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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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2018 Free Agency Database - (Signed: WILLIAMS - McPhee - Scandrick - P-Rich) - (Lauvao, Bergstrom, Nsehke, Taylor, Z. Brown and Quick re-signed)

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9 hours ago, OVCChairman said:

Me too, but reports are that he wants to hit free agency before he makes any deal to be anywhere.  Also seen cap ramifications regarding the signing bonus with signing him prior to the start of the new league year.  

I think IF the Skins offered him a salary averaging 8 mill a year for 4 years with 18 mill guaranteed he's sign with us.

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15 hours ago, method man said:

If we can't resign ZB, is Ryan Anderson the guy who should be next to Foster? He's blocked today by a host of rush guys at the OLB spot

 

I know that was talked about a few times this past season and he was taking reps there.

 

Anderson is an effort guy/high-IQ guy.  I'm expecting him to take a big leap this next year wherever he plays.

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15 hours ago, method man said:

If we can't resign ZB, is Ryan Anderson the guy who should be next to Foster? He's blocked today by a host of rush guys at the OLB spot

 

I've seen some pre-draft talk of Anderson could convert to MLB but don't recall ever hearing the coaches mention the possibility.  The one thing I wonder about that was one of the knocks on him for edge rusher is lack of speed and agility -- wouldn't that be exposed even more at MLB?

 

 

Chris Russell was going on yesterday saying from what he's heard he's thinking Zach Brown won't be back.  Now Tandler kicking in

 

http://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/need-know-redskins-week-was-qb-shopping-browns-status?utm_content=bufferefe68&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Will Zach Brown stay with the Redskins or go? I’m not sure if the Redskins will be able to re-sign Brown. I wouldn’t call him a player the team absolutely must sign but if they don’t bring him back they need someone who can have the same impact that Brown had on the defense. Whether that means drafting Roquan Smith or Tremaine Edmunds or finding a free agent with Brown’s sideline-to-sideline impact they can’t simply let him walk without coming up with a quality alternative. If they don’t, the defense, which actually did improve some last year, is likely to slide back downhill.

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8 hours ago, RWJ said:

I think IF the Skins offered him a salary averaging 8 mill a year for 4 years with 18 mill guaranteed he's sign with us.

3 years 21m, 12 guaranteed.

 

HTTR 

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I keep seeing swirling rumors of Skins interest in Jarvis Landry on day 1 of FA.  Is he worth $14-15 mil that he's supposedly wanting?

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Just now, HigSkin said:

I keep seeing swirling rumors of Skins interest in Jarvis Landry on day 1 of FA.  Is he worth $14-15 mil that he's supposedly wanting?

No,  Ryan Grant is absolutely ready to explode.

 

/sarcasm 

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32 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

No,  Ryan Grant is absolutely ready to explode.

 

/sarcasm 

 

I am so sick of the damn Ryan Grant obsession.  Oh, the coach wants to keep a versatile backup who works his ass off in practice.  He hasn't cost the Skins any players and any time he's been on the field it's been because the people above him are hurt, and the people below him haven't beaten him out

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4 hours ago, HigSkin said:

I keep seeing swirling rumors of Skins interest in Jarvis Landry on day 1 of FA.  Is he worth $14-15 mil that he's supposedly wanting?

 

Yes, absolutely he is. Can't get him and re-sign Cousins and still add to defense though.

 

If Cousins goes elsewhere then definitely get Landry, a top OG, and the D pieces desired. We could draft a QB round 1 then, like Mason Rudolph, who would come in to a really good situation with what should be a top 10 D and an offense with plenty of weapons.

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4 hours ago, HigSkin said:

I keep seeing swirling rumors of Skins interest in Jarvis Landry on day 1 of FA.  Is he worth $14-15 mil that he's supposedly wanting?

Landry is a beast but he is a slot guy, wonder how they would make that work here with Crowder.

 

But Ive been scoping out everything I can. I have not stumbled on Landry to the Redskins, where are you seeing it?

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23 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Landry is a beast but he is a slot guy, wonder how they would make that work here with Crowder.

 

But Ive been scoping out everything zi can. I have not stumbled on Landry to the Redskins, where are you seeing it?

 

Just from sniffing around some local twitter accounts and October write ups when there was speculation Skins were looking to trade for a WR before the deadline.  He was mentioned but nothing "official" :-)

 

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4 hours ago, carex said:

 

I am so sick of the damn Ryan Grant obsession.  Oh, the coach wants to keep a versatile backup who works his ass off in practice.  He hasn't cost the Skins any players and any time he's been on the field it's been because the people above him are hurt, and the people below him haven't beaten him out

I’m fine with that.  The problem is that he’s been plugged in as a starter.  And the Skins haven’t prioritized getting somebody more talented who CAN beat him out.

 

To me, he is the absolute personification of the complete dysfunction of the FO.  

 

I have nothing against Grant.  Great 4th or 5th guy.

