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I also think the reason I keep doing the trade-back mocks is I'm putting RB very high on my list of needs this year, and #13 is too early for RB and #45 might be too late. So a trade-back makes sense to get one somewhere in-between while adding an asset/pick

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46 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

I also think the reason I keep doing the trade-back mocks is I'm putting RB very high on my list of needs this year, and #13 is too early for RB and #45 might be too late. So a trade-back makes sense to get one somewhere in-between while adding an asset/pick

I keep thinking the same.  A trade back 5-20 spots and landing Guice or Jones works for me.  With that said, I’m starting the think this FO won’t play along.  Two things that would tick me off a bit this draft - not landing one of the top backs (unless we sign a good one, but even then, this draft is loaded there) - and ignoring the TE position (or waiting till the 6th/7th).  

 

A third would be ignoring the trenches.  

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On ‎2‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 4:10 PM, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Sorry if this post is long on text but I had fun with a mock draft today.

 

Mock Draft 1.0 with Round 1 Trades:

Free Agent Assumptions (Big names that could sway early round pick directions)

RB Le’Veon Bell – Oakland

WR Jarvis Landry – Baltimore

WR Allen Robinson – San Francisco

OG Andrew Norwell – Houston

ILB Zach Brown – Washington

QB Teddy Bridgewater – Jacksonville

QB Case Keenum – Minneapolis

WR Sammy Watkins – LA Rams

CB Trumaine Johnson – Cleveland

QB Kirk Cousins – Denver

 

Tried not to force trades. Also didn’t do 2nd round trades, as that’s even harder to project.

 

Round 1:

1.1    CLE: Josh Rosen, QB UCLA

1.2    NYG: Saquan Barkley, RB Penn State

1.3    IND: Bradley Chubb, Edge NC State

1.4    CLE:: Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS Alabama

*Trade: Miami sends 1.11 & 2.10 to Denver for 1.5

1.5    MIA: : Sam Darnold, QB USC

1.6    NYJ: Baker Mayfield, QB Oklahoma

1.7    TB: Derwin James, SS Florida State

1.8    CHI: Calvin Ridley, WR Alabama

1.9    OAK: Roquan Smith, ILB Georgia

1.10  SF: Mike McGlinchey, OT Notre Dame

1.11  DEN: Quenton Nelson, OG Notre Dame

1.12  CIN: Connor Williams, OT Texas

*Trade: Buffalo sends 1.21 & 2.23 to Washington for 1.13

1.13  BUF: Lamar Jackson, QB Louisville

1.14  GB: Tremaine Edmunds, ILB/OLB Va. Tech

1.15  ARI: Josh Allen, QB Wyoming

*Trade: NE sends 1.31 & 2.31 & 5.31 to Baltimore for 1.16

1.16  NE: Harold Landry, Edge Boston College

1.17  LAC: Orlando Brown, OT Oklahoma

1.18  SEA: Maurice Hurst, DT Michigan

1.19  DAL: James Washington, WR Oklahoma State

1.20  DET: Derrius Guice, RB LSU

1.21  WAS: Vita Vea, NT Washington

1.22  BUF: Da’Ron Payne, NT Alabama

1.23  LAR: Joshua Jackson, CB Iowa

1.24  CAR: Courtland Sutton, WR SMU

1.25  TEN: Denzel Ward, CB Ohio State

1.26  ATL: Isaiah Wynn, OG Georgia

1.27  NO: Mark Andrews, TE Oklahoma

1.28  PIT: Rashaan Evans, ILB Alabama

1.29  JAX: Dallas Goedert, TE South Dakota State

1.30  MIN: Taven Bryan, DT Florida

1.31  BAL: Arden Key, Edge LSU

1.32  PHI: Kolton Miller, OT UCLA

 

Round 2:

