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      The home team fans are at home, these games no longer matter, and it’s probably better for the team to lose than it is to win.  It must be December in Washington.  Welcome to week 15!
       
      Redskins Inactive: 
      Colt McCoy  
      Trey Quinn 
      Quinton Dunbar  
      Josh Harvey-Clemons  
      Ross Pierschbacher  
      Brandon Scherff  
      Caleb Wilson  
       
      Eagles Inactive: 
      Nate Sudfeld  
      Nelson Agholor 
      Jordan Howard  
      Shareef Miller 
      Lane Johnson  
      Sua Opeta  
      Derek Barnet
       
      There are two camps for Redskins fans at this time of year.  Those that want to tank and those that want to win.  If this describes you, I want you to know something important. You’re wrong.  You should probably feel bad about it too, but that’s your business.  The right way to go about this, is simply to embrace the doublethink.  
       
      Before and after the game it’s perfectly reasonable to acknowledge that losing has its advantages.  It does and it is undeniable.  Afterall we could be talking about the difference between Chase Young being in a Redskins uniform, or not.  What we need for that to happen is simple.  Redskins lose out.  Giants beat the Dolphins and Redskins.  Dolphins beat the Bengals.  All of these things are perfectly reasonable outcomes.  We’re that close to having an elite pass rusher.   
       
      Before that happens, we have a game to play.  It is in this moment that we should embrace the other side of our demented doublethink.  While the game is being played, especially against a division opponent, fans should want their team to do well.  Assuming they have a soul and any decency.  There is just no way that I can root for the Eagles to beat the Redskins during a game.  If you are the type of fan that does this, I hope you find someone that can fix what has broken inside of you.   
       
      Pregame Prediction:  Redskins 23 – Eagles 30  
      More interesting game we are missing because we are still watching the Redskins:  Packers – Bears  
      Things I am snacking on:  Brownie.   
      Number of colons used:  Six.  (so far)  
       
      Check back for updates.  I’m going to wander around the room for a while and stretch my legs to get away from a certain well-known ESPN Eagle fan’s boring conversations that my ear phones aren’t blocking out entirely.
       
      1st Quarter Redskins 7 - 3 Eagles
      "The Closer" Haskins showed up for work early today and hit his former college teammate for a touchdown.  He really took the life out of this crowd in *checks notes* Fedex Field. 
       
      2nd Quarter Redskins 14 - 10 Eagles
      This quarter was defined by penalties.  The Redskins made the mistake of lightly hitting an Eagles tight end on the shoulder, and then another by tackling the Eagles QB around the waist.  Refs clearly didn't appreciate the Redskins playing football.
       
      This is the best half of football of Haskins pro career.  The Redskins passing offense as a whole has looked impressive, which... well it just shouldn't be.  Right?  Feels like a trap.  As soon as we start to feel good about it, BOOM they'll tear our hearts out. 
       
      I'll say this much though, Redskins receivers have been running around wide open throughout this first half.  The Redskins should have scored more than 14.
       
      Halftime:  If you had a choice between standing in a relatively long line for ice cream and cookies or nachos and hot dogs which would you choose?  I would go with ice cream.  Unfortunately I didn't realize there were two separate lines, and so I ended up with nachos and disappointment.  Also, I should probably mention Urban Meyer is here.  I bet he got the ice cream.   
       
      3rd Quarter Redskins 14 - 17 Eagles
      Wentz made a good throw, giving his team the lead, and it reminded me that Wentz was once a pretty good QB.  Hasn't looked like it often today.  The Eagles really haven't had a lot of open players for Wentz to throw to, but there is more to it than that.  Wentz looks slow. 
       
      Haskins has out played him through three quarters, and we haven't even reached Haskins best quarter. 
       
      4th Quarter Redskins 27 - 37 Eagles
      Some drunk Redskins fans sitting in front of the press box have recognized a Eagles fan that appears often on CNN and have started knocking on the glass to wave their hands and smile at him now the the Redskins have the lead.  These fans have apparently never learned not to tempt fate.
       
      Redskins defense played fairly well all game but picked the worst possible time to give up a long drive for a touchdown.  The Eagles offense came off the field with a four point lead and less than a minute left in the game.  The fumble return for a touchdown on the aborted hail marry attempt just added insult to injury.  Redskins come up short, for the eleventh time this season. 
       
      End of game thoughts.  Haskins actually looked like a real NFL QB for an entire NFL game.  Not just a drive here or there, but for an entire game Haskins looked like he belonged.  He looked like one of the reasons the Redskins might win the game.  He's shown flashes in the past but nothing like this.  A very encouraging sign for fans that believe he can be a part of the future here. 
       