 

But our FO plugged him in as a starter last year.  And “we’re going to do everything we can to bring him back.”

 

Thats a dumb statement to begin with for a guy who should be competing for a roster spot. 

 

 

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http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35462/zach-browns-price-tag-will-be-high-leaving-redskins-with-tough-decision

 

The Redskins could decide instead to invest in another defensive lineman (Bennie Logan is a pending free agent and there was some interest in him last season) and a cheaper inside linebacker. They might decide they want a linebacker better in coverage than Brown or one who could handle playcalling duties as well -- at a lower cost. But ... that speed.

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1 minute ago, HigSkin said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35462/zach-browns-price-tag-will-be-high-leaving-redskins-with-tough-decision

 

The Redskins could decide instead to invest in another defensive lineman (Bennie Logan is a pending free agent and there was some interest in him last season) and a cheaper inside linebacker. They might decide they want a linebacker better in coverage than Brown or one who could handle playcalling duties as well -- at a lower cost. But ... that speed.

I don’t care what they do at ILB as long as whoever they get has physical talent and isn’t just Will Compton II.  If they get a “super smart effort guy” they’re going to struggle up the middle... again.

 

If they choose to go a different direction than Brown because they don’t believe he can improve in coverage, I can live with that as long as plan B isn’t obviously dumb.

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Makes you wonder how they really feel about Spaight... Heard multiple people comment about how fast our ILBs are when it was Brown / Spaight in the middle.  You wonder if they're leaning toward a Foster @ Mike with Spaight @ Moe, and are willing to let Brown play hardball knowing that he's a want and not a 'need' in their opinion.  If they go that route, we'd be looking at Foster / Spaight staring with Vigil backing up... i'd have to imagine we would have to draft someone with hopes that they would take over for Foster after his 2 year deal runs out? 

 

Not saying that is the move I would make, but the thought popped into my head this afternoon the more I hear smoke that Brown wants to test his value. 

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6 hours ago, HigSkin said:

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/35462/zach-browns-price-tag-will-be-high-leaving-redskins-with-tough-decision

 

The Redskins could decide instead to invest in another defensive lineman (Bennie Logan is a pending free agent and there was some interest in him last season) and a cheaper inside linebacker. They might decide they want a linebacker better in coverage than Brown or one who could handle playcalling duties as well -- at a lower cost. But ... that speed.

I'm hearing that he'll more than likely work out a deal with us but it remains to be seen, HigSkin.

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7 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I’m fine with that.  The problem is that he’s been plugged in as a starter.  And the Skins haven’t prioritized getting somebody more talented who CAN beat him out.

 

To me, he is the absolute personification of the complete dysfunction of the FO.  

 

I have nothing against Grant.  Great 4th or 5th guy.

 

But our FO plugged him in as a starter last year.  And “we’re going to do everything we can to bring him back.”

 

Thats a dumb statement to begin with for a guy who should be competing for a roster spot. 

 

 

 

he has never been plugged in as a starter, he's started because no one else could.  Our starters last season going in were Pryor, Doctson and Crowder

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Beau Allen the Eagle's NT could be an under the radar signing for us. $3/4m a year sounds good if you don't resign Hood, it's only a couple of million more cap for a younger and more hungrier player. I would also draft Vita Vea in 1st round as well unless we don't re-sign Cousin's then it might be QB.

 

HTTR 

 

 

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11 hours ago, carex said:

 

he has never been plugged in as a starter, he's started because no one else could.  Our starters last season going in were Pryor, Doctson and Crowder

That’s factually incorrect.  

 

Pryorvwas signed as an insurance policy to Doctson and they both played the X position.  Grant was starter at Y, Crowder Z.  And at times Crowder might play Y.

 

Gruden said this in a presser when he was pressed why Doctson and Pryor weren’t splitting time.

 

THE PLAN was Doctson/Pryor on one side, Grant on the other, and Crowder in the slot.  I know this because Gruden said it. 

 

It it was then and remains now a dumb plan. And more than that, an obviously dumb plan.

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I'm still baffled about how Quick was (not) used.  How does a guy that supposedly had the best camp get so few opportunities (and seemed to play pretty well when he did) with a receiving corp as lacking as ours was last year?  

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30 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said:

Could see us taking a look at Doug Martin if the Bucs cut him.

I hope not. He is done.   I hered somewhere the falcons might trade or release Tevin Coleman. I think he would be a better vet option.

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39 minutes ago, rumplestilskin said:

I hope not. He is done.   I hered somewhere the falcons might trade or release Tevin Coleman. I think he would be a better vet option.

Barely a vet too. He’s gonna be a 3rd year right?

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40 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Barely a vet too. He’s gonna be a 3rd year right?

HE was drafted in 2015 so he will be a fourth year. Either way he would be a sneaky get for us. He is good in pass protection has breakaway speed and great hands. 

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