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      ES Coverage Cowboys vs Redskins 2019
       
      9/15/19
       
      Do I look like I'm playing? I'm not playing. This is the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys. If you are a fan of this game, and this one does not get you excited you might want to check your pulse.
       
      Hello my friends it is I, JimmiJo, back for another year of this wonderful thing we call Redskins Football. This makes season 14 for me. I am joined by The Spaceman Spiff who will hereafter be known as "The Spaceman Spiff." 
       
      Where's that dude that gets the big tattoos on his back? There's his next one.
       
      So how important is this game? I don't know. What is the different between 1-1 and 0-2? The difference between batting .500 and zippy?
       
      Throw in that this is their 2nd division game to start the year AND a home game and you have a critical match.
       
      And once again they contend with critical injuries to start the year. Last year it was  their rookie star running back. This year its their 2nd year star...well you get the rest.  Darrius Guice is gone and not coming back this year. I think this really hurts him moving forward. Not sure who will build a scheme around him given his first two seasons.
       
      So it is down to the veteran Adrian Peterson. I have no worries of ring rust for hum. None whatsoever. He knows what to do.
       
      Anyway, almost time. Please share your thoughts.
       
      Stand by...
       
      Inactives
       
      The Redskins declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 12 QB Colt McCoy
      o   No. 23 CB Quinton Dunbar
      o   No. 31 Fabian Moreau
      o   No. 64 C Ross Pierschbacher
      o   No. 67 G Wes Martin
      o   No. 86 TE Jordan Reed
      o   No. 93 DT Jonathan Allen
       
      The Cowboys declared the following players as inactive:
      o   No. 10 WR Tavon Austin
      o   No. 37 S Donovan Wilson
      o   No. 57 LB Luke Gifford
      o   No. 61 C Adam Redmond
      o   No. 69 G Brandon Knight
      o   No. 79 DT Trysten Hill
      o   No. 97 DE Taco Charlton
       
      Follow along in-game at Twitter @Skinscast 
       
      JimmiJo
       
      Head coach Jay Gruden said it is not time to press the panic button when asked if staff changes could occur on the defensive coaching staff. It may not be for him, but he might want to pay attention to the sounds coming from the owners suite at Redskins Park.
       
      For example the sound of shouting and heavy objects striking walls could portend an early offseason for someone.
       
      The Washington Redskins are now 0-2 to start the season. They are 0-2 in the division.
       
      If that is not panic-inducing, they face a Chicago Bears football team (themselves in need of a solid win) on Monday Night Football next. A series they do not typically do well on.
       
      In both games to open the campaign the winning teams had the game well in hand at the start of the fourth quarter, despite Washington taking leads in each of the games.
       
      Against Dallas, the team began well again; taking a 7-0 lead into the second quarter. This was not quite the 17-0 start they had in Philadelphia. Nor did it take until halftime for the Cowboys to adjust.
       
      It happened on Dallas’ fourth drive. Starting at their own 3-yard line at 9:44 in the 2nd period, the Cowboys employed a combination of runs up the middle and quick outs in the flats and sideline to advance the ball 97-yards in 7 plays and tie the game.
       
      Following a three-and-out by Washington, Dallas went 74-yards on 11-plays to take the 14-7 lead at halftime.
       
      The 3rd Quarter began with the Cowboys receiving the ball at their own 25. Nine plays  and 75-yards later they were leading 21-7.
       
      The Redskins made it interesting with their own 11-play, 70-yard drive to cut he lead to 7.
       
      But Dallas responded with a field goal. And would add another touchdown in the fourth quarter to extend the lead to 17.
       
      Washington’s consolation score with just under 3-minutes remaining allowed rookie Terry McLaurin to add a touchdown to his debut season.
       
      The Redskins have developed a reputation for not responding well to adjustments. They had little answer for the adjustments Dallas made to their offense. Ditto the game in Philadelphia.
       
      In both, Washington had a lead to protect and could not.
       
      Coming into the season the defense was expected to the be the strength of the team. Yet in two games they have surrendered 910 yards (445 per game) and 63 points. Not exactly setting the world on fire.
       
      Statistically the Redskins defense are near the bottom in points allowed and yards surrendered.
       
      The coach wants to blame injuries. Not only the their excellent young nose tackle in Jonathan Allen, but also to the secondary which has already gone significant realignment to accommodate injuries to Quinton Dunbar and Fabian Moreau.
       
      Still, with the specter of a season going off the rails after only two games, the fans want someone to blame.
       
      Wont be the quarterback. Case Keenum has completed 68.2 percent of his passes. He has thrown 3 touchdowns against no interceptions.
      Ditto other skill positions. Adrian Peterson did not his best outing but the team abandoned the run early. The receivers are doling their own, with guys like McLaurin shining.
       
      And as bad as the collapse was last week and the home loss this, it feels too early to call for the head coach.
       
