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      In today's Divisional Debacle, the Defense under Greg Manusky in the first half, gave up 207 yards of offense (105 rushing/102 passing) and two touchdowns.  That said, they did manage a single INT on which the Offense actually managed to score a touchdown off of. They allowed 12 of 16 passes to be completed . 
       
      In the second half it was 107 yards given up (58 rushing//49 passing) a field goal and a touchdown. They traded their first half pick for a second half sack. However, Dallas completed all five of their pass attempts. 
       
      Don't read that thinking "Well it seems like they tightened up some in the 2nd half."  They didn't. They simply had about half the plays in the second half. 30 plays in the First and 18 in the Second.
       
      So far in two Divisional matchups, the Defense has faltered in the Second half. They start out like a house of fire for the first few drives until their opponents gradually make adjustments. This Defensive coaching staff fails make any adjustments, whether in game or at the very least at Halftime. They've given up over 30 points per game for a total of 63 points given up in two games. While the Bears are up next, the Pats await and they've put up over 70 points in two games. Yeah. Ok. They did shut out the Dolphins today which is looking like the NFL version of ... ahem... shooting fish in a barrel. 
       
      The frustrating thing is Manusky is the DC that the Front Office actively looked to replace during the off season without firing him. When you know they're looking to replace you, most people would make a concentrated effort to show an improvement. Yet Manusky's Defense still keeps acting like it's starring in Groundhog Day.
       
      In his post game presser, when asked directly about if any coaching changes would be made, Gruden said "No, I think after two games – you’re talking about playing two very good offensive football teams and two of the best offensive lines in pro football we just played back-to-back. That’s no excuse whatsoever, but I don’t think we need to hit the panic button yet. We just have to continue to focus on what we can do better to win. Get Jonathan [Allen] in here, get a couple of our corners back in here and let’s go back and strap it up against Chicago [Bears] next week and see what happens.” 
       
      Here's another frustrating thing. The defensive communication was an issue last season as well. Wasn't this supposed to have been worked on during OTA's and Training Camp? It's understandable that the rookies would still be on a learning curve, but NFL vets like Collins and DRC you'd think they would have down by the start of the season. 
       
      Gruden said they're a very talented group on Defense but that they weren't reaching them. When questioned as to why the coaching staff that has been in place for several years, wasn't reaching them, he defended the comment as them being a young defense. “We have some moving parts now. Landon Collins is a veteran guy but this is his first year, [Montez] Sweat’s in his first year, [Cole] Holcomb, it’s his first year, [Jon] Bostic is in his first year. We’re playing Dominique [Rodgers-Cromartie] at corner and this is Jimmy Moreland’s first year, so it’s not like we are the most experienced group. We feel like were very talented, but we`re still fighting through somethings. There are a lot of things to look forward to, without a doubt, but we do have to play better and strap it up and get back to work."

       
       
       
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2018 Free Agency Database - (Signed: WILLIAMS - McPhee - Scandrick - P-Rich) - (Lauvao, Bergstrom, Nsehke, Taylor, Z. Brown and Quick re-signed)

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14 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

I like Mason, it's a good signing, but all things considered, Zach Brown is what changed the LB core (when the starters were healthy).  He brought the extra speed, skill, and intangibles.  

Yeah, Mason Foster isn't going to look so hot beside Vigil or Compton.  We've seen that show before.

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14 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

Yeah, Mason Foster isn't going to look so hot beside Vigil or Compton.  We've seen that show before.

 

Vigil and Spaight looked pretty good together so if worst comes to worst they migt work next to Foster

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6 minutes ago, carex said:

 

Vigil and Spaight looked pretty good together so if worst comes to worst they migt work next to Foster

We have different definitions for pretty good.

 

Perhaps against slow, plodding teams but they will get blown away by teams with speed.

 

Spaight isn't slow, but he's extremely hit or miss, literally.

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7 minutes ago, carex said:

 

Vigil and Spaight looked pretty good together so if worst comes to worst they migt work next to Foster

 

You're kidding right?

 

Spaight was personally responsible for at least 20 points against the last two games.

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28 minutes ago, Paul Cumberland said:

Norwell's been discussed here.  Look like Giants are targeting him

 

Said the other day Gettleman signed Norwell as an undrafted free agent. I expect him to sign for the Giants. Anything else would be a nice surprise.

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7 hours ago, NoCalMike said:

I like Mason, it's a good signing, but all things considered, Zach Brown is what changed the LB core (when the starters were healthy).  He brought the extra speed, skill, and intangibles.  

I can't disagree with this, but it's worth considering how much the play of Ioannidas and Allen changed things for the backers. 

 

With that said, and even though Vigil stepped up and played well, that speed from Brown was something we previously lacked on D. 

If we manage to re-sign Brown and add a NT/DT in the 1st, I'm going to feel quite good about this defense.  

 

If Brown walks, I wonder what we do with that cash.  Simply re-sign our own?  Do we pursue Logan or Poe, or look to spend (more) on a receiver?  

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Just remember that while Brown is a fan favorite, he can't cover a bed with fitted sheets. No more than 6 million for him and that's on the high side. There is a reason he didn't get much love in free agency last year. Also Sheldon Richardson is out there for the Poe and Logan lovers. I believe he is the better player and fits the scheme and rotation a lot more.

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I think Foster is a good signing - I have liked him since he has been here. I would like to see him next to brown but if we were able to bolster the big guys up front then Foster is always going to look better. I think Brown hits the market but I still don't see there is a strong market for the ILB - I suspect he will find the market a little better than a year ago but he is not going to be blown away by offers - but I do really like him. 

