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The Bruce Allen/GM Thread

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22 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

I would be shocked at this point because Of the obvious financial implications. 

 

However if San believes He can get the coach he wants and keep Bruce, there’s a chance.

 

Yep and I'd add that Bruce who seems to be able to play Dan like a fiddle is likely working furiously to prove the point to Dan that he can get his man at HC and keep his buddy at the same time.   Naturally the best candidate that Bruce would sell is whomever is willing to work with him.

 

If so Dan would be missing a major plot line which is that fans want Bruce gone.  Based on what some who covered the team said last year, Bruce convinced Dan that next season (2019) all will be fine and the fans don't really have a beef with him that's permanent and it's all about the losing.  

 

If so, Bruce has to throw one more Hail Mary at Dan and say he built a great roster but Jay messed it up -- now we just need to get the right coach and 2020 will be the year.  And Dan don't let go of me now when I am this close to getting you a spanking new stadium.

 

I'd still bet against it going down that way but over the years my opinion of Dan has continued to descend to new lows.  I don't think Bruce is good at his job to say the least but I think he's miles smarter than Dan and can outwit him with ease.  So that gives Bruce a chance at survival.  

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7 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yeah it would be beyond pathetic.  If that happens, Dan should just come clean and say look he doesn't really want to win -- he really wants a BFF more than anything.  Those putt putt games fulfill him way more than anything else in life. 

This calls for a “The culture is actually damn good” joke

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5 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Oh God. TAKE ME NOW LORD!!!

Wait..isnt that what life is all about?

 

Life,taxes,Redskins football,death.

...am I missing something here?

 

 

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1 hour ago, bakedtater1 said:

Wait..isnt that what life is all about?

 

Life,taxes,Redskins football,death.

...am I missing something here?

 

 

Isn't Redskins football and death pretty much the same thing? 😂😂😂

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8 hours ago, DazedSkinsfan said:

Isn't Redskins football and death pretty much the same thing? 😂😂😂

Well Redskins football and taxes as well: Pain in the ass.

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It's clear now that the best case scenario we'll get is Bruce "retiring" at the end of the season, preserving his "dignity." If that's the case, there won't be nearly as much cause for celebration, because it will be clear that Ebeneezer Snyder has learned absolutely nothing. Anyone with an ounce of business/organizational acumen would've fired this stooge a long time ago and been ashamed of ever hiring him and sticking by him for so long. But if Bruce does the "retiring" dance, it'll be obvious that Snyder is allowing it begrudgingly, having learned absolutely nothing over the last 10 years. I really wanted to be able to root for a win this week. Now, back to hoping for humiliation. Hope our team has some good silent snap counts ready for today ... at "home."

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21 hours ago, Makaveli said:

 

If he is still employed by the team after this season, then Snyder deserves everything that is happening. The empty stadium, the losing. I have zero sympathy for him and this organization.

 

 

 

You could have written this post a year ago, 2 or 3 actually.  

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These are all reasons I haven’t participated in, or thought about, who the new HC will be. If Allen is here it literally doesn’t matter. Sure, there are guys who would do better with this structure than others, but ultimately the team will fade. May have a good season, maybe two. But the FO will make a poor move completely against the coach and other FO people, put a bitter taste in everyone’s mouths and the results will plummet.

 

And, as I’ve said many times, I don’t believe Allen will be removed. And as long as he has Snyder’s phone number and cell service, he’s going to be advising Snyder. 
 

The Skins only hope is Snyder finding a football guy that he trusts and can golf and drink vodka with his pinky in the air with and he disregards Allen.

 

So, while many are excited about all these coaches, any hire with the current regime will result in indifference from me. Either depressed indifference or a slight grin indifference.

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9 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

You could have written this post a year ago, 2 or 3 actually.  

And you will be able to write the same post in 2 to 3 years.

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11 minutes ago, KDawg said:

 But the FO will make a poor move completely against the coach and other FO people, put a bitter taste in everyone’s mouths and the results will plummet.

 

 

 

 

Which has happened since Dan bought the team whether Bruce was hanging around or not.

 

Dan not only has to find a new guy to replace Bruce but this new guy must also possess the magical ability to dispel Dan's moronic tendencies.

 

Will he be found?