      That leaves those in charge of the defense. Specifically, Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky.
       
      Fan ire seems more and more to be falling on Manusky, if sentiment on twitter and sports radio means anything.
       
      But they don’t decide who stays and who leaves. That is the job of the head coach who so far, is backing his guy.
       
      But there is a higher authority at Redskins Park. Legend has it owner Daniel Snyder once put a gallon of vanilla ice cream outside a Redskins defensive coordinator’s door following a poor performance by the defense.  
       
      Given the start to this season, Manusky could be hearing the ice cream truck in his sleep. And that would be better than what many of the fans are wishing for him.
       
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33 minutes ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

I think both AP and Charles are washed up.  

 

Even in their “washed up” state, they’re both better than Rob Kelley by miles.  Kelley is a scrub, who actually hinders our offense with his inability to impact our run game, and more importantly, our ability to run a competent red zone offense.  Do you really want to deal with “2 Yards & a cloud of dust” Rob Kelley for one more year?

 

They might not not have a choice but to sign AP or JC, because Jay Gruden’s job depends on how the team performs.  If we have a ****ty running game again this year, I promise you that we’ll be lucky to win 7 games, and I don’t have to tell you what will happen to the coach & front office if another losing season occurs.

 

Losing Guice was a pretty substantial blow to our offense, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.  If he was even half-way there to living up to the hype, we would be talking about our red zone offense, and running game being greatly improved compared to what we've had to deal with since Alfred Morris' first two seasons.  We need a vet who can get you those 3rd-1's and 4th-1's.

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Vikings cut Cobra Kai in favor of a rookie. Looks like his length strength just isn't good enough these days.

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1 minute ago, 98ORAKPO98 said:

You sure?

It's all over twitter in the last 5 minutes. Confirmed.

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20 minutes ago, samy316 said:

 

Even in their “washed up” state, they’re both better than Rob Kelley by miles.  Kelley is a scrub, who actually hinders our offense with his inability to impact our run game, and more importantly, our ability to run a competent red zone offense.  Do you really want to deal with “2 Yards & a cloud of dust” Rob Kelley for one more year?

 

They might not not have a choice but to sign AP or JC, because Jay Gruden’s job depends on how the team performs.  If we have a ****ty running game again this year, I promise you that we’ll be lucky to win 7 games, and I don’t have to tell you what will happen to the coach & front office if another losing season occurs.

 

Losing Guice was a pretty substantial blow to our offense, whether anyone wants to admit it or not.  If he was even half-way there to living up to the hype, we would be talking about our red zone offense, and running game being greatly improved compared to what we've had to deal with since Alfred Morris' first two seasons.  We need a vet who can get you those 3rd-1's and 4th-1's.

 

Last year AP averaged 3 yds per carry for the Saints and 3.5 for the Cardinals and 1.9 for the Vikings the previous year, while Kelley averaged 3.1 for the Skins.  And 4.1 the previous year

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6 minutes ago, carex said:

 

Last year AP averaged 3 yds per carry for the Saints and 3.5 for the Cardinals and 1.9 for the Vikings the previous year, while Kelley averaged 3.1 for the Skins.  And 4.1 the previous year

 

Rob Kelley on his best day couldn't lace the shoes of AP.  Go look at the O-Lines of the Cards & Saints, and then go take a look at our O-Line comparatively,  The Cards have one of the worst O-Lines in football, as does the Vikings.  As for the Saints, he wasn't used enough for a comparative sample size.  Remember his outburst at Sean Payton week 1 last year?  It wasn't going to work out there.  He should have NO issues with that hear.  He's going to get his chances, just for the fact alone that R. Kelley can't convert 3rd & 1's regularly.  When we're in the red zone this year, we're going to be far better off with Peterson than we would Kelley.

 

I'm not saying he's going to be back to 1400 Yard/14 TD per year AP, but if he's able to give you a 7-800 season with a 4.0 YPC and 8+TD's, he's going to blow away whatever Kelley gives you in return.

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5 minutes ago, samy316 said:

 

Even in their “washed up” state, they’re both better than Rob Kelley by miles.  Kelley is a scrub, who actually hinders our offense with his inability to impact our run game, and more importantly, our ability to run a competent red zone offense.  Do you really want to deal with “2 Yards & a cloud of dust” Rob Kelley for one more year?

 

They might not not have a choice but to sign AP or JC, because Jay Gruden’s job depends on how the team performs.  If we have a ****ty running game again this year, I promise you that we’ll be lucky to win 7 games, and I don’t have to tell you what will happen to the coach & front office if another losing season occurs.

 

I don't think AP is that much better than Kelley at this point in their careers.  AP averaged 3.4 ypc last year versus Kelley's 3.1 ypc, take away those two big games AP had and that drops way down to 2.5 ypc.  As I was responding I just read that we signed AP, so oh well.

