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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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NFL.com: Kirk Cousins tops biggest contracts (Special rule---you can refer to the Redskins in this thread---M.E.T.)

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I just realized what truly bothered me about this quote from Kirk...he separates himself from his teammates and comes across as feeling superior in a way. They may not be gay, but they have sins, but they can help us win, and I can love them and help them. That aspect of his personality HAS to be registering with other players, I would imagine. Comes across completely different if he says "We all have our sins, and none of us are perfect...but each one of us can use our given talents to help the team win, and learn and grow from one another."

 

(mods, this is not meant at all to be a post about religion, just a post about Cousins' personality and perspective on himself and his possible disconnect with the team)

 

 

 

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I'm really starting to think Kirk likes the sound of his own voice. Why even bring that up? If there's one think I can't stand even more than virtue-signaling and white-knighting, it's doing it from the pulpit.

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18 minutes ago, ntotoro said:

I'm really starting to think Kirk likes the sound of his own voice. Why even bring that up? If there's one think I can't stand even more than virtue-signaling and white-knighting, it's doing it from the pulpit.

 

To be fair, I think this was said back when that one openly gay player was drafted by the Rams, was it?...It was the topic of the day and he may have been asked about it. Regardless (for me anyway), i got a vibe of him separating himself from his teammates. Some Vikings talking heads on the radio mentioned how Kirk made some comment last year about promising his HS coach (or someone) about promising to keep his body tattoo-free...and was proud that he was. Since like 90% of the players on the Vikings have tattoos that comment didn't go over well with them.

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1 minute ago, Califan007 said:

 

To be fair, I think this was said back when that one openly gay player was drafted by the Rams, was it?...It was the topic of the day and he may have been asked about it. Regardless (for me anyway), i got a vibe of him separating himself from his teammates. Some Vikings talking heads on the radio mentioned how Kirk made some comment last year about promising his HS coach (or someone) about promising to keep his body tattoo-free...and was proud that he was. Since like 90% of the players on the Vikings have tattoos that comment didn't go over well with them.

 

He reaaallllllly seems to think his fecal matter has no odor LOL!!!!

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16 hours ago, Nerm said:

Interesting scenario if the Vikes really want to move on from Kirk after this season.  I wondered about a swap with the 49rs if Garopalo(sp?) struggled this year, but they are doing well with him currently.

 

I would predict they try a partial buyout and/or trade if it becomes clear that they have to make a change.

I bet the Dolphins can do this. I haven't looked at their salary cap, but they've wiped every good player on the team out. If they do a Browns, they can swallow Kirk's contract with some draft picks to help it down. Sucks for Rosen, but at this point he's just a glorified door mat for franchises to wipe their dirty shoes on.

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35 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Kirk has a no-trade clause.

Dang, Kirk didn't fool around. On the plus side, he also had a $500k bonus for winning the Super Bowl. At least they save some money there.

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43 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

Kirk has a no-trade clause.

 

How but a no cut-clause? On that video I posted above about the rant, the guys on that show are saying to cut Kirk after this season. 

 

 

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I have to admit, this has been fun and good, saying he fleeced the Vikings, etcetera and so on... and it’s all true... but I’m really just starting to dislike him as an individual of late.

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oh, just remember the Vikings fans when they were trying to sign him.

 

 

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6 hours ago, ntotoro said:

I have to admit, this has been fun and good, saying he fleeced the Vikings, etcetera and so on... and it’s all true... but I’m really just starting to dislike him as an individual of late.

 

Join us. We are many. 

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2 minutes ago, Llevron said:

 

Join us. We are many. 

 

Oh, I've been on-record many, many, many times in this very thread jonin' on him... just didn't feel personal until now. Now I just really dislike his character as an individual and a man, not just a QB.

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1 minute ago, ntotoro said:

 

Oh, I've been on-record many, many, many times in this very thread jonin' on him... just didn't feel personal until now. Now I just really dislike his character as an individual and a man, not just a QB.

 

A few of yall are gonna call me crazy but I KNEW the minute RG3 ran that 70 something yard QB keeper in for a TD against the Vikings in 2012 something was up with dude. Literally the entire team is off the bench yelling and cheering for their teammate helping them win and making plays was THAT guy. And he was a rookie! If I was in the NFL on a squad I would at least fake being excited about a big play. Dude had a scowl. Says something when you cant even fake it with the rest of the guys. 

 

*insults to my character incoming* 

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Man, if he uncorks a 150 yard 2 fumble job against the Giants this week, ****s gonna get extra real up in Minnesota.

 

But, really...this is exactly the type of game where Kirk tends to shine.

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On 10/1/2019 at 11:15 AM, Califan007 said:

 

To be fair, I think this was said back when that one openly gay player was drafted by the Rams, was it?...It was the topic of the day and he may have been asked about it. Regardless (for me anyway), i got a vibe of him separating himself from his teammates. Some Vikings talking heads on the radio mentioned how Kirk made some comment last year about promising his HS coach (or someone) about promising to keep his body tattoo-free...and was proud that he was. Since like 90% of the players on the Vikings have tattoos that comment didn't go over well with them.

 

Remember how we criticized the way Brunell would talk about team mistakes or performance issues and his team and how that seemed to transfer to Campbell?  

 

I've never liked it when QBs avoided or minimized saying "I" when talking about performing poorly but say "we" when their ass got bailed out by their defense or running back.

 

I know Joe believed in Brunell but it always rubbed me the wrong way and I don't think great leaders at the QB position have this divide.  Sure, maybe in their mind, but publicly they know how to reassure the rest of the team that they are all in it together and if the team fails, the QB will publicly take the heat (sort of like the coach.)

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A few of yall are gonna call me crazy but I KNEW the minute RG3 ran that 70 something yard QB keeper in for a TD against the Vikings in 2012 something was up with dude. Literally the entire team is off the bench yelling and cheering for their teammate helping them win and making plays was THAT guy. And he was a rookie! If I was in the NFL on a squad I would at least fake being excited about a big play. Dude had a scowl. Says something when you cant even fake it with the rest of the guys. 

 

*insults to my character incoming* 

I didn't want to believe it at the time, I thought maybe he was just caught off guard or distracted but...

 

As for Kirk Cousins, I don't want to hate the man. It might be that he's awkward and shouldn't be in a leadership position but that he's generally a nice person.  Who knows!? But I'll say he falls short of the mark his faith sets for him, I believe.  

 

I was upset with the Vikings not keeping Keenum, it was a big mistake.  

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The thing with Kirk is he comes off a little calculated in his "nice guy" public persona.  He could perfectly well be a swell guy most of the time, but man did he ever lay it on thick to help the sell job for that contract.  Kudos to him I guess, it worked.

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