 

I think the FO is going to be very careful how it structures things - and plan for a big bill in March one way or the another...  

 

The other point is - it is actually nice to see the FO doing something and being active  - last year we talked to no one other than Vernon Davis pretty much until the eve of free agency 

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32 minutes ago, bedlamVR said:

 

 

The other point is - it is actually nice to see the FO doing something and being active  - last year we talked to no one other than Vernon Davis pretty much until the eve of free agency 

We signed Morgan Moses to an extension 2 weeks before Vernon Davis.   I do agree, that I like having an earlier jump on things instead of pressing and coming down to it.  Now we need to make a decision on Kirk, one way or the other, and we need to take every shot at Brown that we can.  

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1 hour ago, fordranger76 said:

Just remember that while Brown is a fan favorite, he can't cover a bed with fitted sheets. No more than 6 million for him and that's on the high side. There is a reason he didn't get much love in free agency last year. Also Sheldon Richardson is out there for the Poe and Logan lovers. I believe he is the better player and fits the scheme and rotation a lot more.

Yeah, couldn’t remember for sure if he was a FA.  I agree that he’d be a better fit.  Poe concerns me due to weight and I seriously doubt he helps our DT rotation in nickel.  

 

As for ILBs - Walter has Bowman and Williamson (TEN) as the top ILBs available... I’m curious how we look to replace Brown if he walks.  

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15 minutes ago, skinny21 said:

As for ILBs - Walter has Bowman and Williamson (TEN) as the top ILBs available... I’m curious how we look to replace Brown if he walks.  

 

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We should have done this last year instead of wasting money on the McC's, but better late than never:

 

CSN Mid-Atlantic's Rich Tandler expects the Redskins to be interested in impending free agent NT Bennie Logan.
The Redskins chased Logan last offseason as a free agent, but he chose a one-year, $8 million deal in Kansas City and bet on himself. Logan's play dipped a bit with the Chiefs getting smeared in run defense, but Logan just turned 28. Washington hasn't had a true nose tackle the past couple years. Jan 26 - 9:59 AM
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The Redskins aren't expected to re-sign impending free agent LG Shawn Lauvao.

Starting C Spencer Long is also set to be a free agent. Long opened his career as the Redskins' left guard, but the team also doesn't want him there. Lauvao is now 30 and always seems to be hurt, ending three of the last four seasons on IR. Washington's line crumbled with injuries this past year.
 
 
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I really hope our investment in the lines continues.  I have to admit, this regime has put a major emphasis on the LOS, and now we can seemingly lock up our O-line for the next 4-5 years if we handle this correctly.  

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2 hours ago, HTTRDynasty said:

We should have done this last year instead of wasting money on the McC's, but better late than never:

 

CSN Mid-Atlantic's Rich Tandler expects the Redskins to be interested in impending free agent NT Bennie Logan.
The Redskins chased Logan last offseason as a free agent, but he chose a one-year, $8 million deal in Kansas City and bet on himself. Logan's play dipped a bit with the Chiefs getting smeared in run defense, but Logan just turned 28. Washington hasn't had a true nose tackle the past couple years. Jan 26 - 9:59 AM

 

Logan would be one of my premier FA targets. To be fair I think we made a very strong push to get him last year, but he along with Poe decided one year prove it deals suited them better. That was no good for us at the time.

 

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10 minutes ago, RWJ said:

I would like to see a LTD come together with Zac Brown soon.

Me too, but reports are that he wants to hit free agency before he makes any deal to be anywhere.  Also seen cap ramifications regarding the signing bonus with signing him prior to the start of the new league year.  

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We can lose Brown. ILB is one of the cheaper positions in todays NFL.

 

What matters is the guys up front. Zach Brown wouldn't be flying around the backfield making plays playing behind the 2016 D-Line. 

 

Continue to rebuild the D-Line; need a strong replacement for Ziggy Hood. 

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16 minutes ago, Mooka said:

We can lose Brown. ILB is one of the cheaper positions in todays NFL.

 

What matters is the guys up front. Zach Brown wouldn't be flying around the backfield making plays playing behind the 2016 D-Line. 

 

Continue to rebuild the D-Line; need a strong replacement for Ziggy Hood. 

I know it's unpopular, but I'm with you on that.  I would not pay Zach Brown 10M a season.  Lucky for us though, I don't think anyone else will either.  I want him back but don't want to pay 10M for a 2 down MLB under any circumstances.

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If we can't resign ZB, is Ryan Anderson the guy who should be next to Foster? He's blocked today by a host of rush guys at the OLB spot

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17 minutes ago, method man said:

If we can't resign ZB, is Ryan Anderson the guy who should be next to Foster? He's blocked today by a host of rush guys at the OLB spot

I wouldn’t rule it out, but he’s now next man up at OLB unless Galette or Murphy re-sign, and we have Vigil and Spaight at ILB.  

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If Brown won't sign with us before FA for under $10 mil/yr then let him hit FA. He is fast and can run stop, but can't cover well and doesn't call plays. reat for lots of tackles though. He's very good, but ILB is not expensive these days and I don't think the market will give him 10/yr eaither, just like last year.

 

If he doesn't sign with us before FA at $8mil/yr or less, then I wouldn't be surprised if we get him back after the FA market sets Brown's value for $6-8/yr. Brown is very good, not elite IMO. But I'll take very good at $6-8/yr at ILB.

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@DC9Yeah, all the mocks have him going before our pick, but I wouldn’t complain if he fell to us. :)

 

If we somehow re-sign Cousins, I’d rather land a DL in the 1st, but if we don’t, nabbing a top DL in FA and then Smith in the 1st would be a coup.  

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