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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
Burgold

Redskins receiving corp is beginning to shape up

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8 hours ago, kingdaddy said:

Why do I get the impression that Doc just doesn't have the heart or burning desire to tear it up in the NFL? I just don't see the fire inside....

 

Eh, I dunno man.  I mean, we love to see guys do the Ray Lewis dance, spike the football, make the first down sign, yell, scream...if guys are quiet, workmanlike...that doesn't always come across as having fire or passion.

 

It's hard to say who has heart and burning desire.  We all like to think we know who does but just because some guys aren't super demonstrative doesn't mean we know who is.  I think we all thought Sua Cravens was some amazingly intense football beast when we drafted him.  Yeah, we were all wrong on that one.

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Quinn and Richardson are injured??

 

Lets say both start the year in IR.  Hardly a stretch, I know. 
 

Doctson McClaurin Kidsy

Sims Harmon/Quick/Davis

 

Sims seems a lock since he made the 53 last year.  I think Richardson out cements a spot for Doctson - need a vet thing.  2 years ago Ike said Quick had the best camp of all the WRs - as we drooled over everyone BUT him.  I think Quick plays teams which should never be overlooked when projecting a 5/6.  I hope Harmon plays teams as I want last years attempt at a youth movement continued.  Davis just seems the odd man out at this point.

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9 hours ago, kingdaddy said:

Why do I get the impression that Doc just doesn't have the heart or burning desire to tear it up in the NFL? I just don't see the fire inside....

Marvin Harrison is one of the best receivers to play but he was a quiet guy, just depends on the personality. I dont think Doctson being a quiet reserved guy says anything about his desire or lack there of. He just may not be good enough.

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13 hours ago, kingdaddy said:

Why do I get the impression that Doc just doesn't have the heart or burning desire to tear it up in the NFL? I just don't see the fire inside....

 

Amen

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Richardson being injured or just hurt is no shocker.  What exactly is wrong with Quinn and is it severe enough to be worried when it comes to Week 1?  I liked what I saw from him last season in very limited snaps.

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3 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

Richardson being injured or just hurt is no shocker.  What exactly is wrong with Quinn and is it severe enough to be worried when it comes to Week 1?  I liked what I saw from him last season in very limited snaps.

 

He just tweaked his thumb, he should be fine for week 1. 

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7 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

 

Eh, I dunno man.  I mean, we love to see guys do the Ray Lewis dance, spike the football, make the first down sign, yell, scream...if guys are quiet, workmanlike...that doesn't always come across as having fire or passion.

 

It's hard to say who has heart and burning desire.  We all like to think we know who does but just because some guys aren't super demonstrative doesn't mean we know who is.  I think we all thought Sua Cravens was some amazingly intense football beast when we drafted him.  Yeah, we were all wrong on that one.

I hear your point but it would be nice to see something more out of Doctson. How bout some quotes about getting the ball more, pushing the others as a leader, or showing something that demonstrates how much he cares and wants to win? Kirk Cousins had the "you like that" quote cause he was pissed off, I'd love to see Doctson catch a pass and get up and show some fire by yelling "throw me the damn ball!" Give us some Keyshawn or something close. Keyshawn went out and jacked up Justin Bieber for speeding through his neighborhood....maybe Doc could get in one of the Jonas brothers faces? Something that shows he has some kind of tude inside him....I need to see some fire on the field out of Doc.

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3 minutes ago, kingdaddy said:

I hear your point but it would be nice to see something more out of Doctson. How bout some quotes about getting the ball more, pushing the others as a leader, or showing something that demonstrates how much he cares and wants to win? Kirk Cousins had the "you like that" quote cause he was pissed off, I'd love to see Doctson catch a pass and get up and show some fire by yelling "throw me the damn ball!" Give us some Keyshawn or something close. Keyshawn went out and jacked up Justin Bieber for speeding through his neighborhood....maybe Doc could get in one of the Jonas brothers faces? Something that shows he has some kind of tude inside him....I need to see some fire on the field out of Doc.

 

I don't necessarily disagree.  But I think he cares.  IIRC, last year dude cut off the back of his cleats and wrapped them so he could play, his feet were killing him.  

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Hoffman's take today:

 

He thinks Harmon is a lock.  Doctson likely makes it but its not 100%.  He thinks Cam Sims is a lock and might challenge for a starting position.  He thinks Steve Sims might sneak on to the roster (if they include 7 receivers) to back up Quinn at slot.   

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8 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Hoffman's take today:

 

He thinks Harmon is a lock.  Doctson likely makes it but its not 100%.  He thinks Cam Sims is a lock and might challenge for a starting position.  He thinks Steve Sims might sneak on to the roster (if they include 7 receivers) to back up Quinn at slot.   

So maybe the roster battle we should be watching is Josh Doctson vs Robert Davis, with a chance for Steve Sims either way. 

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8 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said:

I don't think Doctson played at all tonight.

Was he a healthy scratch ?

Can we read anything into that ?

