HigSkin Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 One thing is for sure. Carolina before Rivera was fired were mediocre and without their starting QB. Now without Rivera they're a dumpster fire. Saints have already hung 35 pts on them before the half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: Leslie Frazier has never coached in Carolina. From what I gather, he has no connection to Ron at all. I think he's talking about Sean McDermott who was Ron's DC in Carolina before taking the Bills HC job. And Brandon Beane was the Asst GM in Carolina before getting the GM job in Buffalo. It's a valid question. Did the Panthers success follow those two to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said: Leslie Frazier has never coached in Carolina. From what I gather, he has no connection to Ron at all. Are you trolling me? ,😂 Sean McDermott was Ron his DC for the success years. And Brandon Beane was a high FO guy does years in Carolina. 1 minute ago, drowland said: I think he's talking about Sean McDermott who was Ron's DC in Carolina before taking the Bills HC job. And Brandon Beane was the Asst GM in Carolina before getting the GM job in Buffalo. It's a valid question. Did the Panthers success follow those two to Buffalo. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skin'emAlive Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, wilco_holland said: Are you trolling me? ,😂 Sean McDermott was Ron his DC for the success years. And Brandon Beane was a high FO guy does years in Carolina. This Im a moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 One perk to Rivera is we will play more of a 4-3 so we can actually make use of our DEs and not drop them into coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyst Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Someone else mentioned it earlier but even being in contention for a name like Rivera is pretty remarkable given the clownshow that is Ashburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, MisterPinstripe said: One perk to Rivera is we will play more of a 4-3 so we can actually make use of our DEs and not drop them into coverage. I like that, and can’t help but think Clemson’s hybrid LB Simmons may be viewed as near equal value to an edge rusher like Young in that defense? I still think I prefer Young to trading back a few spots to try to grab Simmons and add picks. Rivera’s defense was utter trash this year in Carolina (how could it not be with Perry Fewell as DB coach?), and hasn’t been as good in general since McDermott left for Buffalo. Here’s hoping he can assemble the right staff to rekindle the defensive magic, while keeping KOC at OC. I think we have a better base of defensive talent for him to work with than the past few Panthers teams have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaK9Trainer Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, MisterPinstripe said: One perk to Rivera is we will play more of a 4-3 so we can actually make use of our DEs and not drop them into coverage. I was just wondering that. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, dyst said: Someone else mentioned it earlier but even being in contention for a name like Rivera is pretty remarkable given the clownshow that is Ashburn. NFL jobs are highly desirable no matter the franchise. Working with ownership that might be difficult is part of the job, and the coaches who are good enough to get and keep HC gigs are copers and competitors that focus on finding solutions to problems instead of excuses to back out. And there is a definite appeal to the idea of being the guy who turns around the Redskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Birdlives said: Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. Agreed, and another related flaw of our structure and process, is that I get the feeling that moving back up to grab Sweat was partly to appease Gruden who was petulant about taking Haskins with our 1st. This is why the talent evaluators and decision makers need to be able to do their jobs without the shenanigans of the dysfunctional committee approach engendered in the current Redskins F.O. structure. PS: I think Sweat will pan out, and fare better in a 4-3 under improved DC design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin'emAlive Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Birdlives said: Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. Sweat is Kerrigans replacement. I have no worries about him going forward. Pair Sweat and Young together on the DL, with some creative blitzes drawn up, and I feel really good about our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, MisterPinstripe said: One perk to Rivera is we will play more of a 4-3 so we can actually make use of our DEs and not drop them into coverage. He ran a 3-4 before he got to Carolina. He seems to run what the personnel dictates. Which is just crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Which is just crazy. Hes a madman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Birdlives said: Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. Valid point, not only that, sweat was known as a 4-3 d end, but was asked to play in 3-4 and drop into coverage, so not exactly a great scheme fit for what we were doing. So if we are giving up valuable assets to get guys who aren't exactly addressing our needs, who is making those calls? Has it definitely been Bruce? I know that's an easy dig on him, but for all the ppl who are hoping Kyle Smith be brought back, can't some of these questionable moves be attributed to him as well? 3 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: He ran a 3-4 before he got to Carolina. He seems to run what the personnel dictates. Which is just crazy. He is crazy. Don't you know you have to force your scheme onto whatever group is in front of you? We have years of Redskins coaches who can attest to what a good idea that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drowland Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Birdlives said: Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. This is where trading Trent could help recoup that. Or if they do take Chase Young #2, trade Kerrigan. With the way Anderson has come on the 2nd half of the year they can afford to move someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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spjunkies Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 I could live with Meyer, at least I know allen won't bully him out of power. My only question is who will replace him in 2 years when he quits with "health concerns ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Dan are the fans buying this stadium -- reassignment gig? Cool. We will be calling the shots together in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, Birdlives said: Another indictment of Allen; Sweat better pan out because we gave up the 34th pick in a deep draft to get him. A mind like Rjvera and co. would get everything there is out of a guy like Montez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Lipstick on a pig. If Allen remains in the building, then all the deck chair reshuffling in the world won't get me to be optimistic on this team. I won't be happy till that piece of **** is gone entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 36 minutes ago, spjunkies said: I could live with Meyer, at least I know allen won't bully him out of power. My only question is who will replace him in 2 years when he quits with "health concerns ". That still hurts man... I just don't see why Meyer would take this job but not pick the HC. Wouldn't that be the recruitment to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, Stormy said: Agreed, and another related flaw of our structure and process, is that I get the feeling that moving back up to grab Sweat was partly to appease Gruden who was petulant about taking Haskins with our 1st. Yes i agree with that, Gruden pretty much gave that impression post draft that he wanted Sweat at #15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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