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Russell elaborated some more. Said there were times where Bruce was on the ropes in recent times. But from what he has heard the 6-3 start saved his job. He convinced Dan that they were just befallen by bad luck, prosperity is right on the brink, dont break up the band now.

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6 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Russell elaborated some more. Said there were times where Bruce was on the ropes in recent times. But from what he has heard the 6-3 start saved his job. He convinced Dan that they were just befallen by bad luck, prosperity is right on the brink, dont break up the band now.

If that is true that the 6-3 saved his job,well it wont be long into 2019 before he is fired..

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I refuse to watch this team anymore until that toolbag is gone. Sunday will be the first game I voluntarily miss in more than 10 years.

 

I can't take this nonsense anymore.  Dan Snyder clearly doesn't care about us so why should we give a damn about his sorry football team?

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8 minutes ago, bh32 said:

If that is true that the 6-3 saved his job,well it wont be long into 2019 before he is fired..

Feel that way too at the moment unless Bruce does a 180 as to altering his business as usual approach to pro personnel.

 

Too many holes this time. Qb is a mess.  I think the team takes a dive next season unless they really radically change their typical off season approach.

 

And this isn't me being negative just to be negative, I've been relatively optimistic about their rosters in recent years.

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9 minutes ago, max21 said:

Is this old news regarding the ending of his Wikipedia bio? It’s pretty funny.

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I just love Wikipedia, now I am going to have to make a contribution......

 

#firebruceallen

 

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8 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Russell elaborated some more. Said there were times where Bruce was on the ropes in recent times. But from what he has heard the 6-3 start saved his job. He convinced Dan that they were just befallen by bad luck, prosperity is right on the brink, dont break up the band now.

 

Bad luck.

 

Trading for McNabb only to go back to the same source where you failed the first time and trade for Alex Smith while signing them both to extensions. Bad luck

 

Ignoring the rest of ownership and summarily getting fined 36 mil in cap space. Bad luck.

 

Trading the farm and getting a supremely talented QB with a terrible attitude; then allowing your owner and head coach run him into the ground. Bad luck.

 

Getting a serviceable QB in the same draft and escorting him out of town through sheer ignorance. Bad luck.

 

4 major attempts to solve the QB position with multiple draft picks and a ton of cash involved only to be behind square one and in cap Hell. Bad luck.

 

Hiring a drunk to manage your draft and see him keep drinking and then scape-goating him so you can fire him. Bad luck.

 

Consistently signing and drafting players cheap because most of them are injury prone/have an injury history and having 2 straight years of being the most injured team in the NFL. Bad luck.

 

Winning off the field. Bad luck.

 

”Kurt” Cousins. Bad luck.

 

Harvest Fest and Homecoming. Bad luck.

 

Richmond. Bad luck.

 

Having your head coach call out players and being candid about when they whine about practice while cutting a player for doing the same thing. Bad luck.

 

Making a Redskins legend be your mouth piece and watch him fumble the ball multiple times in interviews. Bad luck.

 

Hiring a highly reputable PR firm and then an NFL PR guru and clashing with both just to send them away. Bad luck.

 

Poor Dan and Bruce. Just a ton of bad luck.

 

I would’ve dissected more, but I came up with this many off the top of my head. I figured this was sufficient.

 

 

 

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@Birdlives literally nailed it.

 

 

And sadly it took little effort I'd imagine.  The amount of cluster**** fuel in recent years is astounding. 

 

We are a band of bumbling idiots and that won't change anytime in the near future, that's the only certainty. 

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I don't think Birdlives claims work all that well as an indictment of Allen, unfortunately.  At least for me

 

Smith doesn't compare to McNabb, even if he wasn't playing great the team was winning under him.

 

The cap epnalty?  I don't think it's appropriate for the league to violate the law like they did, so I'd have been more disappointed in him not acting.  Frankly I wish Snyder had gone full Al Davis and sued the league

 

RG3- don't agree he had a terrible attitude, don't believe he was run into the ground.  He suffered no severe injury his second year he just couldn't play effectively. 

 

The stuff about GMSM and his drinking, so he's wrong to hire him, then wrong to fire him?  How convenient for you and your argument.  And the injury prone players was a strategy devised by Scot and fans were fine with it at first

 

And the Skins haven't won off the field during Bruce Allen's tenure.

