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AsburySkinsFan Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Why is it that the ONLY people in the room that are calling Trump a moral person are the “Christian” leaders who should be the ones holding him accountable? Oh that’s right, it’s because in order to maintain their proximity to power and influence they need to sell the lie of Trump’s morality to their cultists. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 8:35 AM, AsburySkinsFan said: Why is it that the ONLY people in the room that are calling Trump a moral person are the “Christian” leaders who should be the ones holding him accountable? Oh that’s right, it’s because in order to maintain their proximity to power and influence they need to sell the lie of Trump’s morality to their cultists. Trump is a useful idiot They are interested in establishing Christian Fascism. That is what this is all about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 4 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Trump is a useful idiot They are interested in establishing Christian Fascism. That is what this is all about. Oh I totally agree, and it’s why impeaching Trump solves nothing, because Pence is the energy behind ALL of that movement. These religious fascists want nothing more than to codify into law their religious beliefs and bigotry. It’s amazing to me that people who will preach passages about being free in Christ are the first to demand that everyone must follow their religious faith commitments. They are the same ones who will scream about the Constitution and their freedom to practice their religion but what these evil Pharisees really mean is that they should be free to practice their religion and they should be able to force everyone else to adhere to their religious commitments while not the other way around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 According to Bill Leonard, professor of church history at Wake Forest University, North Carolina, the context to white evangelicals hitching their wagon to Trump is “panic at the precipitous decline of Christianity” in US society. Polls show a drop in the proportion of white evangelicals from a peak in the 1990s of around 27% of the population to between 17% and 13%now, alongside a significant rise in religious pluralism and those – particularly young people – who say they have no religion. I’ve said this for years, the white Christian privildge will not go quitely into the night, they are threatened, and this is about the same type of struggle that South Africa faced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 5 hours ago, AsburySkinsFan said: I’ve said this for years, the white Christian privildge will not go quitely into the night, they are threatened, and this is about the same type of struggle that South Africa faced. Much like the GOP, I'm ready for the current religious class to be gone (yes, I know they aren't all bad). Many of the things they are supposed to be for, I don't have much issue with. But they don't really follow any of that (Love Thy Neighbor anyone?). As a devout atheist who sent to Catholic school for a bit, I always describe religion as being like the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. They are stories who teach children good lessons. But I don't think they literally happened. I just wish they would focus on the lessons that make you a better person. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 18 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Much like the GOP, I'm ready for the current religious class to be gone (yes, I know they aren't all bad). Many of the things they are supposed to be for, I don't have much issue with. But they don't really follow any of that (Love Thy Neighbor anyone?). As a devout atheist who sent to Catholic school for a bit, I always describe religion as being like the story of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. They are stories who teach children good lessons. But I don't think they literally happened. I just wish they would focus on the lessons that make you a better person. I’ve come a long way in my journey but the most distressing this to me is this cognitive dissonance between what they say are their faith commitments, and what they are actively supporting and the lives they actually live. For me, it just got to the point where it was just getting worse, I haven’t been back in nearly five years so I have not been in the heart of this toxicity. That said, I’m surrounded by it in my daily life. This toxicity is a major concern to many of my clergy friends who were already struggling with generationally low attendance and participation, now to have their gray haired dominated churches to become so inwardly focused and married to racial nationalism is only serving to drive people away. Which, oddly enough becomes a self perpetuating problem where the church members are watching their life and culture die off and they are so desperate and scared that they are becoming the very thing that is destroying what they say they love. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PeterMP Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 59 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: If that's not a joke or somebody who is actually anti-Christian intentionally trying to ruin Christianity, that's awful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Tell me, why in the hell I should believe what the Evangelicals have to say on just about anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AsburySkinsFan Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 My mother-in-law (yes THAT one) and I were discussing this the other day, at one point in discussing Evangelical support for a brothel owner I looked at her and said, “If there is a god up there you’d be hard-pressed to find his people.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 37 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: My mother-in-law (yes THAT one) and I were discussing this the other day, at one point in discussing Evangelical support for a brothel owner I looked at her and said, “If there is a god up there you’d be hard-pressed to find his people.” It appears that God actually smote that guy. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dennis-hof-bunny-ranch-brothel-owner-found-dead/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 20 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said: It appears that God actually smote that guy. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dennis-hof-bunny-ranch-brothel-owner-found-dead/ ....and the Evangelicals STILL voted for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/5/2018 at 1:10 PM, PeterMP said: If that's not a joke or somebody who is actually anti-Christian intentionally trying to ruin Christianity, that's awful. How are ya even supposed to tell the difference anymore? The feral Xtians have been a caricature of themselves, they aren't even subject to sarcasm or hyperbole. And I love it One of the great things that might result from this current nightmare would be to see that centuries old mental infection lanced and finally start to heal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mcsluggo Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 what are the odds that when trump hits his inevitable disgraceful fall, and is no longer useful to them ... that evangelicals all behave as if they ALWAYS found him repugnant? ( you know.... how George W Bush wasn't actually a "true" conservative to any republican who discussed him in 2010.... 2021: Trump (the false prophet), blamed for all ills 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 20 minutes ago, mcsluggo said: what are the odds that when trump hits his inevitable disgraceful fall, and is no longer useful to them ... that evangelicals all behave as if they ALWAYS found him repugnant? ( you know.... how George W Bush wasn't actually a "true" conservative to any republican who discussed him in 2010.... 2021: Trump (the false prophet), blamed for all ills I can already envision twa hammering away at his keyboard, labeling Trump a NYC Democrat. Although predators, racists and sexists, who constitute a sizeable portion of the GOP base, have never quite had a champion like Trump. Bush never molded the right into his ideological vision as Trump has. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 6 hours ago, No Excuses said: I can already envision twa hammering away at his keyboard, labeling Trump a NYC Democrat. Although predators, racists and sexists, who constitute a sizeable portion of the GOP base, have never quite had a champion like Trump. Bush never molded the right into his ideological vision as Trump has. Oh they will absolutely claim Trump was never a REAL Conservative, they’ll point to his deficit spending and then they’ll claim that Conservatism still works, it’s just never been fully realized because all we’ve seen are corruptions of it therefore we should still try it, rather than facing reality that there is no such thing as Conservatism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 hours ago, No Excuses said: I can already envision twa hammering away at his keyboard, labeling Trump a NYC Democrat. Although predators, racists and sexists, who constitute a sizeable portion of the GOP base, have never quite had a champion like Trump. Bush never molded the right into his ideological vision as Trump has. I did that already and Trump is certainly not a conservative as I know them. I still love W despite his issues and Yankee upbringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 8:07 AM, twa said: I did that already and Trump is certainly not a conservative as I know them. Next, you’ll be saying the crowds were actually chanting “Lock him up, lock him up!” because the GOP base all knew he was a crook. They just had problems with their pronouns.🙄🙄 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, The Sisko said: Next, you’ll be saying the crowds were actually chanting “Lock him up, lock him up!” because the GOP base all knew he was a crook. They just had problems with their pronouns.🙄🙄 you going to vote for him again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Jerry Falwell and a pool boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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