BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Why on earth would AB want to come here? And why on earth would any fans want him here? A move like that has every reason to blow up in our faces. So yeah, they will probably do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fat Stupid Loser Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If Rosen becomes available, why? They are giving up on him in one season? Ya, lets get him. Brilliant!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 3/2/2019 at 8:55 AM, Skinsinparadise said: 8-8 and boring The Redskins have been worse than 8-8 for two years in a row. 2019 looks to continue the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fat Stupid Loser said: If Rosen becomes available, why? They are giving up on him in one season? Ya, lets get him. Brilliant!!!!! BA will probably give them our 1st and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Stupid Loser Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 And Bruce is still here I see. I'll be back in a couple months to check again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Fat Stupid Loser said: If Rosen becomes available, why? Because he'll be cheap. We'd be on the hook for the six million dollars of guaranteed money that the Cardinals still owe him, but in return we'd control him for the next three years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fat Stupid Loser said: And Bruce is still here I see. I'll be back in a couple months to check again. The pity party continues as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, TryTheBeal! said: The pity party continues as well. @Fat Stupid Loser where’s my invite to this pity party you’re holding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Tsailand said: Because he'll be cheap. We'd be on the hook for the six million dollars of guaranteed money that the Cardinals still owe him, but in return we'd control him for the next three years. We'd still have the 5th year (4th to us) option due to 1st round pick, right? Or is that option lost in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Fat Stupid Loser said: And Bruce is still here I see. I'll be back in a couple months to check again. I honestly think you can come back in August and he'll still be around. Maybe around December things will have gotten ugly and he will have been fired by then. But I doubt he's out before the start of the season right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 19 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Why on earth would AB want to come here? And why on earth would any fans want him here? A move like that has every reason to blow up in our faces. So yeah, they will probably do it. So if trade doesn’t happen, you’ll give them credit for not doing it? With that said, a healthy Alex Smith type QB would help with a Brown personality and Skins don’t have that. I wouldn’t be against the move if made but lean towards it not be the best fit. As I write this, I could convince myself Colt and Brown hitting it off. Colt being a well liked dude and Brown wanting to prove his greatness and doing it with a McCoy type QB would cement that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, wit33 said: So if trade doesn’t happen, you’ll give them credit for not doing it? Perhaps I’m missing something, but is there an actual trade on the table for them to say no to? As for Alex being the type of guy to tame Brown, what leads you believe that? Big Ben is a 2x SB champ QB, that is beloved by one of the premier fanbases in the NFL. Yet here we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 If the Cardinals "give up" on Rosen it's only bc of a weird confluence of events: they happened to get the #1 pick in a year that their new HC's favorite QB declared, and he chose football over baseball, which no one thought was realistic when the season ended. Not really something that has the opportunity to happen often, IF it happens. I still think Rosen is better than most of this year's prospects, if you can get him "cheap" (whatever that means) I think you go for it. For all we know they loved him last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 1 minute ago, ConnSKINS26 said: If the Cardinals "give up" on Rosen it's only bc of a weird confluence of events: they happened to get the #1 pick in a year that their new HC's favorite QB declared, and he chose football over baseball, which no one thought was realistic when the season ended. Not really something that has the opportunity to happen often, IF it happens. I still think Rosen is better than most of this year's prospects, if you can get him "cheap" (whatever that means) I think you go for it. For all we know they loved him last year. I am OK with Rosen depending on the price they pay to get him. And agree "if" is the operative word. Right now there is speculation that the Cards are going to draft Murray but we haven't heard yet that Rosen is definitely on the trading block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Stupid Loser Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 5 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: @Fat Stupid Loser where’s my invite to this pity party you’re holding? On its way bud. I sent one to Beal but he has a prior commitment to Brucefest 19. 6 hours ago, Tsailand said: Because he'll be cheap. Well, that's the Bruciest way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Skinhead in Saints Land Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I’m cool with Rosen for anything but a 1st. Maybe a 2nd and a player. It’s highly probable we would’ve spent a 1st or 2nd on a QB this year anyway. I love Rosen’s potential, but it didn’t really have a chance on a Cardinals team with a treacherous o-line, and not one coach that knew how to use David Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 hours ago, jsharrin55 said: We'd still have the 5th year (4th to us) option due to 1st round pick, right? Or is that option lost in a trade? I'm not sure, honestly. I know it would cost the average of the top 10 QBs. Same road we've been down before... 5 hours ago, A Skinhead in Saints Land said: I’m cool with Rosen for anything but a 1st. Maybe a 2nd and a player How about a third plus Trent Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tsailand said: How about a third plus Trent Williams? Yes, let's trade for a QB who was shellshocked behind a porous OL last year, and trade away our best offensive lineman in the process. Rosen would probably **** himself if that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 We need to replace Williams with someone younger, cheaper, healthier. Should be done this year. We have four picks in the first three rounds. I want us to spend two of those on O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tsailand said: We need to replace Williams with someone younger, cheaper, healthier. Should be done this year. We have four picks in the first three rounds. I want us to spend two of those on O-line. Yeah, he's only valuable when he's on the field, which is happening less and less frequently. And I don't see any reason to think that'll get better as he ages. He's costing a lot on the cap, his deal expires in two years, and re-signing him looks like a ridiculously bad investment. Getting something for him now would be the smart move. Which is why we won't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 9 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: Perhaps I’m missing something, but is there an actual trade on the table for them to say no to? I was responding to your issue if organization picked up Brown, the other side of coin is them not executing a trade. 9 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said: As for Alex being the type of guy to tame Brown, what leads you believe that? Big Ben is a 2x SB champ QB, that is beloved by one of the premier fanbases in the NFL. Yet here we are. Alex is a leader who does not appear to subscribe to idea of criticizing teammates publicly or creating a gap between himself and rest of players, as if he knows best. Not saying it’s wrong or can’t work, but it has chance to be combustible with other alpha males with cache and value to have issue with it. Didn’t work last year, as the team underachieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Getting something for him now would be the smart move. I'm not sure how much we could get. My trade for Rosen suggestion was optimistic. The trade value of a player is his expected performance minus his salary owed. Frankly, that number is close to zero for Williams. Unless a team overpays... I have just the team in mind, and it's not the Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakedtater1 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 It's gonna be a 3rd and j Norman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BatteredFanSyndrome Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 hours ago, wit33 said: I was responding to your issue if organization picked up Brown, the other side of coin is them not executing a trade. Alex is a leader who does not appear to subscribe to idea of criticizing teammates publicly or creating a gap between himself and rest of players, as if he knows best. Not saying it’s wrong or can’t work, but it has chance to be combustible with other alpha males with cache and value to have issue with it. Didn’t work last year, as the team underachieved. I don’t think the team is in any position to pick up Brown, financially or culturally. The guy is already at 17M APY and wants even more. That should be a hard pass for most every team, particularly the Redskins. I can’t even see how they could swing bringing him in here. However, I can see them thinking a name like Brown is just what the doctor ordered in hopes to fill seats. By all accounts, Alex is a great guy. Same with Colt. But neither guy has the ability to force feed the ego and hands of a guy like Brown. While there would be no worry of a guy like Alex or Colt airing him out in the press, the issue would be their inability to air him out on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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