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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Game of Thrones Season 8

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2 hours ago, Mournblade said:

 

Too bad she ruined Star Wars. 

How? She can't do anything about the script. 

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4 minutes ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said:

Her face reminds me of an ape. 

 

Tormund gonna kill you, then floss with your bones

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Has anyone read Fire and Blood or that giant companion book to the main series?  Are either worth it?

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1 hour ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said:

I’ll **** tormund up. 

Make sure you take your protein, first, kid...

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Forehead said:

Has anyone read Fire and Blood or that giant companion book to the main series?  Are either worth it?

 

I'd say skip the Fire & Blood and just go with The World of Ice & Fire because they're basically the same or at least they overlap.  (I have both but haven't read them yet) 

 

They read more like a history textbook then a story like the Dunk and Egg tales. 

 

They also have some nice illustrations. 

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17 hours ago, Dr. Do Itch Big said:

I’ll **** tormund up. 

 

Image result for tormund gif

 

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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/fan-reactions-to-game-of-thrones-ending-wont-chang/1100-6468501/

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Game of Thrones wrapped up its eighth and final season in May. The finale, and the entire final season, was controversial. Some people enjoyed it. Others didn't. Some thought it was fine. Whatever the case, the ending was a much-discussed event.

 

But will the reaction to the final season impact author George R.R. Martin's final two novels? It doesn't sound like it. Martin told EW that he feels a "temptation" to change plans for his next entry, The Winds of Winter, but he won't do it.


"That's wrong," he said about changing his writing based on how people reacted to the show. "Because you've been planning for a certain ending and if you suddenly change direction just because somebody figured it out, or because they don't like it, then it screws up the whole structure. So no, I don't read the fan sites. I want to write the book I've always intended to write all along. And when it comes out they can like it or they can not like it."


Martin said the internet has changed how fan theories are spread, and how much steam they pick up. In a time before the internet, only 1 in 100 people might accurately put together the threads of a mystery like Jon Snow's parentage. But with the internet, if one person finds a clue, they post it online and then everyone else understands a plot reveal they might not have otherwise seen coming.

 

Game of Thrones the TV show got ahead of Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series, upon which the show is based. Martin said he told Game of Thrones creators David Benioff and Dan Weiss "a number of things" related to his plans, and some of this ended up in the show. However, Martin's novel series will take a different path towards its conclusion, it seems.

 

"It's like two alternate realities existing side by side," Martin said about the show and his book series. "I have to double down and do my version of it which is what I've been doing."

 

As for when Martin plans to finish The Winds of Winter, well, you can probably guess his response. "It will be done when it's done," he said.

 

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It won't change the ending because that lazy **** isn't going to write anything else. He's too busy counting stacks of merchandising cash to avenge his baby from the horrible things D&D did to it. 

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18 hours ago, Bacon said:

It won't change the ending because that lazy **** isn't going to write anything else. He's too busy counting stacks of merchandising cash to avenge his baby from the horrible things D&D did to it. 

If there was anything which I think would motivate GRRM to actually finish the books, it's that the story's ending was just not well received, and he MIGHT want to actually fix it for his own legacy's sake.  

 

I say this as somebody who won't read the books, so it doesn't matter to me.  I'm hoping that once the story is complete (assuming it is), in say 10-15 years, somebody goes back and re-adapts it in whatever the new version of watching TV is then.  I think in the next 15 years, the "watching" experience is going to change entirely, and be much more VR like, and it will be a real opportunity to start from scratch.

 

Pity, though.  The first 6 seasons (minus season 5 which was extremely inconsistent) were some of the best TV out there.  

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He has no incentive to finish the books. He either doesn’t finish them and everybody assumes they would be great and a better and more true ending or he does finish them and risk disappointing people as well, 

 

i suppose there is the chance that he finishes them and they are well received but why risk it? Right now he’s the definitive source again and held in high regard 

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GRRM has actual artistic integrity. He's not going to change the ending he's planned from the beginning in response to show criticism.

 

I want the book, but I like that he's taking as long as he needs instead of publishing trash ASAP. 

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On 7/18/2019 at 12:56 PM, Riggo-toni said:

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Ahh, the Unified Theory of HBO resurfaces. 

 

Like all Pixar movies are supposedly all in the same universe/timeline, this theory has surfaced as well that all HBO shows are connected. 

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8 hours ago, PF Chang said:

GRRM has actual artistic integrity. He's not going to change the ending he's planned from the beginning in response to show criticism.

 

I want the book, but I like that he's taking as long as he needs instead of publishing trash ASAP. 

 

Trash..?   Like the last book in the series he DID put out??  

 

D&D didn't do terrible things to the storyline, it fell apart under its own weight.  

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18 hours ago, mcsluggo said:

 

Trash..?   Like the last book in the series he DID put out??  

 

D&D didn't do terrible things to the storyline, it fell apart under its own weight.  

 

I don't think ADWD was trash, nor do I really think D&D ruined the storyline. The endings will be essentially the same but the journeys are different, so the last season felt disjointed. 

 

What aspects of the storyline do you think fell apart? I'm not saying it didn't fall apart, just that there are a lot of different things people disliked. For example you don't seem like the kind of person who's mad that Jon and the Night King didn't have an anime-style 1v1 lightsaber duel. 

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18 hours ago, mcsluggo said:

 

Trash..?   Like the last book in the series he DID put out??  

 

D&D didn't do terrible things to the storyline, it fell apart under its own weight.  

 

ADWD was not trash.  Like book AFFC, it has the problems of pacing and storylines which were total duds/deadends.  On the other hand, the character development is pretty darn good.  Dany's eventual fall is heavily foreshadowed. 

 

Its much better on a reread.

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what happened to the last season (the last two seasons) is that they got rushed.    

 

seasons 1 through 5 were leisurely... focused on character development, scheming, slowly building up tension/armies/schemes/foreshadowing/relationships...

 

the last 2 seasons were focused on ... ****, we are xxHERExx  and we have 75 things that have to happen to get us to xxTHERExx  in 15 episodes (as well as 150 lose ends to tie up on the way there) .... and they started rushing.   

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what happened to the books, was his intertwined plots got too far-flung and unwieldy, and he started having trouble keeping them entwined with each other in an interesting and mutually supporting manner.   He also killed off a lot of interesting characters in the early books (which was very entertaining at the time), but by ADWD you miss some of the flavor of those good characters AND you got the the very real feeling that he was just purposely fluffing up meaningless side story lines so that he could kill off some more very much less interesting "key characters".   Mostly... it just seemed like he got some combination of too bogged down in wild webs he had woven, and too intellectually lazy (or out of ideas?) to keep it as interesting as it had been in the first 2 or 3 books.    

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