Rufus T Firefly Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 1 hour ago, DC9 said: Paul Richardson seems to be on a lot of folks list. I'm not sure how lower-priced he'll be. Really quick and nice footwork along the sidelines. He wasn't on my list for being low-priced. The other two were. Though there are a ton of WRs on the market so someone may slip thru the cracks and end up a bargain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 A lot of talk today on radio including by Cooley about Jarvis Landry. Being in South Florida, I've watched Landry a lot. Great player, can also block, can return kicks, too. But he plays mostly out of the slot. Can the dude be an outside receiver? He also brings a bit of an attitude which is good and bad. A lot like Garcon in that regard. He can get hot at teammates/coaches. But I think that unit could some spark like that. If he can play outside, he'd be my #1 FA target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Landry appears to be a player held back by QB woes, that would otherwise be a superstar. I imagine that he will get paid mightily this offseason to a $ that we simply cannot afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Seems like some of the moves the team made last year to let go of certain players might have been the right ones... lack of effort were the reason quoted by the team for reasons to letting baker walk in the first place. Buccaneers' Chris Baker incited locker room shouting match following Panthers game http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/27/buccaneers-chris-baker-incited-locker-room-shouting-match-following-panthers-game/ via @ProFootballTalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Landry appears to be a player held back by QB woes, that would otherwise be a superstar. I imagine that he will get paid mightily this offseason to a $ that we simply cannot afford. Yeah the money side of it will likely be prohibitive. He's arguably the top fish in the sea as to the receiver position so teams with mega cap room can front load a contract to lure him. Like the 49ers did with Garcon. Unless Landry gets a kick out of playing against his pal twice a year, O. Beckham. Landry seems to like the limelight. NFC East is a good place for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, oraphus said: Seems like some of the moves the team made last year to let go of certain players might have been the right ones... lack of effort were the reason quoted by the team for reasons to letting baker walk in the first place. Buccaneers' Chris Baker incited locker room shouting match following Panthers game http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/27/buccaneers-chris-baker-incited-locker-room-shouting-match-following-panthers-game/ via @ProFootballTalk Baker always felt like an overrated player to me. He would occasionally make a big play, but he'd shoot himself in the foot just as often; Ionnaidis and Allen have both made him an afterthought. I also don't miss his cheapshot against Foles however many years ago it was. Big talk, rarely big actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/19/2017 at 7:54 PM, DC9 said: Add some more to that up the middle of the defense Virgil Van Dijk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: Virgil Van Dijk. Already drinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 minute ago, DC9 said: Already drinking! Replacing Lovren with Van Dijk, nice. Trying to think of a Redskins FA 2018 equivalent from famine to feast -- Fat Rob replaced with Le'Veon Bell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said: Replacing Lovren with Van Dijk, nice. Trying to think of a Redskins FA 2018 equivalent from famine to feast -- Fat Rob replaced with Le'Veon Bell? Yeah that would be compatible lol. I'm so happy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Going through overthecap... So far, this is the range/ballpark I’ve got guys in... Brown 6-8mil Long 2-3 Murphy 2 Foster 2-3 Grant 3 Breeland 7-9 That’s a range of 22-28mil/year (which isn’t including creative structuring, of course). Add Cousins (say 25-28?) and we’re at 47-56. Take off Breeland and we’re down to around 40-49. OTC has the projected cap at 178mil and us with 54 in space. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 Our cap position will be dictated by the length of contracts being signed. Cousins on a long term deal will drop a cap hit under 20mil in 2018. Gets tougher with short term deals, so I want Logan in town but last year he played on a one year 8mil deal. I wonder if the trend on one year deals continues in 2018, that's could be an issue in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 If we are going cheapish or relatively cheapish in FA at WR Paul Richardson -- brings speed and a true deep threat Jordan Matthews -- steady reliable hands -- didn't have the best year in Buffalo and got hurt so he might come in a discount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: If we are going cheapish or relatively cheapish in FA at WR .........then we will re-sign Ryan Grant, stick with Crowder and Doctson, then draft after another mid round wideout to add to the group. Thats my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 21 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: .........then we will re-sign Ryan Grant, stick with Crowder and Doctson, then draft after another mid round wideout to add to the group. Thats my guess. Receivers tend to take time to develop. I am guessing they won't have the patience for growing pains. I think they go FA. Maybe draft, too. But I'd be surprised if they don't