 

It's been the results of his actions not the mere attempts that mean he should be fired.

 

 

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Is there any way to promote Allen, or grant him additional responsibilities? 

 

I feel like that is the direction we are heading. Maybe he will be our next coach.   That's probably what it will take to hit rock bottom. We have a long ways to go, unfortunately.

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2 hours ago, max21 said:

Is this old news regarding the ending of his Wikipedia bio? It’s pretty funny.

 

It's still up.  Please, nobody fix it.

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5 minutes ago, RandyHolt said:

Is there any way to promote Allen, or grant him additional responsibilities? 

 

I feel like that is the direction we are heading. Maybe he will be our next coach.   That's probably what it will take to hit rock bottom. We have a long ways to go, unfortunately.

 

Well, he certainly knows how to bring that motivation. 🤨

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Tsailand said:

 

It's still up.  Please, nobody fix it.

 

Fix it?

 

Somebody needs to add more to it.

 

Also, I might have to stop calling Dan and Bruce names. It seems that every time I do the goal becomes one-upping the latest. I can no longer find words to describe the current level of idiocy.

 

Even this guy below (who I've obviously overestimated Dan by comparing the 2) knew when he was about to get hilariously destroyed:

 

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7 hours ago, Birdlives said:

 

Bad luck.

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There's I don't know many millions Redskins' fans throughout the whole world.

 

And the one that bought them is the dumbest and stupidest one...

 

Now... That is bad luck!

 

More than half this fanbase lurking around would have done a better job than Dan running this team if they were the owner.

 

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The well-respected Lafemina was on the job for just eight months before he was offed the day after Christmas, while Bruce Allen, the team president, still marches on as the grinning, glad-handing false front for the owner’s impatience and back-hall chaos.

 

...The backstab, the gaslight and the broken promise are the hallmarks of this club. Anyone who won’t peddle the chronic lie that they are just one or two good players away from a Super Bowl gets the hatchet. Time and again, passion players get pushed out the door in favor of pay-checkers, and all the wrong, insipid front office people are rewarded, and the right ones are dismissed or devalued.

 

...A team that already had a reputation for long-term toxic malaise now finds itself in perhaps the most dangerous state of the past two lousy decades: only career desperados will work for it. Anyone with a real future, anyone who is not a total wreck-reclamation project, has zero incentive to sign with these jokers, unless it’s for a cap-destroying amount of money.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/welcome-to-the-redskins-where-honesty-is-not-in-the-employee-handbook/2018/12/26/20631ff0-096e-11e9-88e3-989a3e456820_story.html?utm_term=.91ed5fb65a2e

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When I read this article while posting it, I thought it was spot on.

 

At some point you have to wonder what they are thinking upstairs, because well... It's a complete mess... It does not look good in any way. How can they be this dumb?

 

And btw @Skinsinparadise I think I missed your story about meeting Brian LaFemina... Or you didn't posted yet :P

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22 minutes ago, Wildbunny said:

When I read this article while posting it, I thought it was spot on.

 

At some point you have to wonder what they are thinking upstairs, because well... It's a complete mess... It does not look good in any way. How can they be this dumb?

 

And btw @Skinsinparadise I think I missed your story about meeting Brian LaFemina... Or you didn't posted yet :P

 

Sure, without getting into how it happened.  I'll just say this is if you let the team directly know you are upset, he was interested in learning why.   

 

So I ended up talking to him for about 20 minutes.  In short, he was a really cool guy.  That's one thing Chad Dukes was talking about on the air yesterday which is if you have private conversions with him, great guy who cares about the image of the team.    Nothing really juicy, main points I got out of it was this:

 

A.  He gets that fans are upset about ownership and how he runs things.   

B.  He was very careful not to repeat shots he heard from others but it slipped in a way that it was clear he's heard from many others that they don't like it when Dan interferes with the team

C.  He thinks Dan's rep might change when they start winning.   We talked about Steinbrenner and how his rep changed with Yankee fans.  He's from NY and I follow NY baseball so we used those analogies.

D.  I made the case that the stadium experience improving is like putting lipstick on a pig --- and said in his shoes I'd simply work hard at getting a new stadium.  He agreed.

