The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

[portis26a]

Would love this.

[Theismann07]

25 minutes ago, bakedtater1 said:

Theres also a reason spielman couldn't get a single players name right for the skins..calling Jeremy sprinkle something like tavon sprinkle or something lol..one to many dings to the head for that man

Oh, man....he was bad with the names on Sunday. He even said that Sammy Baugh was the only one to have his jersey retired by the Eagles....what????🤪

[PartyPosse]

36 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

i don't like this idea at all.  A coach's mentality is to do whatever it takes to win this Sunday, so they do not always have what's best for the team long term in mind.  And if he is the one in charge that's when a team makes short sighted trades designed to win this Sunday.  

At this point I wouldn't mind if the stadium janitor got to pick the GM if it meant Bruce was gone.

[Burgold]

Daydreaming a bit, but I could totally get behind a front office of Urban Meyer as GM. Kyle Smith as head scout. Schaffer as the cap/contract specialist. Alex Smith as regional scout or guy being groomed to be a front office exec. That sounds pretty good to me.

[bakedtater1]

17 minutes ago, Theismann07 said:

Oh, man....he was bad with the names on Sunday. He even said that Sammy Baugh was the only one to have his jersey retired by the Eagles....what????🤪

Yaaahhhh that was the other one lol hahaha thanks.

30 minutes ago, Burgold said:

Is Urban Meyer interested in coming here not as coach, but as GM? Color me curious. He certainly has developed a great eye for talent and has a ton of experience in recruiting/wooing players which might be translatable to free agency.

 

Curious.

Wasnt the broadcasters saying something like Meyer has family and ties in the area?

[Mr. Sinister]

9 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

At this point I wouldn't mind if the stadium janitor got to pick the GM if it meant Bruce was gone.

 

I'm frankly done with this mindset, cuz I had it when Vinny got axed, and explained away a ton of stuff that was immediately wrong with the Shanahan/Allen regime (to now) until it was painfully apparent.

 

Cant have a dude with no league experience whatsoever walking into the building and calling shots like that. It would just be another big splash no substance, red meat dead in the water hire, where we all expect him to magically "Get it," at not only an executive level, but u understand NFL coaching, and the owner-exec-player dynamic and how to work within it, being empowered by the worst owner in the NFL.

 

What's going to work is an older, experienced exec who has made inroads in the game and knows how to handle a dude like Dan, or a young guy who's cut his teeth in the game already, eager to prove he belongs, and can communicate and build relationships.

 

I'm sorry, but Urban Meyer is a big fat no from me

[Skinsinparadise]

The fact that Smith and Snyder were together, long after Urban Meyer was seen sitting next to Smith, was interesting. Especially if you consider that Smith and Snyder have steadily built their relationship during his time here and especially during this season. 

 

The fact that Bruce Allen was either not invited or chose not to stay with Snyder and Smith is the much bigger story. 

As Carpenter wrote: “Bruce not being [in the post game suite] is a big thing,” one person who knows Snyder’s and Allen’s habits said, later adding it’s a sign that “Bruce is in exile.”

 

Allen was always by Snyder's side and in his suite long after games. I used to see it all the time. I can't tell you I know exactly how the rich and famous act and behave these days, but it is mildly surprising to me that Allen seems to be on the outside looking in while Smith grows enormously in the influence department. 

It must be a good sign for those that are in the #FireBruceAllen or #RetireBruceAllen camp. Right?

 

Carpenter pointed out: "Multiple people with knowledge of the situation say Snyder has not made a decision on Allen’s future with the team. The owner is planning a full evaluation of the organization, and while Snyder often has such reviews, one person familiar with Snyder’s plans said this one will focus more on the top than in past . Like others interviewed for this story, the person spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations."

 

There's every indication a divorce is coming and we've hinted and speculated as much in this space several times. 

If Snyder has any sense of just how bad his business is, there's no reason to speculate or wait. The only question is - is he waiting to turn out the lights on Bruce until he has someone (anyone) in the fold?

 

Chris Russell is the Publisher of Maven & Sports Illustrated's Washington Redskins channel. He can be heard on 106.7 The FAN in the Washington D.C. area and world-wide on Radio.com. Chris also hosts the "Locked on Redskins" Podcast and can be read via subscription to Warpath Magazine. You can e-mail Chris at russellmania09@Gmail.com or follow him on Twitter at @Russellmania621.

