Voice_of_Reason Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: Agree on that. That was the case his first year and he acknowledged that and turned to McVay. Then Somehow when McVay left, he took the job back, like he had no real trust in Cavanaugh doing it. Which is weird... Also, I do believe there's too many voices in his ears when it comes to offensive gameplan. You had: - Callahan for running plays. - O'Connell for passing plays. - Cavanaugh as OC. - Jay as HC. That's 3 too much here. Put O'Connell as OC, and let him do his thing and that's it. No more X, Y or Z taking part of the gameplan it justs confuses everyone and in the end it looks like you're conducting a gameplan to please everyone... I’ve been saying this for 2 years. You need 1 OC who coordinates (hey that’s part of the title!) the offense, making sure each component helps the next. The problem is we call plays. Not games. Complete lack of situational awareness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins island connection Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said: If they hire an honest to God DC, and preferably a good OC, I would be interested to see how Jay could do. One of my (many) criticisms I have of Jay is he tries to do too much and sub optimizes everything. Maybe if he was just the HC and not the OC/Playcaller as well he’d do better. I’d be interest to see how that plays out. Im not particularly interested in seeing the 3rd act of Jay/Manusky/Callahan/Cavanaugh though. I'm not so sure that things will get better next year. Yes, there is a dire need for some fresh blood as OC; Jay has hit a wall with schemes and play calling, to the degree that he's become predictable in 3rd down situations. To make matters worse, he may have Alex Smith back, and if that's the case we can all expect to see the team nickel and diming their way down field, 5-8 yds at a time. The problem with that is defenses will pick up on it quickly and shut down the short game [ as they did this year with Smith ] and dare Smith to throw deep, which he refuses to do. So its gonna be a challenge on figuring out who to point the finger at next season, because I don't expect this team to do much of anything [ given the talent ] and then it will be a repeat of last year; an injury here and there, sluggish offense, defense that becomes tired out from being on the field so much, then more injuries, and eventually the team collapsing, causing the fans to really bring out the pitchforks and torches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 54 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said: The problem is we call plays. Not games. Complete lack of situational awareness. Running on 1st down is ALWAYS appropriate. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Peregrine said: Yes, it was definitely impressive going 1-6 down the stretch, and going 7-9 including incredibly lucky wins against the Cowboys and Bucs. Whats even more impressive is the history breaking blowouts against the Giants, Eagles, Falcons, Saints, Colts etc! Also, its even more impressive that all of this was done thanks to one of the most amazing seasons by a player the Redskins didnt even want on the roster at the start of the season, AP, which if they had their way and played the season with their original plans, the team likely would have been 5-11 without. Most impressive work there by a true master. I mean I can spew nonsense, and ignore context as well.... but just sticking with reality. Bill Bellichek wasn't going to have a winning season here with the combo of injuries and pieces he had to use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, MassSkinsFan said: Running on 1st down is ALWAYS appropriate. 🙄 In the Tenn game I swear somebody in the coaching box was monitoring our game day thread and was telling Gruden so he could totally punk me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins199021 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I just think its hilarious that people will bring up his record in the last 7 games with Sanchez and Josh Johnson leading they way, he didn't pick those guys for the roster. Bruce Allen loves all the people so worked up about firing Gruden, he LOVES it, because it ignores the root problem..... him and Snyder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyjohnson Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I think it’s a disgrace to leave Jay hanging like this! Say what you want about his coaching but at least he’s here! Where the hell our are two leaders! Why do they never speak. What crazy person would want to come here and coach. Absolute disgrace to be gone at this time of year, with the finish we had, the turmoil, no leadership around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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veteranskinsfan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Just heard on the Team 980 that Jay Gruden will be back next year as Head Coach. Also heard our owner is getting a new yacht in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said: Just heard on the Team 980 that Jay Gruden will be back next year as Head Coach. Also heard our owner is getting a new yacht in 2019. Maybe he’s planning on having the games on the yacht so he doesn’t have to worry about ticket sales Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, veteranskinsfan said: Just heard on the Team 980 that Jay Gruden will be back next year as Head Coach. Also heard our owner is getting a new yacht in 2019. Nothing says SB like a new yacht for the team owner!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrshadow008 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, goskins10 said: Nothing says SB like a new yacht for the team owner!! The franchise isn’t but dan is winning off the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Well. Grudens coming back. How about we start getting a defensive coordinator in here and fire manusky? **** him he’s awful. Also, get an actual playcaller. Please. And fire the strength & conditioning staff. At least to see if new changes help keep injuries down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dyst Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 If Bruce is back, then there is no point to probably bring in a new coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I know a lot of folks aren’t that high on Jay, but remember this...He was able to drag mega-chump Kirk Cousins to the playoffs. Thats gotta count for something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 43 minutes ago, dyst said: If Bruce is back, then there is no point to probably bring in a new coach. Exactly. And there's too many opportunities around the NFL to attract someone really worth it. We aren't a sexy opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 God...I HOPE he has learned (like he did with 36) to hold people accountable. Quit being their friend. Practice like you intend to play. Get a Greg William clone if you can't get him. That and ley someone else call your plays. You don't process fast enough. Teach someone your system and stand back and let them run it. Be your creative self on any day but Sundays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csup Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 hour ago, veteranskinsfan said: Just heard on the Team 980 that Jay Gruden will be back next year as Head Coach. Also heard our owner is getting a new yacht in 2019. Wonder if I can be hired on as a Bosuns mate? Then mutiny and throw the SOB overboard?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Boooooooooo. Nothing says success like bringing back your 5 year head coach that made the playoffs 1 time and then got crushed in the 1st round of the playoffs. And when that 1 time was a poor 5-7 season in the worst division in football, rescued due to some amazing QB play over the last 4 games under Sean McVays offense, with 4 consecutive 300 yard games and a 13-1 TD to INT ratio. But we all knew this was going to happen because to fire Gruden is to fire Allen, and thats never going to happen. 44 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said: I know a lot of folks aren’t that high on Jay, but remember this...He was able to drag mega-chump Kirk Cousins to the playoffs. Thats gotta count for something! Wrong, Sean McVay got Kirk Cousins to drag Jay to the playoffs. 2015, look it up, and look up the play after we were 5-7. How bad of a coach must you be where Kirk Cousins has to rescue you for your 1 playoff appearance in 5 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 So why is everyone saying Callahan won't be back. Of all the Redskins coaching staff I'd rank him at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, nonniey said: So why is everyone saying Callahan won't be back. Of all the Redskins coaching staff I'd rank him at the top. Probably because other teams rate him just as highly lol. He could be in line for an OC job again, or just coaching a team that isn't always on the verge of a meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Jay’s job was safe the moment the Bengals fired Marvin Lewis. He would have got that job or been the OC for his bro, all while still collecting Danny’s money. And God knows who would have come here to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, nonniey said: So why is everyone saying Callahan won't be back. Of all the Redskins coaching staff I'd rank him at the top. I believe the feeling is both that his style and Gruden's haven't meshed well and that he seems sick of the circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bh32 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 It's probably best that Callahan moves on..I think a lot of issues with the offense running on first down most of the time are coming from Callahan..Just too many people involved with the game plan and what plays are called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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