we don't have any facts, just a bunch of rumors, From Guice getting into a altercation with the Eagles during a interview to being immature and lazy in interviews, Yeah not good. Even Gruden described him as , and I quote " A character with alot of energy". My question to Gruden would be Like Terrell Owens in his prime "character with  energy"? Clinton Portis was a real character but NOT in a bad way,,, so who knows what he meant by that..

 

  If this kid has maturity issues on or off the field I'll tell you right now this was a wasted pick. We are not the patriots, we don't straighten out problem players or "characters" . As a matter of fact this is a place where head cases and ego's manifest into wasted picks, The most recent being Su Cravens & RG3.... One has to wonder did our coaches and GM make this call or was this another Dan Snyder must have new toy pick.

 

  Listen Im rooting for this kid, Nothing would make me happier than to see Slow Rob & Samaje "running in Place" Perine get out of the starting lineup. I think Guice is a rare talent and to be honest, I like him even more than Barkley. Who knows about the rumors and even if true look at Lagarrette Blount, he went undrafted because of "problems" and has had a pretty successful career. 

 

I think the reward of drafting the second best running back in the in the mid second round is worth the risk but you can't deny the cards are stacked against us, After all this is the Dan Snyder Washington Redskins.

 

HTTR

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If Doctson can take that year 3 step and Reed and Thompson can stay healthy, suddenly the offense is looking pretty good with the addition of Guice.

 

Here I go again, getting myself sucked into the Skins...

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It's going to be exciting to see what this young man can do at this level. It looks like we got a steal here. Hopefully, he will make a difference. Oh btw welcome to the Redskins!

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Guise just needs to be glad the Browns didn't pick him..lol

 

So I was on the road all day yesterday and didn't get home until after mid-night...now just looking at all the picks. The 3 RB before Guise had a lower grade (I usually don't pay attention to grade sometimes and look at actual footage instead). No wonder he is pissed. I would be too. 

 

Good thing the Bucs and them Lions didn't wanted him either. Oh well. :) 

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43 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

If Doctson can take that year 3 step and Reed and Thompson can stay healthy, suddenly the offense is looking pretty good with the addition of Guice.

 

Here I go again, getting myself sucked into the Skins...

I know. I'm loving this draft and it's really upsetting. 

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I don't follow much college football but from what I understand this guy should have been taken way before the Redskins picked 

Good job welcome to the team 

 

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I am so amped for this pick. I wanted a power big name running back that everyone will want to watch. I wanted Dalvin cook last year but Guice looks even better than him. He’s going to play angry. We haven’t picked a RB this high in so long so it’s definitly exciting. Guice is going to be sick.

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Schefter says the Lions traded up and took Kerryon Johnson right in front of us at 33. Good, I think we got a steal and they saved us from ourselves. I'd rather take the risk on whatever the rest of the league (and us apparently) were afraid of with Guice AND have that 3rd round OL than just have Kerryon Johnson at 44. 

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Terell Owens had serious issues.  But he loved to play the game of football.  

 

Guice looks like he REALLY loves to play football.  I mean really REALLY loves to play.  It's like nothing else matters in the world to him.  

 

So if there are some character issues, which I would imagine there are, he is first and foremost a player and lover of the game.  

 

A+ pick, and welcome to the 'Skins Guice.  

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2 hours ago, JoeJacobyHOForRIOT said:

There is a reason guys like Colin Capernick and Johnny Manziel are unemployed, Its not their talent its because they are cancer.

Colin Kaepernick is not a cancer and no players or coaches in his college or NFL career have indicated that BUT that is topic for another thread.

 

Guice has not had any issues either. If they were any legit stories don't ya they would be out right now.? Most of the time these stories come out before the player is drafted. Like with Cam Newton and Jameis Winston.

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8 minutes ago, beachboy757 said:

Guice has not had any issues either. If they were any legit stories don't ya they would be out right now.? Most of the time these stories come out before the player is drafted. Like with Cam Newton and Jameis Winston.

I'd like to agree, but isn't the stories being hidden basically what happened with Sua Cravens? I don't recall hearing any rumors about him when we drafted him.

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2 minutes ago, NickyJ said:

I'd like to agree, but isn't the stories being hidden basically what happened with Sua Cravens? I don't recall hearing any rumors about him when we drafted him.

I feel like we never got the complete story about Su'a in college.  Also, for me personally I would not consider walking away from football as a character issue.  He may have mental issues though. 

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The more I read about this guy and see his highlights on TV the more I think we possibly got a future star. Tons of talent.

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https://twitter.com/HogsHaven/status/990236098264780801

 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">From <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a> on Guice: &quot;He doesn&#39;t drink. He doesn&#39;t smoke. No criminal record. Just concern from teams he&#39;s &#39;high maintenance&#39;. Redskins had high first-round grade on him. Felt like they got a huge steal.&quot;</p>&mdash; Hogs Haven (@HogsHaven) <a href="https://twitter.com/HogsHaven/status/990236098264780801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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He really does remind of Portis the way he runs. If we get LG right, we could have a dominant run game 

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Every video I have seen of him just gave me a good feeling. He comes off as a very positive guy. Always smiling, has a good charisma. Obviously that's just based on the videos so who knows but for now, I totally love the guy.

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3 hours ago, seantaylor=god said:

Really cool interview where you can see some of his personality. He seems like an awesome dude. Reminds me of CP. Going to be a beast for us!

 

He reminds me of Portis too.  Or maybe Odell Beckam Jr.  He's a natural star and it would be very very good for our franchise if he panned out because he's got face of the franchise type of charisma.

 

His enthusiasm is winning me over.  He's a very energetic kid.  Really hoping he works out.

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