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• https://www.si.com/nfl/redskins/gm-report/report-allens-future-remains-uncertain

 

[RWJ]

2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

There's every indication a divorce is coming and we've hinted and speculated as much in this space several times. 

If Snyder has any sense of just how bad his business is, there's no reason to speculate or wait. The only question is - is he waiting to turn out the lights on Bruce until he has someone (anyone) in the fold?

 

Chris Russell is the Publisher of Maven & Sports Illustrated's Washington Redskins channel. He can be heard on 106.7 The FAN in the Washington D.C. area and world-wide on Radio.com. Chris also hosts the "Locked on Redskins" Podcast and can be read via subscription to Warpath Magazine. You can e-mail Chris at russellmania09@Gmail.com or follow him on Twitter at @Russellmania621.

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• https://www.si.com/nfl/redskins/gm-report/report-allens-future-remains-uncertain

 

I certainly hope so.

[Skinsinparadise]

6 minutes ago, RWJ said:

I certainly hope so.

 

Russell has had his issues years back as for getting things wrong, Haz, Cowher, etc but he's been mostly spot on about the FO.  He thinks its going down and Bruce will be gone.  As do most who cover the team but they all caution that Dan might change his mind.  

[portis26a]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

 

I'm frankly done with this mindset, cuz I had it when Vinny got axed, and explained away a ton of stuff that was immediately wrong with the Shanahan/Allen regime (to now) until it was painfully apparent.

 

Cant have a dude with no league experience whatsoever walking into the building and calling shots like that. It would just be another big splash no substance, red meat dead in the water hire, where we all expect him to magically "Get it," at not only an executive level, but u understand NFL coaching, and the owner-exec-player dynamic and how to work within it, being empowered by the worst owner in the NFL.

 

What's going to work is an older, experienced exec who has made inroads in the game and knows how to handle a dude like Dan, or a young guy who's cut his teeth in the game already, eager to prove he belongs, and can communicate and build relationships.

 

I'm sorry, but Urban Meyer is a big fat no from me

 

What would make YOU happy.

[bakedtater1]

I     Embrace     Change 

[ntotoro]

1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Russell has had his issues years back as for getting things wrong, Haz, Cowher, etc but he's been mostly spot on about the FO.  He thinks its going down and Bruce will be gone.  As do most who cover the team but they all caution that Dan might change his mind.  

 

I do think it was rather oddball that George Allen was easily visible in Danny's owner's box, but no sign of Brucie.

[Mr. Sinister]

Just now, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Russell has had his issues years back as for getting things wrong, Haz, Cowher, etc but he's been mostly spot on about the FO.  He thinks its going down and Bruce will be gone.  As do most who cover the team but they all caution that Dan might change his mind.  

 

Well anyone close to him that remains had better tell him that this decision will define what's left of this smoldering ruin of a franchise. Not saying things will improve if he's gone, but if Bruce survives to see another Harvest Fest, and say, the Ravens go on to win another Super Bowl, it's a wrap (we're on life support as it is).

[Mr. Sinister]

8 minutes ago, portis26a said:

 

What would make YOU happy.

 

A hug from you. Bring it in...

[KDawg]

1 hour ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

i don't like this idea at all.  A coach's mentality is to do whatever it takes to win this Sunday, so they do not always have what's best for the team long term in mind.  And if he is the one in charge that's when a team makes short sighted trades designed to win this Sunday.  

If you’ve hired a dud. Absolutely agree. But if you hire a level headed guy, they see the forest through the trees. A bad example of this, and in favor of your point, is likely Bill O’Brien.

 

a good example of this is Bill Belichick. 
 

As with all things, it depends on who you hire. Any of us could reasonably be against having a GM hire a coach to fit his vision due to our current situation. 
 

Either way, I think the key is that you have to have a guy in charge and a guy fulfilling his vision. In my opinion it’s less relevant of the title and much more important who you hire for the titles.

[Skinsinparadise]

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

Is Urban Meyer interested in coming here not as coach, but as GM? Color me curious. He certainly has developed a great eye for talent and has a ton of experience in recruiting/wooing players which might be translatable to free agency.