 

I didn't want AP or Charles, but at least Charles was healthy last season and had 4.3 ypc last year in Denver and is former teammates with A. Smith so there is chemistry.  If we were going to sign either, I'd have rather it been Charles.

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10 minutes ago, samy316 said:

I'm not saying he's going to be back to 1400 Yard/14 TD per year AP, but if he's able to give you a 7-800 season with a 4.0 YPC and 8+TD's, he's going to blow away whatever Kelley gives you in return.

 

I don't think he's going to give us 700-800 yards and 8 TDs.  That's a pipe dream.  With that said, I hope he does or even more as he is a Redskin now.  So there is no further need to debate anything.  We will get to see what he brings :cheers:

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2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Good segment on RB's now with @RyanWilson_07. Speculated that names like Mike Gillislee, Charcandrick West, Jeremy Hill could be cut soon. All better options than AP in my opinion.

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But would any of those guys take a one year, no guranteed deal?

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47 minutes ago, samy316 said:

 

Rob Kelley on his best day couldn't lace the shoes of AP.  Go look at the O-Lines of the Cards & Saints, and then go take a look at our O-Line comparatively,  The Cards have one of the worst O-Lines in football, as does the Vikings. 

umm.. Kamara and Ingram on Saints and DJ on cards would disagree with you. What exactly has Skins oline done for RBs lately that makes you think that we will have a better running game?

Personally i think AP is washed up and pretty much a 2down thumper at this point. Skins probably only got him because he was the only one willing to sign a vet min deal.

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57 minutes ago, samy316 said:

 

Rob Kelley on his best day couldn't lace the shoes of AP.  Go look at the O-Lines of the Cards & Saints, and then go take a look at our O-Line comparatively,  The Cards have one of the worst O-Lines in football, as does the Vikings.  As for the Saints, he wasn't used enough for a comparative sample size.  Remember his outburst at Sean Payton week 1 last year?  It wasn't going to work out there.  He should have NO issues with that hear.  He's going to get his chances, just for the fact alone that R. Kelley can't convert 3rd & 1's regularly.  When we're in the red zone this year, we're going to be far better off with Peterson than we would Kelley.

 

I'm not saying he's going to be back to 1400 Yard/14 TD per year AP, but if he's able to give you a 7-800 season with a 4.0 YPC and 8+TD's, he's going to blow away whatever Kelley gives you in return.

 

Kelley's rookie year he gave us 700 yds so maybe not so much better as you think

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Really looking forward to the thread title to be updated from the previous most recent signing of camp fodder, Isiah Williams...

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2 hours ago, carex said:

 

Last year AP averaged 3 yds per carry for the Saints and 3.5 for the Cardinals and 1.9 for the Vikings the previous year, while Kelley averaged 3.1 for the Skins.  And 4.1 the previous year

 

He also had Blaine Gabbert as his QB for the better part of the year... I mean, do you guys remember when we played AZ last year? Gabbert legitimately put on one of the worst displays of a starting QB that I've ever seen in the NFL.

 

I don't think AP is going to come in and play at a Pro Bowl level, but we needed another RB, and like it or not, we are all in this year after the trade for Alex Smith. I am perfectly fine with the signing. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said:

 

I don't think he's going to give us 700-800 yards and 8 TDs.  That's a pipe dream.  With that said, I hope he does or even more as he is a Redskin now.  So there is no further need to debate anything.  We will get to see what he brings :cheers:

 

He had 450 in 6 games with the 'Zona OL. I think he can get 800 in 16 here. Actually, that tracks for 1200. We'll see.

 

And, even in 2018, I think he's much better than anything else not named Guice here.

1 hour ago, carex said:

 

Kelley's rookie year he gave us 700 yds so maybe not so much better as you think

 

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8 minutes ago, OVCChairman said:

Should we kick the tires?  

 

He's faster than the other dude we signed not named Adrian Peterson. Maybe? I'm still looking to sign someone, but I've got others guys I'm looking at.

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Just saw this, Incognito has been tossed around as a name to possibly bring in, Just one more reason to say NO. He needs help.

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/21/richie-incognito-arrested-for-disorderly-conduct-threats/

 

"Free-agent offensive lineman Richie Incognito has had a difficult and troubling few days, starting with the death of his father over the weekend.

The Scottsdale, Arizona police department has confirmed that Incognito was arrested Monday on counts of disorderly conduct and threats arising from an incident at Messingers Funeral Home in Scottsdale. As of this posting, Incognito remains in custody.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Incognito allegedly created a disturbance by “acting erratically and making the employees feel incredibly uncomfortable” while handling arrangements for his late father. Incognito allegedly made a gun gesture toward one of the employees, and he said that he has guns in his truck.

According to the source, weapons were indeed in his truck, and the weapons were impounded."

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