grab someone in FA. I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCB Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Digging that Jordan Matthews idea, SIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/24/2017 at 7:38 PM, Thinking Skins said: I wonder if the fact that we signed Vigil to a 2 year deal (expires in 2019) means anything about Foster and Compton? I could easily see us letting go of Compton for Vigil, but not really both. But, while there are players I want in the draft at ILB, there's nobody I really want in FA. So maybe we go with those 3 and a rookie next year? And I know I'm missing Spaight and JHC but I haven't been too impressed with them just yet. Vigil is going to be quality depth next year. I think Compton is a vet minimum guy given the injury so he'd say a pay drop vs the $1.7M he is making this year back down to around what Vigil is making. I'd see if I can bring both into training camp to compete for a spot. I think Chris Carter is the guy we are going to have to cut ties with in the offseason. It's not as if he is some Pro Bowl quality special teamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 After Kirk walks, Bruce will have tons of money to sign fourth tier FAs with. I bet we give Lard Ass from Stand By Me a two year deal to play LG. We need a running mate for ZBrown. A new safety. I have high hopes for Nicholson, and I haven't totally counted out Su'a yet, because despite the impressive mind reading capabilities of our fanbase, nobody really knows what his situation was/is. If the team welcomes him back, I will fall in line with them because they know a lot more about it than me. I imagine Earl Thomas will be out there as well. Another bull to stick in there with Ioannidis and JAllen. Let's roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 6:18 PM, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: .........then we will re-sign Ryan Grant, stick with Crowder and Doctson, then draft after another mid round wideout to add to the group. Thats my guess. We might be able to get in on Allen Robinson because he's coming off an injury. I know its risky but he's young and very good and we might need to take a chance like this for value. He's only played 43 games and in that time has 386 receptions for 2,848 yards and 22 TD's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 6:18 PM, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: .........then we will re-sign Ryan Grant, stick with Crowder and Doctson, then draft after another mid round wideout to add to the group. Thats my guess. That’s my guess too. thats 8-8 with no explosiveness again. Which means they haven’t learned. But I don’t think they are capable of learning. So that’s my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Thoughts on Mike Wallace? Haven’t seen him play this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Apparently we are letting breeland hit free agency. Putting all the puzzzle pieces together over the years, he is gone. Gmsm convincing him to come back to pracctice, Swearinger calling out certain members of secondary for not knowing assignments.... its a shame the guy has a lot of talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardshock Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Using Breeland's twitter comments, I just don't see a way we keep him. We've groomed two young CBs to replace him. He walks. I really am happy with Fuller and cannot wait to see what Moreau can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 On balance, letting Breeland test FA is the correct move. I can see him taking a one year prove it deal somewhere, much like the trend of this season's FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 4 hours ago, zoony said: Apparently we are letting breeland hit free agency. Putting all the puzzzle pieces together over the years, he is gone. Gmsm convincing him to come back to pracctice, Swearinger calling out certain members of secondary for not knowing assignments.... its a shame the guy has a lot of talent The one quote I saw, I thought Swearinger mentioned the defense as a whole, not the secondary specifically... of course that’s the area he knows, so... Agree that Breeland is all but gone. The only thing I could see changing that is if Cousins doesn’t re-sign and we have more money to spend. Loved Breeland as a rookie and thought he could become a good player. Reminds me a bit of Carlos Rogers, but with better hands (or is it “eyes”?). Sticks his nose in the run game, presses pretty well and can usually stay on his guy’s hip. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that he has some trouble with his assignments though - never thought zone play was a strength, and there have been a good amount of blown assignments in his area over the years. He’s had some really bad games, some really good games, and a lot of solid outings. I’d be happy to keep him, but the money and the depth behind him pretty much rule that out. I don’t see Dunbar as much of a drop off, but that’s only after seeing an uptick in his play this year (and Breeland having some bad games/stretches the past two years). Moreau is unproven (as is Holsey), though I see some of the same flashes we saw from Breeland as a rook. If I had to bet, Fuller can play on the outside too, though I want him at least mostly in the slot. This secondary has, and will have a pretty nice blend of vets and youth, and talent and potential. Forgetting money for the moment, I’d be curious to see people’s FA receiver wishlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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