Spaceman Spiff Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Oh, I heard earlier that it was supposed to be on TV. Didn't know that it was going to be in the program. What's the point? Players aren't going to read the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, balki1867 said: Just going off a hunch here: Amvets is a legitimate charity (highly regarded by Charity Navigator: https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=11547 ) that helps veterans. Their official website is http://amvetsnsf.org/ and makes no mention of the NFL controversy. The ad points us to http://amvets.org/ which is a completely different website that looks very similar and features the NFL controversy very prominently. Beyond that the site is loaded with ads. The page showing their financials shows their spending to be >2x the Amvets spending shown on the charity navigator site. I won't even go into the fact that the programs they claim to offer to vets have vastly different names than the ones on the first Amvets site. Finally the two charities (on their history pages) claim different founding dates (1944 versus 1948) even though they claim the same address in Maryland. Something is off. amvets is a org ,the NSF is a foundation branch of the org https://amvets.wordpress.com/about/officers-and-staff/ different missions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Im siding with the nfl here. Theyre controlling what they can control. Thats a fundamental right of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, twa said: amvets is a org ,the NSF is a foundation branch of the org https://amvets.wordpress.com/about/officers-and-staff/ different missions Just came back to post the same thing. Sadly I can't find any information on the parent org's operating budget. They have information about their program-related expenditures (http://amvets.org/amvets-impact/ ) but nothing about their overhead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, zoony said: Im siding with the nfl here. Theyre controlling what they can control. Thats a fundamental right of business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Would be interesting to see if everyone's opinion stayed the same if Tom Steyer wanted some air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 The NFL, as a private org, has pretty broad power here. Nonetheless, they should have uses a different rationale than political statement. I think they should have rejected it for "interference in NFL Ownership and NFLPA matters," which is basically what the ad was/is trying to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zguy28 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Most of the vets I know no longer watch the NFL. And this will just reinforce it unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Zguy28 said: Most of the vets I know no longer watch the NFL. And this will just reinforce it unfortunately. This is true, unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 So now that I have actually seen the ad, heard the NFL statement, and thought about it, I am against what the NFL is doing here. The video above is clearly political. I understand them not running that. The AMVET ad simply was a print ad that said "Please Stand". Not "Stand up you piece of crap", or "Real Americans Stand" or anything like that. Any of those I would agree with blocking. But Please Stand is fine in my opinion. Now I am not saying they NFL can't block the ad, only they shouldn't and are wrong for it. However, and I say this as an active duty person, it is not enough to sway me from watching any more or less football or spending money on football. The quality of the game is doing a fine job of that on it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 2:35 PM, Predicto said: The ad absolutely is a political statement (and a simplistic one IMO) but the NFL should have just shut up and let it be aired. This will only backfire on them. I'd say that smarts... but you're so left leaning you won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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