 

Curious.

 

I'd like Meyer as HC not GM.   I'd rather have a traditional GM.  Do it like most other teams do.  Hire a dude that's known as a rock star scout with some personnel experience and give them the reigns.  If that dude is Kyle Smith that's fine.

 

It's almost like Dan is determined to prove to the world that he doesn't care about hiring GM's with killer reputations for being actually good at personnel.   He wants it to be a position that's more about fun.  A fun dude for him to hang out with.  A fun name that maybe has some nostalgia ring to it, or whatever.

 

Shanny was chased out of Denver because of his GM work not coaching work.  Yet he was hired here to run personnel.   Bruce was considered a money guy previously but heck why not put him in charge of personnel?  

Dan fired John Schneider to bring back Vinny Cerrato albeit Schneider fit the exact profile most say it takes to run a team. You want IMO someone who is hungry, ready to make their mark and is known to be a scouting savant. 

 

My favorite analogy to Dan is he's a dude trying to run a successful restaurant but wants to try to do it every which way except hire the best guy he can get to shop for the groceries.    He'd rather experiment or make it a fun guy, or wing it as for shopping for the groceries.  Yet he's mystified why he can't win?  Well, Dan how about for once do it the traditional way?  I don't think it's some shock that the last PR boost Dan got was when he hired Scot.  

 

Fans were amazed that Dan actually bothered for once to hire someone who was well regarded as for their actual scouting ability.   It wasn't making a coach a GM.  It wasn't about nostalgia.  It wasn't about hiring and keeping a close friend. 

 

 It's been almost all downhill since Scot left PR wise.  And the reason for it is obvious because when he left it went to same old same old. 

Why is Dallas almost always better than we are in spite of their dysfunction?  IMO its Will McClay.  He's a stud at what he does.  Why does hiring people with that profile seem to not drive Dan?   

 

On the Bruce Allen anniversary show today, they ran a segment where Danny-Grant took calls from listeners where they asked them to call to ask on questions they had no expertise on.  They made it all into a joke.  But the point is well made.  If I want electrical work done on my house, I am hiring an electrician.  I try to hire the best electrician.  This basic fact has eluded Dan forever.   He seems to think that doing the electrical work is a joke.  You can hire a plumber, hey it's close enough to the electrical field or your buddy from college or whatever.   

 

I know I am stating the obvious but I am just amazed by all these articles about how Dan is confused about how to build a winner.  Is he really that stupid?  I think any fan that has followed this team can cite some of the key issues for why they lose without breaking a sweat.    To say its 101 stuff would be an understatement. 

 

We talked about Ballard years back.  We talked about the weaknesses of this FO structure years back, too.  We aren't rocket scientists.  It's really not that hard, Dan. 

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/28/general-manager-candidates-chris-ballard-colts-model

Everybody’s Looking for the Next Chris Ballard: This Year’s List of Future GMs

The Colts hit a grand slam when they hired their general manager, a rising star with a vision about how to build a team, and a plan for how to achieve it. Here’s the blueprint for how to hire a GM—and 13 top candidates for openings.

 

The biggest question Colts chief operating officer Pete Ward had about Chris Ballard two years ago had nothing to do with his ability to manage people or pick players or put a team together. It was simpler than that: Will he even talk to us?

Former Indianapolis coach Tony Dungy told Ward at the outset of his GM search, “You need to talk to this guy out of Kansas City. He’s really impressive, and he’s going to be a GM, it’s inevitable.” Dungy wasn’t the only one to believe that about Ballard, but all the big expectations came with a caveat. Ballard had said no to team after team that tried to pry him away from the Chiefs.

“Chris was coveted,” Ward says now.

So it’d be silly for the Colts to act now like they tripped into a gold mine, or as if they had a cheat code to finding a team builder. They thought highly of Ballard, just as lots of others thought highly of Ballard. Circumstances gave the Colts an edge with him: the location (mid-sized Midwestern city), the quarterback (Andrew Luck) and owner Jim Irsay’s approach (loyal, dedicated to the football side). And that was really it.

That said, even the Colts probably didn’t foresee what Ballard has achieved in Indy.

