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is Trumpism helping or harming the position of Christianity in America?

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34 minutes ago, twa said:

 

Probably that judge not one , give em a inch and next they want a king.

 

I love when the offenders are the ones telling others not to judge them. Why is it the guilty are always the ones complaining about being condemned?

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24 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

I love when the offenders are the ones telling others not to judge them. Why is it the guilty are always the ones complaining about being condemned?

 

I take it the verses didn't apply to you?

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:806::806::806:

 

good product demo xtians :P

 

ah, humanity and it's head noises (of which religion and politics are two of the most splendiferous)

 

 

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37 minutes ago, twa said:

 

I take it the verses didn't apply to you?

That passage doesn't mean what you want it to mean. You'll lose track trying to count how many passages speak about knowing them by their works, fruit etc. Calling an apple tree an apple tree is not against Christian teaching. So feel free to try and sell that amateur Bible scholar crap somewhere else.

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When people argue with Asbury about religion:

 

Image result for biblical hammer

 

Yes, I am a heretic.  A proud one. :silly:

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22 minutes ago, Jumbo said:

:806::806::806:

 

good product demo xtians :P

 

ah, humanity and it's head noises (of which religion and politics are two of the most splendiferous)

 

 

You know, if American Christianity was even neutral then the numbers would be even...as it is they are flipped from what we are meant to understand about Xians. What's that say about the religion?

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Just now, AsburySkinsFan said:

Yup...that ones rotten.

 

So it does mean what I said.

4 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

When people argue with Asbury about religion:

 

 

Yes, I am a heretic.  A proud one. :silly:

 

 

Is he the one nailing the Word to the cross? 

 

Pics are so interpretive.

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4 minutes ago, twa said:

 

So it does mean what I said.

 

 

Is he the one nailing the Word to the cross? 

 

Pics are so interpretive.

 

So are your half-sentences. 

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2 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

Oh I thought it was for general consumption.

 

It is, if you are hungry.

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One of Lucas' church members, Dianne Cook, 69, said she agrees with the message on her church sign, and with her pastor. She said Trump was right to criticize the four Democratic congresswomen, who include the first two Muslim women elected to Congress.

"Where'd their parents come from? Are they Americans?" Cook asked. "Just because she was born in America does not make her American."

"Doesn't it?" I asked. "Doesn't it legally, though, under the Constitution?"

"Under the Constitution, yes," Cook acknowledged, then paused. "But I don't know how to express that, to make you understand that I wish she, I wish they, well — I don't want any Muslims in America."

 

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/12/749410060/in-virginia-2-churches-feel-the-aftermath-of-trumps-racist-rhetoric?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr

 

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During the service, he mentioned the recent mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, that left 22 people dead. But afterward, he said he doesn't believe news reports that the white shooter was targeting Latinos. Lucas also said he does not believe analyses suggesting that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than others living in the United States.

 

"We're not racist, but here's a laundry list of racist and bigoted beliefs that we have, no matter the evidence presented right in front of us".

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""Under the Constitution, yes," Cook acknowledged, then paused. "But I don't know how to express that, to make you understand that I wish she, I wish they, well — I don't want any Muslims in America."

 

They ain't white

They ain't Christian

Then they ain't 'Murican

 

Hey, give these people a break, they're only about 4 generations removed from actually owning the people that they have to be equals with, and they had to put up with the Wops, Dago, *******, and Chinks, it really is a lot to ask for them to accept Wetbacks and Muslims.

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You all need to watch that new Netflix docu-series, "The Family."  I wrote it in the tv series thread, but that was probably the wrong place.  That series is like catnip for you guys.  It's got Trump (4th episode).  It's got Christianity.  It's got secret societies.  It's got some homoerotic kinda stuff.  It's got conservatives and liberals praising Jesus.  So, ya know...I thought of you guys.  :) 

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2 hours ago, No Excuses said:

https://www.npr.org/2019/08/12/749410060/in-virginia-2-churches-feel-the-aftermath-of-trumps-racist-rhetoric?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_term=nprnews&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr

"We're not racist, but here's a laundry list of racist and bigoted beliefs that we have, no matter the evidence presented right in front of us".

I'm positive she would say Ilhan Omar is anti-semantic with no sense of irony.

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2 hours ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

Hey, give these people a break, they're only about 4 generations removed from actually owning the people that they have to be equals with, and they had to put up with the Wops, Dago, *******, and Chinks, it really is a lot to ask for them to accept Wetbacks and Muslims.

 

But we don;t want the Irish!  (Movie reference)  

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*White evangelicals

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Interviews with 50 evangelical Christians in three battleground states — Florida, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — help explain why. In conversation, evangelical voters paint the portrait of the Trump they see: a president who acts like a bully but is fighting for them. A president who sees America like they do, a menacing place where white Christians feel mocked and threatened for their beliefs. A president who’s against abortion and gay rights and who has the economy humming to boot.

 

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4 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

*White evangelicals

 

 

 

TL;DR:  Evangelicals do not care about Trump being a thrice married adulterer (with porn actresses), a hateful vulgarian, and not Christian in any substantive way.

 

They DO care about other people's sexual identities and practices.  

 

Not a group I'd want to associate with.  

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21 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Not a group I'd want to associate with.   

 

There is hardly anyone in the GOP tent who any decent person would want to associate themselves with. Every sensible conservative I know in the DMV left the GOP in 2016. My only Trumpian contacts are now family members who I have to reluctantly mingle with at family gatherings.

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