2.1 CLE: Christian Kirk, WR Texas A&M

2.2 NYG: Billy Price, OC Ohio State

2.3 CLE: Ronald Jones, RB USC

2.4 IND: Will Hernandez, OG UTEP

2.5 NYJ: Marcus Davenport, Edge UTSA

2.6 TB: Sony Michel, RB Georgia

2.7 CHI: Isaiah Oliver, CB Colorado

2.8 DEN: Jaire Alexander, CB LSU

2.9 NE: Harrison Phillips, DT Stanford

2.10 DEN: Marcell Ateman, WR Oklahoma State

2.11 OAK: Chukwuma Okorafor, OT Western Michigan

2.12 WAS: Nick Chubb, RB Georgia

2.13 GB: Jeff Holland, Edge Auburn

2.14 CIN: Leighton Vander Esch, ILB Boise St.

2.15 ARI: Anthony Miller, WR Memphis

2.16 LAC: Malik Jefferson, ILB Texas

2.17 NYJ: Royce Freeman, RB Oregon

2.18 DAL: Kameron Kelly, CB San Diego State

2.19 DET: Chad Thomas, Edge Miami (FL)

2.20 BAL: Rashaad Penny, RB San Diego State

2.21 BUF: Auden Tate, WR Florida State

2.22 KC: Ronnie Harrison, SS Alabama

2.23 WAS: Deontay Burnett, WR USC

2.24 CAR: Sam Hubbard, Edge Ohio State

2.25 TEN: Armani Watts, FS Texas A&M

2.26 ATL: Derrick Nnandi, DT Florida State

2.27 SF: Holton Hill, CB Texas

2.28 PIT: Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State

2.29 JAX: Braden Smith, OG Auburn

2.30 MIN: Mike White, QB Western Kentucky

2.31 BAL: Mike Gesicki, TE Penn State

2.32 CLE: Frank Ragnow, OC Arkansas

 

 

2018 NFL Draft Wish List
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1st Da'Ron Payne, Alabama DT(trade with Buff)
2nd Billy Price, Ohio State OG/OC
2nd Sony Michel, Georgia RB (trade with Buff)
4th Kyle Lauletta, Richmond QB
5th Mike Gesicki, Penn State TE
6th Airius Moore, N.C. State ILB/OLB
7th Eddy Pineiro, Florida K
7th Korey Robertson, S Miss WR (acquired from Rams)
 

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This is something I put together. I know a few guys out there do this method too so its hardly revolutionary but it does give a good look at prospects statistics. Now this does not take into account any film at all but believe it or not this shows some very interesting things. The formula is simple. Solo tackles, Sacks, and Tackles for loss are all included. They are based on a team by team basis. It's the total production value of the particular player in those categories for a total rating number. I included some current NFL players to what they looked like in college too. 

 

It might surprise you how close it can grade a prospect. Are these a slam dunk? Of course not. Can players play above a statistical number they had in college? You betcha. I would never claim it to be a be all end all but as I said before it gives an interesting look. The list does include some players that may not play in a 3-4 at all. Some are ends and some are NT. Some of them could be moved into a 3-4 front IMO. I included Wormley and Allen so you can see what last years 3-4 DL looked like in a quick snap shot. One in the first and one in the third. So have a look and let me know what you think. Also of note look at Hood's numbers and where he was drafted. A 1st rounder that should have been a 3rd. So yes it can show hyped up players as well. Don't get mad at me Payne supporters :)

 

3-4 DE/NT Solo Tackles Sacks TFL Total School SOS Combine
Bradley Chubb 8 34.4 27.7 70.1 N.C. State 21  
Harrison Phillips 6.8 23.8 23.4 54 Stanford 28  
Maurice Hurst 6.3 13 11.8 31.1 Michigan 9  
Deadrin Sinat 6.3 16.6 10.2 33.1 South Florida 106  
Vita Vea 5.1 9.4 6.5 21 Washington 60  
Taven Bryan 5 17.3 8.3 30.6 Florida 24  
Tim Settle 4.8 12.5 12.3 29.6 Virginia Tech 55  
Breeland Speaks 4.8 24.1 10.8 39.7 Ole Miss 61  
R.J. McIntosh 4.5 5.8 11.3 21.6 Miami 13  
DaRone Payne 4.5 2.5 1 8 Alabama 22  
Duke Ejiofor 4.1 25.9 16.3 46.3 Wake Forrest 17  
Greg Gilmore 4.1 19.2 13 36.3 LSU 38  
Andrew Brown 4.1 12.5 15 31.6 Virginia 46  
Trenton Thompson 3.8 0 3.7 7.5 Georgia 8  
B.J. Hill 3.8 6.8 4.1 14.7 N.C. State 21  
Khalil McKenzie 3.4 9 4.6 17 Tennessee 47  
Rasheem Green 3.2 22.2 15.2 40.6 USC 27  
Christian Lacouture 2.7 15.3 11.1 29.1 LSU 38  
Kendrick Norton 2.5 4.6 5.9 13 Miami 13  
DaShawn Hand 1.8 21.7 3.5 27 Alabama 22  
               
Aaron Donald 7.9 45.8 32.2 85.9      
Ziggy Hood 4.4 15.1 6.7 26.2      
JJ Watt 8.6 31.8 32.3 72.7      
Jonathan Allen 6 19.8 13.6 39.4      
Chris Wormley 3.8 12.2 6.3 22.3      
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20 hours ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

I also think the reason I keep doing the trade-back mocks is I'm putting RB very high on my list of needs this year, and #13 is too early for RB and #45 might be too late. So a trade-back makes sense to get one somewhere in-between while adding an asset/pick

 

I hope Tandler, Standig are wrong that the Redskins likely are happy with their backs and are staying pat.  Cooley-Sheehan were just debating the issue wondering could that be so -- Cooley goes he hopes not.