 

...What To Look For

It didn’t take long into the interview for Ballard’s attention to detail and depth of knowledge of the league to jump out at Ward and Irsay. Nor was it difficult to see the level to which he developed a plan. It was exactly what the Colts were looking for.

“To begin with, he knew our roster,” Ward says. “It was almost like he worked here. He knew the players as well as he would have if he’d worked here. He was able to review our roster with us right then and there. He knew coaches around the league, he was able to tell us his ideal candidates, because there were going to be some staff changes. And of course he’d have to collaborate, because Chuck Pagano was at the time our head coach, and we’re talking about assistant coaches now.

“And he was able to tell us the plan, how he wanted build our team.”

What He Had To Know

Ballard spent 12 years in the scouting department with the Bears before joining the Chiefs as director of player personnel in 2013. Two years later he was promoted to director of football operations in K.C., before the Colts hired him as GM in January 2017. What scouts will tell you is that when they become GMs, there’s shock from the increased volume of responsibility that crosses their desk—ranging from getting the grass cut to negotiating a street free agent’s signing bonus within a couple hours. Ballard, because he’d waited, and watched John Dorsey in K.C., had a better idea of what went into the GM job than most candidates.

That’s important, because a good grasp of the myriad responsibilities can allow a new GM to hit the ground running.

[JSSkinz]

When I listened to the postgame pod that Finlay and the boys do they said they didn't see Dan and Bruce together at all during the game and that's very unusual from the norm.

 

Now we have what SIP posted as more confirmation that Dan is starting to separate himself from Bruce, all good stuff.

[Skinsinparadise]

You got me what moves Dan.  I've heard a reporter say that from they hear Dan doesn't even do emails and isn't a tech guy at all.  Maybe he doesn't know how to do searches on the net?  But if you dig a little it's not hard to find names of people that are respected for their personnel prowess. 

 

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836745-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-top-nfl-gm-candidates-2020-big-board-and-more

Ed Dodds, Colts

If you ask 10 front-office people around the league who the best scout in the NFL is, chances are you're going to hear Ed Dodds' name the most. The current assistant general manager with the Indianapolis Colts, no one in the league is more widely acknowledged as the top scout, which is why Ballard poached Dodds from Seattle and gave him a right-hand seat to his throne in Indianapolis.

Why isn't Dodds a household name? As I've been told, he doesn't particularly like the attention that comes with being a decision-maker and might not even have the desire to be a general manager. That would be great news for the Colts, but Dodds should start getting calls soon to interview for top jobs.

          

Mike Borgonzi, Kansas City Chiefs

First it was Chris Ballard as the top scout to leave Kansas City for a general manager job, and then Brett Veach got an in-house promotion. Up next will be Mike Borgonzi, the team's director of football operations, to take interviews for a GM job.

Borgonzi, like Ballard before him, is known as a very thorough evaluator, but he's also praised for the type of staff he'll build. Ballard went to Indianapolis and hired Dodds, but he also added Rex Hogan (New York Jets) and did a great job keeping key scouts already with the Colts instead of cleaning house. Borgonzi is expected to be that kind of thinker who will put the good of the team over his ego.

 

http://insidethepylon.com/nfl/front-office/2018/12/10/2019-nfl-general-manager-candidate-study/

 

I do believe these types of lists are becoming predictive. As Breer noted in 2016, “As some evaluators explain it to me, the influx of search firms and veteran consultants has spawned a network connecting candidates to advocates and narrowing the process—making it easier for teams, and hard for everyone else.” So as we study candidate lists from insiders like Breer, Adam Schefter, Ian Rapoport, Mike Garofolo, Peter Schrager, Tom Pelissero, Conor Orr, Adam Caplan, among others and then study the candidates who are interviewing, those who decline interviews, and those who do not get permission to interview, we can really see the field of candidates take shape.

 

There were two GM openings after the 2017 season and both went to candidates included in the 2018 study, with Brian Gaine and Brian Gutekunst being hired in Houston and Green Bay respectively. In addition, Eric DeCosta will take over in Baltimore.

After the 2016 season, there were 3 GM openings that were not an internal promotion and two of the three were filed with candidates from the 2017 study. Chris Ballard earned his opportunity with Indianapolis and Brandon Beane earned his in Buffalo.