 

Doctson played and was targeted once. 

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Where are all these WRs I've been hearing so many good things about from camp and practice. I have yet to see any of them get a catch. 

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6 minutes ago, desertbeagle85 said:

Where are all these WRs I've been hearing so many good things about from camp and practice. I have yet to see any of them get a catch. 

 

Robert Davis has had both a good camp and a good 2 Preseason games.

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Robert Davis is the one standing out now. He looked like he had potential last year too until the injury.  How much did T-Mac play tonight? Barely heard his name at all.

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Alright, grab the lotion.

 

I got to talk to Lake Lewis before the game today, if you don't know him he's a writer/reporter and he's been covering the team for 7 years now...a really good, down to earth dude. I asked him about McLaurin, he said that they are through the roof about him.  He can play all three receiver positions and they'll be planning on moving him around to keep defenses guessing.  He said he was surprised at how big he is.  Garcon was actually a decent sized receiver.  Not a big towering guy, but powerfully built and with the pads on, Lewis says they look to have a similar physicality.  McLaurin is listed at 6'0, 208 and Garcon is listed at 6'0, 211.  

 

Lewis went on to say that McLaurin is a combo of Garcon and DeSean.  He's got Garcon's size, attitude but he's also got DeSean's first two steps and top end speed.  The ability to get to his speed that quickly is THAT good.  He said that P-Richie's speed doesn't play too fast in games but it's not like that with McLaurin.  Two steps, McLaurin is at full throttle.  Said he's got the hands, the attitude, and the smarts.  

 

As excited as they are about McLaurin, they're just as excited about Trey Quinn.  He called Trey Quinn a dog, plays mean and aggressive and is going to get a ton of looks this year.  The reason you're not seeing him, according to Lewis, is that they want to keep him under wraps.  He's got hands, runs excellent routes and they plan to use him a lot.  Lewis thinks 70-80 catches for Quinn is certainly possible.  

 

 

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27 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Alright, grab the lotHe called Trey Quinn a dog, plays mean and aggressive and is going to get a ton of looks this year.  The reason you're not seeing him, according to Lewis, is that they want to keep him under wraps.  He's got hands, runs excellent routes and they plan to use him a lot.  Lewis thinks 70-80 catches for Quinn is certainly possible.  

 

 

And that's an even further testament to how good Quinn is ; they don't even feel like he needs the preseason reps, even at his young age...so they can afford sitting him, in order to keep him under wraps.

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Honestly, if Reed stays healthy, then we have NO idea how things will go. His mere presence opens up opportunities for everybody else. Can we please have a full-year of Reed??

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5 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

Alright, grab the lotion.

 

I got to talk to Lake Lewis before the game today, if you don't know him he's a writer/reporter and he's been covering the team for 7 years now...a really good, down to earth dude. I asked him about McLaurin, he said that they are through the roof about him.  He can play all three receiver positions and they'll be planning on moving him around to keep defenses guessing.  He said he was surprised at how big he is.  Garcon was actually a decent sized receiver.  Not a big towering guy, but powerfully built and with the pads on, Lewis says they look to have a similar physicality.  McLaurin is listed at 6'0, 208 and Garcon is listed at 6'0, 211.  

 

Lewis went on to say that McLaurin is a combo of Garcon and DeSean.  He's got Garcon's size, attitude but he's also got DeSean's first two steps and top end speed.  The ability to get to his speed that quickly is THAT good.  He said that P-Richie's speed doesn't play too fast in games but it's not like that with McLaurin.  Two steps, McLaurin is at full throttle.  Said he's got the hands, the attitude, and the smarts.  

 

As excited as they are about McLaurin, they're just as excited about Trey Quinn.  He called Trey Quinn a dog, plays mean and aggressive and is going to get a ton of looks this year.  The reason you're not seeing him, according to Lewis, is that they want to keep him under wraps.  He's got hands, runs excellent routes and they plan to use him a lot.  Lewis thinks 70-80 catches for Quinn is certainly possible.  

 

 

That'd be great. Question is though, is Quinn made of glass? So far, we haven't seen evidence he can survive the NFL.

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I was surprised to see Quick get reps and targets with the first teamers. Not entirely sure why. I'd love to see some of the younger players get those snaps. We know what Quick is at this point and there's basically zero chance he makes the final 53 (though will probably be brought back at some point during the year). Granted, no WR got many looks last night. But it seems weird that guys like Harmon get banished to the later stages of the game. Or even get Robert Davis some snaps with Keenum.

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I think they tried to feature Quick so he can get a chance with another team when he gets cut. Jay being the nice guy that he is. 

 

And Harmon is buried until the 4th quarter in a feeble attempt to try to hide him from other GMs should we be forced to stash on the practice squad.  I am not still not convinced he is a lock but its nice to see contested catches out of him since that is atop his resume.

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Was Doctson the one who was homesick his rookie year or was that Sua? 

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How much did McLaurin play, I watched bits and pieces and didn't hear his name a single time?

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