      The Giants did their part to fall back in the draft, by absolutely dismantling the mighty Dolphins.  May the Giants be victorious, at least one more time this season.  We just need to lose to the Giants and have the Dolphins beat the Bengals, and the Redskins will be sitting alone at 3 wins.  Chase Young could happen.

       
       
       
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12 minutes ago, Chachie said:

 

 

I got no problem with a mean streak.

If memory serves me correctly, Trent Williams and Brandon sherff were both labeled as having a mean streak coming out of college as well.  100% on board with this.

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"The LSU product slid in the draft due to non-football related issues. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that sources describe Guice as "immature" and "high maintenance," noting some of his visits with teams did not go well. Rapoport added there were incidents in college that teams found out about that were not previously reported. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock added that there is another investigation that could potentially be embarrassing for Guice and the team that selected him."

 

What's this all about?

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12 minutes ago, FuriousD said:

"The LSU product slid in the draft due to non-football related issues. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that sources describe Guice as "immature" and "high maintenance," noting some of his visits with teams did not go well. Rapoport added there were incidents in college that teams found out about that were not previously reported. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock added that there is another investigation that could potentially be embarrassing for Guice and the team that selected him."

 

What's this all about?

Nothing. Its all just typical scout/agent pre draft garbage that amounts to mostly smoke but no fire.

 

I mean, he might be a little immature. But he's what, 22 years old? Who is totally mature at that age? Baker Mayfield was caught running from cops and was still taken #1.

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11 minutes ago, FuriousD said:

"The LSU product slid in the draft due to non-football related issues. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that sources describe Guice as "immature" and "high maintenance," noting some of his visits with teams did not go well. Rapoport added there were incidents in college that teams found out about that were not previously reported. NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock added that there is another investigation that could potentially be embarrassing for Guice and the team that selected him."

 

What's this all about?

Not entirely sure, but it’s about time we took a flyer on a dude in the draft at great value.  I’m all on board with the Guice pick.  

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Beast.


 

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On the opposite end of the spectrum, LSU product Derrius Guice faced a stacked box on an otherworldly 73 percent of his carries, by far most in the class. It didn't matter. Guice destroyed extra defensive attention in his sample of 95 collegiate carries, shredding opposing defenses for 5.88 Yards Created per attempt (third-best in the class). Guice is a bad, bad man and a classic throwback to a position that is transitioning evermore to space backs, receiving ability, and the subsequent mismatches running backs present in the passing game.


 


 

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PSU's offense is nearly all shotgun and spread based, while LSU's attack is still stuck in the 1980s with an overwhelming amount of blocking disadvantage placed on the running backs plate due to the archaic scheme. That was no matter for Derrius Guice. Hilariously, Guice led the class in 12- and 21-personnel usage, faced a stacked box on 67% of his runs out of those two packages, and still led the entire crop in Yards Created per attempt from 12- and 21-personnel (6.13).


 

 

https://www.fantasyguru.com/articles/yards-created-2018-stacked-boxes

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1 minute ago, Warhead36 said:

I mean, he might be a little immature. But he's what, 22 years old?

 

Guice is 20 years old.

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2 minutes ago, SkinsGuy said:

 

Guice is 20 years old.

Both him and Payne are 20 right. Can someone please slap me so I can k ni'm ownifnim dreaming or not. Did we really just kill this draft. I saw someone post earlier saying we wanted both Payne and Guice but we for real got both.... WOW

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Just now, HoggLife said:

Both him and Payne are 20 right. Can someone please slap me so I can k ni'm ownifnim dreaming or not. Did we really just kill this draft. I saw someone post earlier saying we wanted both Payne and Guice but we for real got both.... WOW

 

Yep, Payne is 20 years old, too.

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Does he run like Maurice Clarette? Anyone feel this way? 

 

Or or am I way off. 

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I have a feeling the league basically tried to blackball him in a way after he called out some of the stupid crap they were asking him in the interview process. Remember, this is the NFL were talking about. If you stand against the shield, you feel the wrath of god.

 

I'm not saying he doesn't have some maturity issues, I'm sure he does, after all he's 20 freaking years old. But most of this stuff is massively overblown. People calling him a psycopath LOL.

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I'm going to set aside the personality stuff and just comment on his talent here, because while I doubt it, I truly have no idea and no way to know if he's lazy, or a psycho. 

