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The binge_mode podcast just released a live show they did at Con of Thrones, and it’s hysterical. But warning, Binge Mode contains adult content.  (Like, “would you rather receive the Lords Kiss from Jon Snow or spend the night with Pod the Rod” adult content...) 

 

They played a game of “would you rather.” See above for example.

 

Anybody who needs a good laugh, it’s great. 

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On 7/18/2019 at 7:12 PM, Forehead said:

Has anyone read Fire and Blood or that giant companion book to the main series?  Are either worth it?

Sorry to be a few weeks behind this post, but I highly recommend both.

 

World focuses on the entirety of the universe the book is built around, including geographic depictions of every aspect of the known world, as well as the histories of each civilized part of said world. I'm just guessing off the top of my head, but the Targaryan family history in Westeros probably lasts like 40-50 pages in World ... Fire and Blood took those 40 pages and did a 400 page version of the first half (so 20 pages) of what was in World of Ice and Fire.

 

World of Ice and Fire dedicated about 1.5 - 3 pages to each Targaryan ruler (including pictures) ... Fire and Blood dedicated about 50-75 pages for every ruler through about 150 AD, or halfway through the Targaryan rule and gets into extensive detail about how Westeros was ruled, the personalities that helped rule the kingdom, and the inter-family dynamics and order of rule among the Targaryans. Very compelling, if you're a nerd like me.

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I think it's based on the Princess and the Queen novella.

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4 hours ago, StillUnknown said:

i remember when I was actually excited for them prequels

 

fun times they were

 

Yeah seeing how it ended I just don’t give a crap anymore. They broke me. 

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2 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

Yeah seeing how it ended I just don’t give a crap anymore. They broke me. 

Agreed, and time has done nothing to diminish my annoyance with it.  The series was best when it had books to follow, and the writer has pretty much stopped writing.  There are no prequel books to follow.  Hard to get excited about an entire series written like the worst season of game of thrones.  

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I'll give it a look as long as D&D aren't anywhere near it.  

 

I always thought giving a full account of Robert's Rebellion would have been awesome.   We saw a brief flashback in the show, but it had little context and just didn't resonate.

 

Netflix's The Witcher has a shot to knock them down a peg  so they need to get this right. 

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6 hours ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

They broke me. 

 

Yep.  The bumpage of this thread just annoys me all over again :(

 

Spoiler alert: THE SHOW DIES IN SEASON 8

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4 hours ago, Destino said:

Agreed, and time has done nothing to diminish my annoyance with it.  The series was best when it had books to follow, and the writer has pretty much stopped writing.  There are no prequel books to follow.  Hard to get excited about an entire series written like the worst season of game of thrones.  

 

they really had no idea how to write the more clever and smarter characters once the source material dried up.

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Yep.  The bumpage of this thread just annoys me all over again :(

 

Spoiler alert: THE SHOW DIES IN SEASON 8

 

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I’ll honestly just ignore 7-8 and stop the series at 6 after the Winds of Winter if I ever rewatch. 

 

6 hours ago, DCSaints_fan said:

always thought giving a full account of Robert's Rebellion would have been awesome.   We saw a brief flashback in the show, but it had little context and just didn't resonate.

 

I loved that the show always kept this world altering event mysterious and told it’s story by the accounts of those that were involved and the legends that rose from those moments. It was something else the show handled perfectly. 

 

Like seeing Tywin sacking the city will never be as special as it was hearing Jaime tell what happened to Brienne. Seeing Robert and Rhaegars fight at the trident won’t be as intriguing as imagining it from hearing Robert admit that he kills rhaegar again every night in his dreams. I appreciate that they left so much up to the imagination like when Jaime describes the death of Ned’s father and brother to Ned. 

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Things I hope for:

 

- George finishes the books and at some point, somebody re-does the adaptation, starting at the beginning. Maybe with new VR technology or something, which would be kindof insane.   NOTE: I won't read the books.  But somebody else can and they can adapt it for me.  

- I live to see the above

- group sex with Sophie Turner, Natalie Dormer, and Nathalie Emanuel and Emelia Clarke. 

 

Sadly, I thin the last option has the greatest chance of actually happening.  

 

I will turn on the prequels when they come out.  The first one about the long night seems like it's entirely the wrong angle of the universe for me.  I didn't care at all about the white walkers, children of the forest, 3 eyed raven or the Night King, or any of that stuff.  So if the "magical" aspect of the world is the focus, I'll probably watch an episode or two and then dump it.

 

The Targaryan show might actually be pretty cool if it's handled correctly. Not saying it will or won't be.  But dragons are cool.  Shrug.