 

Two GM openings after the 2015 season were not internal promotions and both went to those on the 2016 study with Jon Robinson being selected in Tennessee and Bob Quinn in Detroit.

What have I learned since we published last year’s list:

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• Timing matters. Okay, I knew this before, but it really stands out this year. Owners are drawn to executives from a successful team and as such, the team Win/Loss record and the recent draft results get attached to candidates as it is almost impossible to identify their individual contributions to the team building process. As such, candidates like Joe Douglas of the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles, may see a different market after the Eagles 2018 campaign than their 2017 one. The negative change in the Eagles Win/Loss record may have absolutely nothing to do with Douglas, but the stock of candidates is directly impacted by it. This can also work in a candidates favor. Last spring, the Chicago papers had GM Ryan Pace on the hot seat. Now, after an incredibly productive 2018 campaign, Pace looks locked in and his Director of Player Personnel, Josh Lucas, has been added to Schrager’s ‘One’s to watch’.
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...So, without further ado, I present a list of General Manager candidates, clustered by background, and ordered alphabetically. There are links to their bios and quick one-liners on them below:

[slinky]

44 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

Dan is starting to separate himself from Bruce

 

would be nice if Dan could separate himself from himself. 

[Skinsinparadise]

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I guess it's semantics.  I just don't believe if you have given yourself the title of "President and General Manager" you "meddle."  At that point, you ARE the decision maker. That's not meddling.  

 

 

 

I've read a lot about McClay over the years.  The picture painted is he's their Kyle Smith with both pro and college personnel.   So he has the Scot McCloughan role.  And Jerry's son supposedly has gotten Jerry to back off and trust McClay.  For example, supposedly Jerry didn't want Frederick or Martin in the draft and had other players in mind but he let it go.

 

It's far from a perfect situation but Jerry's meddlesome ways is supposedly more with coaching, contracts than personnel these days.   If you research McClay he's like a God to Cowboy fans.

 

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

 

I actually think Dan COULD be likable. And more accessible.  But he has such mistrust for the media, it is not going to happen. 

 

 

Agree, I've made the same point before.  According to some this has been Bruce's influence as to feeding into the media is evil and being a recluse is fine.  Dan was more accessible with Vinny.

 

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

 

He also did an interview, I think with Vinny and whoever was running college scouting at the time leading up to either the 2008 or 2009 draft. 

 

Under Vinny he did pressers from what I recall before every draft at least for a spell.

 

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

I loath Bruce.  But some of the questions he got in the press conference he conducted after Jay was fired were just not helpful.  "Are you willing to apologize to the fans right now for the ..." I mean, come on.  He's not going to do that and the question was honestly off-putting.  It was media grandstanding.  Dan sees this, probably looks at a picture of his yacht, and says, "yeah, there's no reason for me to do that."  And goes on with his life.  

 

 

Bruce was awful though in that press conference IMO.   The kicker for me was when he was asked about accountability for the last 10 years he basically threw that back on Doug-Kyle.  That's his go to answer, I am not to blame, I'll tell you who to blame.  He does it in a Machiavellian way where it looks like he's complementing said people but what he's doing is saying hey i know you guys don't like me and the fans blame me but they are blaming the wrong guy.

 

Laconfora said it well today which is Bruce's press conferences should be shown to media students as a perfect clinic about what not to do.  I am in the business where there are plenty of press conferences and I've seen plenty of them.  Bruce is atrocious in those settings.  He's a mixture of showing almost no accountability, he's patronizing to fans (I think unintentionally on that front, I am guessing he thinks we are all stupid), and he has his share of malapropisms and dumb statements as the icing on the cake. 

 

He's a walking soundbite but that's in the worst way in that he makes the perfect soundbites that serve as fodder to make the organization look incompetent and out of touch.    Vinny wasn't a smooth speaker.  But the dude spoke a lot more than Bruce and still didn't make the same number of dumb comments. 

 

I am not a big Louis Reddick guy.  But man would he improve these press conferences.  Reddick is much quicker on his feet and can read an audience miles better than Bruce.

 

9 hours ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

And THAT, almost more than anything else, is why I think Bruce still has a job.  Dan doesn't have any inclination to talk to the media ever again.  And Bruce does that for Dan, and Dan needs to find somebody to do it for him if he replaces Bruce.  