E. Invited me as his guest to come to a game.  Alas, I never got to do that.

 

I'd say the main thing I took from the conversation was cool guy, he really cared.  He got into some detail about how he's trying to improve parking and help fans get in and out of the stadium quicker.   But its not hard to tell when someone is just giving you lip service versus really listening.  He came off like he was really listening.  I got in some digs on Dan and Bruce as them being the main reason of fan apathy.  My impression is of the two he seemed more protective of Dan than Bruce.   He didn't say anything about Bruce one way or another.  

 

 

https://thefandc.radio.com/articles/snider-redskins-once-again-fail-fans

 

Brian Lafemina is a nice man. Knows what he’s was doing and brought some class to the Washington Redskins organization when arriving last May as the new Chief Operating Officer.

And now he’s gone.

 

Lafemina, along with three top business-side executives, separated from the team on Wednesday, according to 106.7 The Fan. No initial word on whether they quit or were terminated, but it doesn’t really matter.

It was amazing someone with Lafemina’s outstanding credentials came to work for Redskins owner Dan Snyder. Everyone around the NFL knows the place is toxic. Forget football-side problems, the business operation regularly runs through people. Lafemina was trusting enough to believe he could turn things around in 1,000 days as he often said. He wasn’t given a fourth of the time.

 

Lafemina admitted the emperor had no clothes. After the Redskins repeatedly lying for nearly 15 years about waiting lists and sellouts, Lafemina was the first team official to admit the sellout streak dating back to 1966 wasn’t true. FedEx Field was half empty most games this season. Opposing fans were sometimes the majority. It seems Lafemina’s plan for cheaper food and perks for season ticket holders didn’t work.

The Redskins’ generation of abusing fans financially while seldom winning combined to strip the team of its once fierce fan backing. Indeed, the team’s stranglehold on local fans is done. The Capitals and Nationals make it a three-team competition nowadays.

 

Lafemina tried to market the team rather than demand fans come. That’s not Snyder’s way. It was not a good fit between the two. Lafemina won’t have trouble finding work, but Snyder will have trouble finding someone better.

If the Redskins returned to dominance, certainly fans would return, too. But the 7-8 season offered enough hope earlier this season for big crowds and they didn’t come. Sunday’s season finale against Philadelphia promises an Eagles’ majority in a half-filled stadium.

Another stormy day at Redskins Park is just business as usual.

Rick Snider has covered Washington sports since 1978. Follow him on Twitter: @Snide_Remarks.

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15 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

My impression is of the two he seemed more protective of Dan than Bruce.   He didn't say anything about Bruce one way or another.  

That’s the saddest part.  He was doing his best to protect Dan, a very difficult job in and of itself.  Then Dan fires him.

 

On a side note, perhaps it’s out there and I just haven’t seen it yet, but I’m surprised nobody has chimed in with the “you guys are mourning the marketing dept., you’ll complain about anything” take.  As if the outrage is built on folks thinking Brian LaFemina wins football games.  No, the outrage is built off of yet more dysfunction, where Bruce Allen reigns supreme AGAIN.

 

Also, just think about this, with where this team and season has gone, who ends up being fired?

 

The newest regime of marketing executives and DJ Swearinger.  Can’t make this stuff up.

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Bruce Allen isn't the problem.  Of course he needs to be fired, but there's only one person in that building who refuses to do so.  He's the problem.

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11 hours ago, Birdlives said:

Poor Dan and Bruce. Just a ton of bad luck.

 

I would’ve dissected more, but I came up with this many off the top of my head. I figured this was sufficient.

 

Post of the Year. Well done, my friend, well done. I was going to post everything thats gone wrong since Snyder came along. This nails it.

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15 hours ago, wunderhill said:

Honestly, we need a hell of a lot more than that. someone picked BA and continues to employ him. Bruce being gone fixes nothing.

I agree with this IF Snyder doesn’t change his ways.  If BA was fired and somebody competent was hired to run the football side of the business AND the midget let him run things his way, change for the good could happen.

 

I also could win the lottery tomorrow.

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1 minute ago, Csup said:

I agree with this IF Snyder doesn’t change his ways.  If BA was fired and somebody competent was hired to run the football side of the business AND the midget let him run things his way, change for the good could happen.

 

I also could win the lottery tomorrow.

 

And my wife might say it's ok to get some hookers for a wild orgy too.

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