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Our best hope is that the books are released and somebody makes the entire series a quality anime or something so we can get the entire story of the books start to finish maybe a few things here or there cut but like a 12 season clone wars type of thing 

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3 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

Our best hope is that the books are released and somebody makes the entire series a quality anime or something so we can get the entire story of the books start to finish maybe a few things here or there cut but like a 12 season clone wars type of thing 

George is the key to all of this.  

 

It’s a pretty tough look for my guy not finishing the books....

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17 hours ago, Destino said:

  There are no prequel books to follow.

The new series is based on something that it is documented in his notes and history and in the Queen and Princess novella.  

 

While I didn't love the story, it has some interesting elements to it.  I'm also curious to see more of Westeros back when dragons were more common.

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12 hours ago, visionary said:

I'm also curious to see more of Westeros back when dragons were more common.

 

they tamed their dragons by yelling at them

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4 hours ago, StillUnknown said:

 

they tamed their dragons by yelling at them

I think one thing from the novella that stood out was that dragons are dangerous, destructive creatures, even if they are supposed to be on your side.  

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2 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

So I rewatched the whole show. The final season is the best season.

 

 

This thread just pulled a Jon Snow. 🙂

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On ‎7‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 10:40 AM, mcsluggo said:

what happened to the books, was his intertwined plots got too far-flung and unwieldy, and he started having trouble keeping them entwined with each other in an interesting and mutually supporting manner.   He also killed off a lot of interesting characters in the early books (which was very entertaining at the time), but by ADWD you miss some of the flavor of those good characters AND you got the the very real feeling that he was just purposely fluffing up meaningless side story lines so that he could kill off some more very much less interesting "key characters".   Mostly... it just seemed like he got some combination of too bogged down in wild webs he had woven, and too intellectually lazy (or out of ideas?) to keep it as interesting as it had been in the first 2 or 3 books.    

I don't think it's possible to finish the books without writing 4 or 5 more books.

 

I'm simply saying that based on the tv show. From the middle of the seventh season on, it seemed like they crammed a year's worth of plot in one episode - especially with how easily characters were jumping all over the map. So, that makes me think that they needed a least three more seasons to end the story "properly" while maintaining the initial pace. I can only assume the books are in far worse shape from that regard.

 

Basically, the building action in the series NEVER stopped. We hit the peak of the story late in year 7, and that left season 8 to get us back down the hill we had climbed in 7 years.

 

Like, honestly, you needed an entire season devoted solely to the gay pirate to explain how he managed to do all the **** he did.

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41 minutes ago, Lombardi's_kid_brother said:

From the middle of the seventh season on, it seemed like they crammed a year's worth of plot in one episode


this is exactly what happened. 
 

Mance Raydar says he’s going to light the biggest fire the north has ever seen in season 3, episode 3.  That doesn’t happen until season 4 episode 9. 
 

Catelyn makes a deal with Walder Frey in season 1 and the red wedding doesn’t happen until the end of season 3. 
 

All of the moments, events, political dynamics and world altering changes used to take seasons to see to their conclusion or the consequences. 
 

nothing has time to breathe in season 7-8. There is no reflection on the anything that’s happened. It makes everything feel rushed and the world empty Ned’s death is talked about for multiple seasons afterward. So is the red wedding. Nobody even has time to say “man that white walker thing was really ****ing crazy right?” nobody even mentions that 

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agreed.  they just simply ran out of time in the series.    

 

But people have this fantasy that GRR Martin had/has this perfect master script in his mind that would perfectly wrap up everything .... weaving all the threads back together into a cozy tapestry of honey and unicorn milk

 

 

 

See the source image

 

 

 

 

 

i think the reality is he has/had some vague ideas about how to wrap things up (and shared them with the tv writers), but doesn't REALLY know.... perhaps with another 7 seasons the TV show could've tied things up really nicely.   George Martin never will do so.    

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Reflecting back on Season 8 since this thread popped back up, it's even more terrible now than when I watched it. I'm not sure they could've done a worse job. From the dumbest battle strategies to the mysterious ways people survived the white walkers to somehow still having an army after the white walkers to destroying the characters to the poor sets (see finding Jaime and Cersei and realizing they could've just stepped a few feet over and wouldn't have been crushed by rocks). What a cluster the writers made out of what was otherwise a pretty great first six seasons. 

 

I think what best sums it up: Jon doesn't pet his wolf goodbye then they land the last dragon in an easy kill zone when unsullied's woman gets killed and yet no one fires on the dragon but they miraculously kill a dragon from miles away with ease. Lazy as **** writing. 

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