 

He is better than Leonard Fournette who went 4th overall last year. He was the #2 RB this year because Barkley is an absolute freak, but I'm not convinced that Guice isn't a better pure runner of the ball (with Barkley being more dynamic). I think he spent his entire college career underutilized in the receiving game and has unexplored chops there. 

 

This guy is a stud. So happy we got him, we haven't had transcendent talent like this on offense in a really long time. He is already a top-3 player on this team if his head and body are right. 

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I wonder what they asked him some players were asked if they mothers were prostitutes and others if they were gay.....

 

Guy prob got pissed and disrespected by some questions

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4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I have a feeling the league basically tried to blackball him in a way after he called out some of the stupid crap they were asking him in the interview process. Remember, this is the NFL were talking about. If you stand against the shield, you feel the wrath of god.

 

I'm not saying he doesn't have some maturity issues, I'm sure he does, after all he's 20 freaking years old. But most of this stuff is massively overblown. People calling him a psycopath LOL.

 

I absolutely agree with you. Guice was just taken after a well-publicized fall by one of the most disliked owners in all of sports. If there was an embarrassing story brewing that was about to break, I have to think it would have already.

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The NFL said he lied about being asked that question, but remember Dez Bryant was asked something similar several years ago, and many guys in recent years have come out and said they were asked some ridiculous questions during the pre draft process, so its not out of the realm of possibility.

 

Remember, this is the same NFL that suspended Tom Brady four games even though they had no proof he was involved in the deflating of footballs. The same NFL that basically conspired to blackball Colin Kaepernick.

 

When you stand against the shield, you suffer the consequences. THAT's what happened to Guice. He's not a bad guy or cancer or any of that crap. He just made the mistake of going up against the shield.

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I heard Derrius was going to stay with Bruce at his house until he gets on his feet. 

 

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14 minutes ago, ConnSKINS26 said:

I'm going to set aside the personality stuff and just comment on his talent here, because while I doubt it, I truly have no idea and no way to know if he's lazy, or a psycho. 

 

...said Bobby Beathard, 5 mins before drafting Ryan Leaf! :headbang:

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Whatever.... I'm glad he fell in our lap. Even if any of it is true, RB is a position where you can still succeed and be a bit of a knucklehead.  Not true with QBs...

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37 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I have a feeling the league basically tried to blackball him in a way after he called out some of the stupid crap they were asking him in the interview process. Remember, this is the NFL were talking about. If you stand against the shield, you feel the wrath of god.

 

I'm not saying he doesn't have some maturity issues, I'm sure he does, after all he's 20 freaking years old. But most of this stuff is massively overblown. People calling him a psycopath LOL.

 

Who called him a psychopath

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Love the pick. And props to the person who posted the tweet considering Scot; won't lie, that made me happy to see.

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Am I the only one who keeps pronouncing his name "juice" by mistake? 

I gotta get that out of my head before it sticks. 

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His Dad was murdered when he was 6, and his older brother has been in and out of jail.

They call him "immature", but I think he turned out okay for a guy with no male figure in his life.

 

https://heavy.com/sports/2018/03/derrius-guice-draft-projection-stats-combine-gay/

 

In December, Guice got word that a very sweet little girl named Alexis Palermo wished for something very special this past Christmas. Alexis wrote a letter to Santa, telling him that she is a huge fan of LSU football and that Derrius Guice is her favorite player, “by far.” The only thing that Alexis told Santa that she wanted for Christmas was an autographed football.



“I’m crying right now as a type this message on the way back home from New Orleans finally meeting Alexis and personally delivering her Christmas gift! I never in a million years from south Baton Rouge ever expected to be a 10 year old’s Christmas gift! You really opened my eyes little sister! Love you and had a great time hanging with you and your family,” Guice posted on Instagram on Christmas Day.

 

 

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Read this article. I honestly think this was a freak turn of events and we got a huge steal for no reason. 

 

The Eagles were on the phone with him and ready to take him at 32 last night, and then the Ravens sent them an offer they couldn't refuse for the right to draft Lamar Jackson.

 

Then the rumors boiled up over night and it seems like teams all freaked themselves out over nothing assuming as a group that the further he fell, the worse his situation was and surely SOMEONE smart knew what was wrong with him. Almost exactly like that dumb movie Draft Day. 

 

http://amp.profootballweekly.com/2018/04/28/derrius-guice-waited-until-round-2-to-get-drafted-despite-a-team-calling-him-late-in-round-1/acwfkey/?__twitter_impression=true

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