Bonez3 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, c slag said: Is this some kind of master plan Bruce Allen has with Smith and Cousins to pull a trade on draft day that will net the Redskins all kind of picks? Keep dreaming... but I do see a tag and trade easily executed with Cousins. look, having Alex smith on your roster ain't the worse thing in the world. Giving up Fuller and a 3rd is asinine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, c slag said: Is this some kind of master plan Bruce Allen has with Smith and Cousins to pull a trade on draft day that will net the Redskins all kind of picks? I think you are dreaming, but hey if you're going to dream make it a big one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Well, well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeermonkey Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, SWFLSkins said: Well, well... No idea what that means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 minute ago, thebeermonkey said: No idea what that means? Well Tea Leaves being read right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 Word is the FO is trying to work a Kirk trade to Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 We need to sign Kirk for a contract before trading him though... Until then, it's not gonna happen. Or are we gonna sign Kirk to a back up contract and trade Colt McCoy? This would be masterful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, TK said: Word is the FO is trying to work a Kirk trade to Denver. Can they even do that? Why would Denver put up anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Can they even do that? Why would Denver put up anything? Technically he’s still on the roster and if they want him before he hits free agency, they have to offer something. Then they could tag him or sign him to a LTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TK said: Word is the FO is trying to work a Kirk trade to Denver. Or what? The Redskins tag him and match any offer? Why would Kirk and/or any team agree to that? Makes no sense. The Redskins have devoted 100% of their cap space to qb at that point. Just silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Can they even do that? Why would Denver put up anything? That's what i've gotten so far Waiting on a call to hopefully flesh it out more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 To bad we don't have a downloadable copy of the CBA to dig through. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I've been digging for trade rules too and a lot of misinformation from media right now. Apparently, you can tag/sign/trade opening day of FA after agreeing in principal. I still feel like prior to all this stuff going down with Smith, Skins went to McCarthy and said look, we're going to tag him and if you want to be free we want to execute a trade. Go find a trading partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Just think, if Bruce had cut his losses last offseason, he gets value in a trade for Cousins. Most likely to SF. But because this FO tends to act like children, there wasn't any deal they'd take on that most likely. Still, Cousins value was much greater then. They could have turned that into Jimmy G. Then again that would require Bill to have some semblance of respect for Bruce to ship him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 44 minutes ago, HigSkin said: I've been digging for trade rules too and a lot of misinformation from media right now. Apparently, you can tag/sign/trade opening day of FA after agreeing in principal. I still feel like prior to all this stuff going down with Smith, Skins went to McCarthy and said look, we're going to tag him and if you want to be free we want to execute a trade. Go find a trading partner. PFT and Tandler wrote articles saying you can't because you have to absorb both salaries on the books of both Alex and Kirk to take that next step. But I wonder? Can't they delay the trade for a day or two? Trades don't happen from what I recall until both teams submit the papers for it. Having said that I wonder why Kirk would oblige? With the transition tag (before the trade) the Redskins had the threat of keeping Kirk in the fold. Now, that threat isn't real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 14 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Just think, if Bruce had cut his losses last offseason, he gets value in a trade for Cousins. Most likely to SF. But because this FO tends to act like children, there wasn't any deal they'd take on that most likely. Still, Cousins value was much greater then. They could have turned that into Jimmy G. Then again that would require Bill to have some semblance of respect for Bruce to ship him here. Last year they should have made it the non-exclusive tag. Then if he didn't want to be here teams would have had to give us something. Now there is little to no incentive. 4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: PFT and Tandler wrote articles saying you can't because you have to absorb both salaries on the books of both Alex and Kirk to take that next step. But I wonder? Can't they delay the trade for a day or two? Trades don't happen from what I recall until both teams submit the papers for it. Having said that I wonder why Kirk would oblige? With the transition tag (before the trade) the Redskins had the threat of keeping Kirk in the fold. Now, that threat isn't real. It was reported by skins and Fuller wasn't told. I wonder if they didn't want the info to get out just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Just think, if Bruce had cut his losses last offseason, he gets value in a trade for Cousins. Most likely to SF. But because this FO tends to act like children A trade to SF was NEVER going to happen because Dan wasn't going to help out Kyle. Because, well you already know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, TK said: A trade to SF was NEVER going to happen because Dan wasn't going to help out Kyle. Because, well you already know why. Exactly. Someone said SF offered a 2nd, 3rd and 4th last season. Not sure how true that is but if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, TK said: A trade to SF was NEVER going to happen because Dan wasn't going to help out Kyle. Because, well you already know why. If SF was willing to part with the 2nd overall last year then Dan is just as dumb as I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: I've been digging for trade rules too and a lot of misinformation from media right now. Apparently, you can tag/sign/trade opening day of FA after agreeing in principal. I still feel like prior to all this stuff going down with Smith, Skins went to McCarthy and said look, we're going to tag him and if you want to be free we want to execute a trade. Go find a trading partner. Bolded is what I understand too is that since KC is an UFA he must wait until 3 days before 2018 FA starts and then they can negotiate. The reason AS to DC took place is because AS was still under contract but the contract won't become official until the start of FA. Papers are filed but we wait until then. I don't know if McCartney is the kind of agent that would illegally (it happens a lot) talk on the side to other teams and have a trade set up tomorrow and agreed upon as an example. There has been a lot of speculation about Denver. Plus, we have to fork over between $28 to $29 mill. Right now we have a cap savings of $36,213,160 and this includes Smith's contract according http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-redskins/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, TK said: Word is the FO is trying to work a Kirk trade to Denver. Why on earth would Kirk agree to that? Kirk will want to test the market; so unless the Skins are allowing him to do that before free agency starts; I don't see him agree to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Kirk's gone and we're getting nothing for him(except a comp pick in 2019). Stop with these ridiculous trade scenarios. It's. Not. Happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c slag Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 5 hours ago, Bonez3 said: Keep dreaming... but I do see a tag and trade easily executed with Cousins. look, having Alex smith on your roster ain't the worse thing in the world. Giving up Fuller and a 3rd is asinine I wish all of this was just one bad dream uggggh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Kirk's gone and we're getting nothing for him(except a comp pick in 2019). Stop with these ridiculous trade scenarios. It's. Not. Happening. I'll bet that they don't get any comp pick because they are going to be signing some players to make this idiocy seem like the right move. Watch them add major upgrades to the offense and then proclaim victory when the offense looks almost as good next year as it did last year with 0 talent but Cousins instead of Checkdown Alex. They still won't win more than 8 games though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 3 hours ago, TK said: A trade to SF was NEVER going to happen because Dan wasn't going to help out Kyle. Because, well you already know why. GD, are you serious? That's petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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