 

  Agree.  And it's beyond the media.  Supposedly Dan is borderline reclusive with his fellow owners, too.  Bruce is his spokesman there and heck often goes to owner meetings to represent Dan (without Dan being present. 

[DazedSkinsfan]

2 hours ago, bakedtater1 said:

 

@Skinsinparadise your last two posts is the exact reason I'm not on board with the Myer for GM idea. There's so many talented candidates out there that are way more qualified than Urban. If that's the route we go then its back to the same ole Dan Snyder looking for a splash hire. I think we have suffered with Bruce for so long that most skins fans believe that anyone is better than Bruce and in reality that's not true.  Y'all remember 10 years ago we thought Vinny got us to rock bottom? Bruce Allen said hold my beer lol.......

 

As a lifelong fan of this team,  I am absolutely sick and tired of hearing the phrase "splash hire" and Urban Myer is a splash hire no matter if its HC or GM.  Theres plenty of evidence that the pressure cooker of coaching at the big schools caused his health issues. He supposedly left Florida because of health concerns.  How can he handle the NFL in any kind of capacity if the stress of college drove him away from not one but two programs.  

[HigSkin]

I, yi, yi it's going to be a crazy 2 weeks...

 

 

[Skinsinparadise]

27 minutes ago, DazedSkinsfan said:

@Skinsinparadise your last two posts is the exact reason I'm not on board with the Myer for GM idea. There's so many talented candidates out there that are way more qualified than Urban. If that's the route we go then its back to the same ole Dan Snyder looking for a splash hire. I think we have suffered with Bruce for so long that most skins fans believe that anyone is better than Bruce and in reality that's not true.  Y'all remember 10 years ago we thought Vinny got us to rock bottom? Bruce Allen said hold my beer lol.......

 

As a lifelong fan of this team,  I am absolutely sick and tired of hearing the phrase "splash hire" and Urban Myer is a splash hire no matter if its HC or GM.  Theres plenty of evidence that the pressure cooker of coaching at the big schools caused his health issues. He supposedly left Florida because of health concerns.  How can he handle the NFL in any kind of capacity if the stress of college drove him away from not one but two programs.  

 

I mostly agree.  I don't mind a splash hire though at HC.  But Dan's version of splash hire at GM seems mostly warped because the splash doesn't center on the actual competence for the job at hand -- instead its about friendship or nostalgia or a HC.    How about a real splash hire at GM from the context of a dude who is considered the best scout in the business like Ed Dodds or someone like that?  Is it that hard to do?  Try it once at least. 

 

Dan seems to think it doesn't matter if he has the best personnel evaluators in the building evaluating personnel.   And supposedly he is befuddled why it never works out for him?  It's nuts.  It would be like my kids saying they are getting bad grades but can't quite get over the hump and have tried everything to fix it.  And I go well how about actually studying hard and they tell me well we aren't quite sure about that so what other advice do you have for me aside from that studying thing?  

[Theismann07]

3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I mostly agree.  I don't mind a splash hire though at HC.  But Dan's version of splash hire at GM seems mostly warped because the splash doesn't center on the actual competence for the job at hand -- instead its about friendship or nostalgia or a HC.    How about a real splash hire at GM from the context of a dude who is considered the best scout in the business like Ed Dodds or someone like that?  Is it that hard to do?  Try it once at least. 

 

Dan seems to think it doesn't matter if he has the best personnel evaluators in the building evaluating personnel.   And supposedly he is befuddled why it never works out for him?  It's nuts.  It would be like my kids saying they are getting bad grades but can't quite get over the hump and have tried everything to fix it.  And I go well how about actually studying hard and they tell me well we aren't quite sure about that, what other advice do you have for me?  

Dan personifies the definition of insanity....doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It’s been helluva case study for the past 20 years. Just amazing.

[Skinsinparadise]

6 minutes ago, Theismann07 said:

Dan personifies the definition of insanity....doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. It’s been helluva case study for the past 20 years. Just amazing.

 

Sheehan likes to say the Redskins would be a perfect study for some business school students about how an owner-manager can wreck a brand -- turn off and ultimately lose a loyal customer base.