TSO Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, bobandweave said: Now I am feeling intimidated here speaking to you, especially with that dig you just shot at me but out of respect to you my reply is below. Maybe I misread you, maybe I read you correctly. Either way I don't see it doing me any good to argue with a moderator when I think they are wrong. It would only cause me issues that I don't need. Everyone's entitled to an opinion so this is the only reply I will give to this subject of "the more significant reason for the last two season ending losses is the Defense and not Kirk Cousins" which isn't supported by any metrics out there in my opinion. No need to feel intimidated, we are posters first, Mods second. As long as you don’t break any rules, and you haven’t here, you’re fine, and that applies to all of us. There really was no point in even mentioning this. Also, I’m not sure why you think I took a shot at you, you definitely did read it wrong. As for the points you made here, I’m going to save everyone from another Kirk debate and start with the fact that my post still stands and I believe refutes everything you’ve said here. So without going into each point you made in detail, the key is that I never said Kirk’s play was good or acceptable, just that there is a context for it. So your Kirk stats mean little to this discussion, and your Eli stats even less. I believe the run defense had more of a negative impact than anything else, including Kirk’s play which was directly affected by it (and not just his, but the entire offense’s, both in play calling and in performance). I’m 99% sure that if they performed better, and the TOP was more even in those losses (I certainly don’t agree with you downplaying those numbers there), that Jay/McVay, Kirk and the passing game would’ve eventually got it going, even if it took until the 4th quarter. Because that’s what has happened in the past - even against the same team. Any game that follows a similar script is going to be tough on our offense. It’s not about Kirk, Alex, Jay, McVay, whoever. It’s tough when you’re not getting possessions consistently, sitting on the bench for 6-8 minutes at a time, and doing that against a defense that can completely shut down your own rushing attack. I don’t see anyone doing well in that scenario, so it’s no surprise to me that that’s exactly what happened in both games. A team like the Giants who suck at running the ball should not have been able to. It’s inexcusable. And it absolutely affected and impacted the performance of everyone else offensively. In the end, we both agree that the run defense needs to be fixed immediately. It’s the biggest problem. You’re just going to have to forgive me for seeing it as such in those Giants’ games, as well. Sign Hankins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidFan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 So I sez to Mabel I sez.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskin21502 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, tchrpe1 said: I think Williams and Logan could be guys that could come in and help the D-line. However, Hankins is young and his best football is stil ahead of him. Comes down to the money though. Skins are bargain hunting not sure Hankins will do a one year prove it deal. Bruce Allen has a chance to make up for some of the love lost towards him by signing Hankins so he probably won't pull the trigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolio47 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, boston skins fan said: So i work at a private airport in the new York area and redskins 1 just took off. Not really sure what this is meant to imply...is there a FA we're pursuing that I'm not aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, boston skins fan said: So i work at a private airport in the new York area and redskins 1 just took off. Dude why do you do such cruel thing like that to fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 We didn't re-sign Spencer Long? Why not? Injury? I thought he was good last year, but I can barely remember what I ate for breakfast so he coulda sucked balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanarcticstyle Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I wish I would stop getting fake Facebook news saying we signed Hankins. Then checking to verify here and finding it not to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooleyfan1993 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, skinsfanarcticstyle said: I wish I would stop getting fake Facebook news saying we signed Hankins. Then checking to verify here and finding it not to be true. Your fault for believing everything you see on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, boston skins fan said: So i work at a private airport in the new York area and redskins 1 just took off. Is that Hankins? Late flight in tonight for visit tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boston skins fan Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 55 minutes ago, Mr.Will said: Stop playin’!! Legit not playing. I tried snapping a pic. But I realized to late as it was taxiing 34 minutes ago, Coolio47 said: Not really sure what this is meant to imply...is there a FA we're pursuing that I'm not aware of? I think Hankins is from jersey. I'm just posting what I saw. We're doing work on the taxiway and I saw redskins 1 I've seen it before On that note bed time just worked 19hr and have to be back in 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorcooley1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, skinsfanarcticstyle said: I wish I would stop getting fake Facebook news saying we signed Hankins. Then checking to verify here and finding it not to be true. **** can facebook.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BgMase76# Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Jericho said: Everything is a possibility at the right price. Joeckel was drafted #2 overall for a reason and did look better at guard last year. Leonard Davis is a great example of a guy who resurrected his career that way. Hell, the Skins got some good games out of Mike Williams in a similar situation. So it's definitely possible. Just at what cost? I wouldn't sign him for $5 million, but at half that he seems worth a flyer Anything is possible but........ I just can't see paying this guy anything over minimum on a one year prove it deal. He got good money to go to Seattle. That line was atrocious. And he wasn't even the best OL. We'd be better off bringing back Lauvou ( however you spell it) As bad as he maybe, he's a known commodity. And I'm not interested in bringing him back at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BgMase76# Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, bobandweave said: Ever get the feeling that your better off just not starting because no matter what your probably gonna lose? Maybe you have, that's how your reply left me. I don't want to argue with you, we are all entitled to opinions right? You said this <MOD EDIT, RULE 11, DON’T QUOTE VIDS/PICS/LARGE CHUNKS OF TEXT> Dude, the last two seasons finale against what should have been an inferior divisional foe came up goose eggs. All these folks still crying over Cousins like he did something other than stuff his pockets and stat sheet. We get a QB who's more experienced and most importantly wants to be here. Cousins wears purple not burgundy and gold. Time for those folks to move on, cause Mr Smith is in DC now. And I only worry about my team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 @#BgMase76# I edited it out for you this time around, but please don’t quote large chunks of text per Rule 11. It unnecessarily clutters the board. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I'd take McPhee over Mayowa. wont cost us a 5th round comp pick either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 So did the Redskins cut McClain today? If not, how could they sign Hankins without looking totally incompetent for not cutting him? Or for matter draft a DT in the first round? (note McClain had to be cut today or he'd be guaranteed 3 mil). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Just woke up in the UK and surprise surprise no Hankins yet. If Allen ***** this up my 30 odd years as a Redskin fan will be hanging on by a very very small thread. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tchrpe1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Hoping that something will get done today. I was told Hankins was coming in on Sunday evening thru Monday. Maybe something in the AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, nonniey said: So did the Redskins cut McClain today? If not, how could they sign Hankins without looking totally incompetent for not cutting him? Or for matter draft a DT in the first round? (note McClain had to be cut today or he'd be guaranteed 3 mil). Mcclain and mcgee are potential post June 1st cuts. Right now it's too big of a bullet to bite (about $7,000,000 in dead cap weight) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Set up nicely for a couple of moves. Hankins clearly needs to be done, wonder if that's a game to go cheaper on Logan. Also like the fact we have multiple options on the go at OLB and CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markmills67 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 38 minutes ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: Set up nicely for a couple of moves. Hankins clearly needs to be done, wonder if that's a game to go cheaper on Logan. Also like the fact we have multiple options on the go at OLB and CB. Morning fellow Brit, Logan was possibly the best available 2 days ago, but now Hankins has become available out of the blue and personally I think he's only behind Suh in all the DT/NT who were available this year, if we want to be one of the best DL'S we cannot allow Hankins to leave without him becoming a Washington Redskin. There is no way a real GM would let Hankins leave the building without signing him for his team to a LTD, Allen has got a chance to go up in my estimation if he signs Hankins, surely even Allen can't **** this up. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 4 hours ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: I'd take McPhee over Mayowa. wont cost us a 5th round comp pick either. McPhee was cut by the Bears on Feb 26th so he won't cost us a draft pick. Click on http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6671/pernell-mcphee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 1 minute ago, RWJ said: McPhee was cut by the Bears on Feb 26th so he won't cost us a draft pick. Click on http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/6671/pernell-mcphee Yes, what i was meaning was he won't offset one of our comp picks we have netted for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 6 hours ago, boston skins fan said: Legit not playing. I tried snapping a pic. But I realized to late as it was taxiing I think Hankins is from jersey. I'm just posting what I saw. We're doing work on the taxiway and I saw redskins 1 I've seen it before On that note bed time just worked 19hr and have to be back in 5 Skins might have flown in to pick up Hankins. He played for the Giants for his first 4 years so he probably has a home there. Also, DRC last played for the Giants so maybe it's for him. 1 minute ago, UK SKINS FAN '74 said: Yes, what i was meaning was he won't offset one of our comp picks we have netted for next year. He can't any player straight out released will not count against any of our comp picks. That's what Allen is doing is building up as many comp picks as he can dealing with released players. Will have 3 or 4 comp picks next year, I believe when all is said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 Yikes! Seems like we need to wrap up Hankins and any other D holes then focus entirely on drafting Oline...LOL https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-ranking-all-32-offensive-lines-from-the-2017-nfl-season?utm_content=buffer7beac&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl 21. Washington Redskins Total pressures surrendered: 181Best player: Brandon ScherffCombinations used: 27 While Washington fielded two elite offensive linemen to start the season in left tackle Trent Williams and right guard Brandon Scherff, both of them struggled to stay on the field in 2017. As a matter of fact, the entire Washington line was marred by injuries a season ago as a whopping 11 offensive linemen played at least 140 snaps for the Redskins in 2017. The injuries had their impact and the Washington offensive line never really got into rhythm over the season. Redskins running backs averaged just 1.29 yards before contact, the fifth-fewest in the NFL while the unit allowed 25 sacks on the season, tied for the sixth-most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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