 

I'm not exactly getting my hopes up because I do know that Dan isn't looking for this type of person. He's scanning the globe for another homeboy yesman.

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10 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said:

 

Which has happened since Dan bought the team whether Bruce was hanging around or not.

 

Dan not only has to find a new guy to replace Bruce but this new guy must also possess the magical ability to dispel Dan's moronic tendencies.

 

Will he be found?

 

I'm not exactly getting my hopes up because I do know that Dan isn't looking for this type of person. He's scanning the globe for another homeboy yesman.

This is what some fans do not want to acknowledge. Organizations don't suck from the middle rung down, they suck from the top down.  Snyder has been a meddling moron since Day 1.  Now you know what they say about insanity......I am not sure these two couldn't benefit from an AA meeting at this point.  For some reason I see the two of them conjuring up half of their idiotic decisions over Coors Light and Crown Royal. 

 

So this is one main reason I suspect Bruce is probably not going anywhere.  He would have already been gone.  The season is another bust.  

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At best he will be gone like Vinny was under Schottenheimer. Vinny was still in Dan's office every day plotting with Doofus Dan about how to best take power back from the competent coach Dan mistakenly hired.

That didn't take long

 

Finishing 8-3 wasn't quite good enough then.

 

Bruce going 3-13 for the second time, on the other hand

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1 hour ago, Darrell Green Fan said:

 

You could have written this post a year ago, 2 or 3 actually.  

The difference is this year, and even more so next year, fans don't care anymore and are stopping going to games. He's killing fans passion and making them apathetic.

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If Bruce is gone I doubt he's making a comeback a year later like Vinny.  He'd be pushing his mid 60s.  Vinny was young in comparison at the time.   Vinny wasn't as infamous when he was brought back as he ended up being by the end of his tenure.  Bruce to me is way more toxic.

 

While I agree Dan likes a buddy with yes man qualities to them and will stroke his ego.   What I wonder about (and I don't have a strong opinion on it one way or another) is can he find a capable GM with those same qualities.  Gibbs who is a master at stroking egos and understands people clearly has been the only guy who could massage Dan.  And Gibbs is no incompetent.  

 

I don't secretly believe Bruce is killer good at his job, ditto Vinny but were just diluted by Dan.  And I am not saying people are saying otherwise.  My point is Bruce and Vinny were the perfect storms of being BOTH incompetent people and cozy with Dan for all the wrong reasons.  Is it possible that Dan can find a buddy who is also competent.  I think there is a fighting chance.  I don't believe that because of having faith in Dan but just pure random luck.

 

At least one here challenged the idea that Gibbs and Dan were close because Gibbs isn't a drinker.  But I think we'd be taking the Dan-Bruce drinking sessions too seriously if we are going that far.  Yeah I do think Dan and Bruce have a deep bromance because they are somewhat two of a kind with the exception of Bruce being an extroverted guy.  Gibbs and Dan both have commented that they were close during Gibbs tenure.  And oddly Gibbs might be Dan's biggest cheerleader.  Through this year, he still will sing Dan's praises left and right.   I cringe when he does it but I can't ignore that it's a reality. 

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14 hours ago, DazedSkinsfan said:

Isn't Redskins football and death pretty much the same thing? 😂😂😂

Redskins football kind of makes you wish for the sweet embrace of death

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2 hours ago, SkinsFTW said:

Bruce going 3-13 for the second time, on the other hand

San doesn’t associate the Shanahan years or debacle with Adam, he associates it with Shanahan.

 

In Dan’s mind, Bruce has had complete control for 6 years, since 2014 when he hired Jay and the incompetent TB mafia. 

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...Hobbies. Dolan is the frontman and guitarist for the blues-inspired rock band JD & The Straight Shot. Snyder is the owner of a $180 million superyacht that includes an Imax theater, a basketball court and a helipad; it can accommodate several hundred passengers, coincidentally about the same number of people attending R*dsk*ns home games this season.

Temperament. They both have a bad temperament.

Conclusion: Who Is Worse? With cooperation from the Johns Hopkins Advanced Physics Laboratory and ESPN Stats & Info, we created a complex analytical model to deconstruct the two owners. And the results? Remarkably, the numbers indicate that, if Dolan and Snyder swapped franchises over the last two decades, the Knicks and the R*dsk*ns would still have the exact same records over that span.

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