Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Call it preseason, but I kinda like the potential of Doctson, Crowder, Richardson, Reed/Davis, Sprinkle, and Mo Harris. There's some good size, a little speed and a decent mix of production vs. potential. I still think we're leaning on the potential side and Reed and Richardson certainly come with some injury baggage though if Richardson got knocked out for a year with a hammy that probably speaks to roster juggling versus health. Reed is a M*A*S*H unit guaranteed to miss three to twelve games with concussion worries. More specifically: Tight end remains a question, but could be potentially good. Reed is great when he's on the field, but will he be able to see the field? Davis still provides chunk plays, but will Father Time catch up to him? Sprinkle showed a little last year, but they only sprinkled him in. I think the kid will see the field more because he's our top blocker (if he can show he has hands and can find those holes in the zone.) Wide Receiver? Doctson has the size and I think he has the hands once he gets his confidence back (and masters his route tree). Last year was effectively his rookie year. He showed some wow and some ugh. Crowder suffered early from putting too much pressure on himself and early injuries. Still not sure what happened to him as a returner, but if we give him a mulligan, he has shown he is a very good slot guy and can be both dangerous and reliable. Richardson has the speed, but I don't know a lot about him. He hasn't put up mind blowing numbers, but Seattle's offense is weird. It's so often about playground scramble drills. Maurice Harris has size and really good hands. There's always been something I liked him even though he's been sprinkled in less than Sprinkle. In any case, I'd love for him to show up and be one of those diamonds in the ruff for us. Davis showed some promise in training camp. I'd love for him to emerge too. Good size, speed, and hands (at least against other rookies) Other guys? Edited March 13, 2018 by Burgold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We have so many weapons. If we can get Allen Robinson, you wont be able to cover all of them. Alex Smith is going to carve up opposing defenses!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandweave Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We need that blocking TE. With what you posted above we don't have one. And that's a problem because we need to keep other teams Defenses honest and not know what type of play is being run by the personnel on the field. I know that's not a receiver but that's an issue to me with Reed/Davis combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD_washingtonredskins Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Good topic and nice assessment of our pass catchers. Harris is someone that I've wanted to get a look for a couple years now, but he's probably not ready to be penciled in as a starter. If he gets Grant's reps from last year I think we'll have a good sense of what we have in him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Just now, hatchetwound said: We have so many weapons. If we can get Allen Robinson, you wont be able to cover all of them. Alex Smith is going to carve up opposing defenses!!! They won't be able to cover Allen Robinson at all when they play us. Cause he's signing with ..... Edited March 13, 2018 by Dont Taze Me Bro 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I'm hoping that Robert Davis kid pans out and makes the active 53 due to a stellar camp. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: They won't be able to cover Allen Robinson at all when they play us. Cause he's signing with ..... Nothing is final yet. I wouldn't be shocked if one of these "locked up" free agents end up here because Dan Snyder opened up his pocket book. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, RabidFan said: I'm hoping that Robert Davis kid pans out and makes the active 53 due to a stellar camp. Good call. I really liked him in training camp last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 1. Reed is our best receiver but he has trouble staying healthy. 2. Crowder is awesome, started slow last year and somewhat injured but I can count on him. 3. Thompson is special but he too has an injury history 4. Vernon, great back up. You don't want him playing too much due to age, but guy is awesome. 5. Doctson, could go either way. Had flashes but I'm not counting on him yet. 6. Richardson, basically same stats as Doctson also has injury history. 7. Everyone else are JAGs, and I have little faith they will be anything other than JAGs So with that said, no our receiving corp is not shaping up nicely. We have several injury prone, unproven or JAGs on this team. They could turn out to be awesome, but I see nothing that screams wow. Edited March 13, 2018 by dyst 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, dyst said: So with that said, no our receiving corp is not shaping up nicely. We have several injury prone, unproven or JAGs on this team. They could turn out to be awesome, but I see nothing that screams wow. I can see that too. Yours is the cup half-empty view. Mine is the cup half-full view. We certainly have more questions than answers, but I think/hope you are being a little overly negative. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Burgold said: I can see that too. Yours is the cup half-empty view. Mine is the cup half-full view. We certainly have more questions than answers, but I think/hope you are being a little overly negative. To piggy back off this, we do it to ourselves every year. We didn't need Garcon or Jackson because "hey we got Pryor who was awesome in Cleveland and he didn't even have a QB there", plus "Doctson will have more of a chance". I need two solid years from this ****ed up franchise before I start thinking cup half-full lol 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) I want one more receiver outside of richardson someone that can produce and make the catch on 3rd and 8....someone reliable i honestly dont trust any of these guys to make that catch except reed and hes often injured. Please dont say Ryan Grant Edited March 13, 2018 by CjSuAvE22 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, CjSuAvE22 said: I want one more receiver outside of richardson someone that can produce and make the catch on 3rd and 8....someone reliable i honestly dont trust any of these guys to make that catch except reed and hes often injured. Please dont say Ryan Grant Honestly, I trust Crowder to convert that third and eight. He has a history of doing it too. He has been very clutch (with the exception of the start of 2017.) I believe that was a mirage and we'll see the player he has been every other year. Mind you, something bizarre happened to him last year as a returner. It's like he was exposed to Red Kryptonite and lost all his returning powers. He just fell totally apart there and never recovered. He did, however, end the year on an up note as a receiver. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hangman- C_Hanburger Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, Burgold said: Call it preseason, but I kinda like the potential of Doctson, Crowder, Richardson, Reed/Davis, Sprinkle, and Mo Harris. There's some good size, a little speed and a decent mix of production vs. potential. I still think we're leaning on the potential side and Reed and Richardson certainly come with some injury baggage though if Richardson got knocked out for a year with a hammy that probably speaks to roster juggling versus health. Reed is a M*A*S*H unit guaranteed to miss three to twelve games with concussion worries. More specifically: Tight end remains a question, but could be potentially good. Reed is great when he's on the field, but will he be able to see the field? Davis still provides chunk plays, but will Father Time catch up to him? Sprinkle showed a little last year, but they only sprinkled him in. I think the kid will see the field more because he's our top blocker (if he can show he has hands and can find those holes in the zone.) Wide Receiver? Doctson has the size and I think he has the hands once he gets his confidence back (and masters his route tree). Last year was effectively his rookie year. He showed some wow and some ugh. Crowder suffered early from putting too much pressure on himself and early injuries. Still not sure what happened to him as a returner, but if we give him a mulligan, he has shown he is a very good slot guy and can be both dangerous and reliable. Richardson has the speed, but I don't know a lot about him. He hasn't put up mind blowing numbers, but Seattle's offense is weird. It's so often about playground scramble drills. Maurice Harris has size and really good hands. There's always been something I liked him even though he's been sprinkled in less than Sprinkle. In any case, I'd love for him to show up and be one of those diamonds in the ruff for us. Davis showed some promise in training camp. I'd love for him to emerge too. Good size, speed, and hands (at least against other rookies) Other guys? Don't forget Thompson...I think Alex is going to have some fun. Now we need one more OLman to fill out that line 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, The Hangman- C_Hanburger said: Don't forget Thompson...I think Alex is going to have some fun. Now we need one more OLman to fill out that line Yeah, for some reason I did. And you're right, that a third down running back ought to be included in the receiving corp conversation. My biggest concern when it comes to him is whether the broken leg saps any of his speed. That was a pretty nasty injury. I hope he comes back. He was amazing until he got hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Why am I Mr. Pink? Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Im not worrying about it bc it is way to early and there will be a ton of change but we dont have a receiver that can move the chains and pass block. Basically, we dont have a Pierre Garcon. Crowder is a better version of Richardson. Doctson may be the X receiver we desperately need but he would need to make big strides this year and stay healthy. If Reed is out, who do we trust on 3rd and 8 to beat his man and make a tough catch? The screens to CT on 3rd and long were awesome but that dried up after a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onedrop Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 44 minutes ago, dyst said: To piggy back off this, we do it to ourselves every year. We didn't need Garcon or Jackson because "hey we got Pryor who was awesome in Cleveland and he didn't even have a QB there", plus "Doctson will have more of a chance". I need two solid years from this ****ed up franchise before I start thinking cup half-full lol i disagree. anyone that labels crowder AWESOME at this point is FOR SURE an optimist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Jordy Nelson is now an available Free Agent. If we cant get Robinsin we should seriously consider signing him. Could you imagine him in our lineup with our other weapons? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 13, 2018 Author Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, onedrop said: i disagree. anyone that labels crowder AWESOME at this point is FOR SURE an optimist Edited March 13, 2018 by Burgold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, hatchetwound said: Jordy Nelson is now an available Free Agent. If we cant get Robinsin we should seriously consider signing him. Could you imagine him in our lineup with our other weapons? I want him as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, hatchetwound said: Jordy Nelson is now an available Free Agent. If we cant get Robinsin we should seriously consider signing him. Could you imagine him in our lineup with our other weapons? If we did that, I guarantee that by week 5, Jordan Reed, Jordy Nelson, Chris Thompson, Paul Richardson, and Josh Doctson will all be on IR. Trent Williams may or may not be playing on an injured leg by then. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, dyst said: So with that said, no our receiving corp is not shaping up nicely. We have several injury prone, unproven or JAGs on this team. They could turn out to be awesome, but I see nothing that screams wow. That’s because we haven’t made the HUGE signing of “Must do everything we can to bring him back” Ryan Grant When that happens ... we’ll still have the worst group of skill position players in the division. I like they got a guy, though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatchetwound Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, NickyJ said: If we did that, I guarantee that by week 5, Jordan Reed, Jordy Nelson, Chris Thompson, Paul Richardson, and Josh Doctson will all be on IR. Trent Williams may or may not be playing on an injured leg by then. I don't know where the "Jordy Nelson can't stay healthy" trip is coming from. I just did some research on Wikipedia: Year Team GP GS Receiving Fumbles Rec Yds Avg Lng TD Fum Lost 2008 GB 16 2 33 366 11.1 29 2 0 0 2009 GB 13 0 22 320 14.5 51 2 3 1 2010 GB 16 4 45 582 12.9 80 2 3 3 2011 GB 16 9 68 1,263 18.6 93 15 0 0 2012 GB 12 10 49 745 15.2 73 7 0 0 2013 GB 16 16 85 1,314 15.5 76 8 0 0 2014 GB 16 16 98 1,519 15.5 80 13 0 0 2016 GB 16 16 97 1,257 13.0 60 14 1 1 2017 GB 15 15 53 482 9.1 58 6 0 0 Total 135 88 550 7,848 14.3 93 69 7 5 Yes, he missed the 2015 season, but outside of that he started 16, 16, 16, and 15 games in 4 of the last 5 years. Yes, he was a bit banged up last year but he still got out there!!! Chris Thompson will benefit from sharing carries and I bet he will stay healthy here. As for Jordan Reed, I agree. He could be the best TE in the whole league but man alive is he always injured!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 If Reed is healthy next year it changes everything, it's a big if but Reed, Richardson, and Crowder could be a solid group of young pass catchers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 This all means nothing without a good running game. We need a Kamara or a Fournette - hell even an Ajayi would do. As it stands we break nothing and we're predictable as hell. a good LG and a stud RB and the receivers don't need to be amazing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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