 

Mocks obviously are just guesses - but for what they are worth, I've noticed Michel and Jones creep into the first round quite a bit of late.  If both guys burn up the conbine which is feasible to me, wonder if the buzz spikes even higher where they are considered solid first round guys.   Mayock was on TV yesterday comparing Michel to Kamara.

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Matt Miller has Vander Esch going to us at #13. I confess though I know nothing about him.

 

  1. Revisiting the tape on #BoiseState LB Leighton Vander Esch and I underrated him on my first watch. He's an ascending player (both physically and mentally).

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    "He's a team leader in the locker room and on the field. [He's a] really likable guy... Broke our team huddles almost every time." - #BoiseState teammate on LB Leighton Vander Esch. Pairing solid intangibles with a strong on-field resumé should shoot LVE up draft boards

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    The more I watch Leighton Vander Esch the higher he climbs in my rankings. Will be a top 32 player if he tests like I expect.

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1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Don't know if anyone here likes Christian Kirk? :)  But if there is someone like that, they'd like this mock from Rob Rang.  He's going #16.  We take R. Smith.

 

http://draftscout.tsxfiles.com/2018/02/14/rob-rangs-mock-draft-top-qb-crop-since-famed-1983-class/

 

ahem... who??? Christian KirkCousins???

 

also I have seen Van Der Esch projecting as an OLB, but yeah great speed and size combo, interesting prospect, but crazy early to take him in the 1st it would seem.  Many young FA options at ILB exist:  http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/inside-linebacker/

 

also we're chatting on RBs in FA this year and thinking about 2019 prospects as well, and there's a possibility that a handful of elite names could be there in the 2nd for us in Guice, RJ, or K Johnson, obviously who knows but its possible.  Great value on FA RBs, and yeah, if we do anything at all which we may not.  I'll say it again I still like Perine and see his potential as the "thunder".

 

also later round RBs:

 

John Kelly (2nd coming of Kamara in some ways)

Bo scar

K Ballage (highly productive player)

a wadley

Darrell Williams (excellent in ball security)

Ito Smith??

 

essentially someone on the team will need to be cut I presume to make an RB add:

 

Kelly (maybe)

Perine (nope)

Thompson (def nope)

Bibbs (just signed)

Marshall??

 

also @fordranger76 this is a great list you have.  I was checking out something similar last night on all draft prospects putting the emphasis on their production in school and their "market share" and how they compare to the college careers of NFL players that have succeeded.  very interesting insights and names you wouldn't really expect.  Some of it is dated though from last spring but it still has merit.  https://www.youtube.com/user/bigbass141

 

 

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31 minutes ago, freakofthesouth said:

also @fordranger76 this is a great list you have.  I was checking out something similar last night on all draft prospects putting the emphasis on their production in school and their "market share" and how they compare to the college careers of NFL players that have succeeded.  very interesting insights and names you wouldn't really expect.  Some of it is dated though from last spring but it still has merit.  https://www.youtube.com/user/bigbass141

I have seen that guys work before and its got some good insight. Where he differs from what I am looking at it appears is age and a speed score or something similar. I think that's fine but that is a ton more data to add at the moment. I might adjust at the combine to get a better feel of things. I'm doing running backs next because that seems to be the main wants of the board along with the DL.

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1 hour ago, freakofthesouth said:

Great value on FA RBs, and yeah, if we do anything at all which we may not.  I'll say it again I still like Perine and see his potential as the "thunder".

 

also later round RBs:

 

John Kelly (2nd coming of Kamara in some ways)

Bo scar

K Ballage (highly productive player)

a wadley

Darrell Williams (excellent in ball security)

Ito Smith??

 

 

I like (but don't love) Perine but I see him as a rotational guy.  For me the kicker was watching a lot of Dalvin Cook during 2016 -- I am no scout but the dude was so explosive and it was so obvious -- it didn't feel like I had to be a rocket scientist to project him to the NFL.  Ditto Kamara who I took in the mock draft we did on the board last year. 

 

I don't see explosion with this current group on the roster.  Maybe Thompson but he's a third down guy.  So I am hung up on guys like Michel and Jones.  Guice who is probably not as fast but has some speed, too.  Heck I'd trade up for Barkley.    I want a marquee guy -- preferably with explosion.  I am tired of fishing through the next tier of players at RB.  We haven't been good at it for the most part.

 

 

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6 hours ago, fordranger76 said:

Vita Vea 5.1 9.4 6.5 21 Washington 60

 

Where are you pulling this data from, I'm seeing different stats for Vea than you posted.

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13 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

I like (but don't love) Perine but I see him as a rotational guy.  For me the kicker was watching a lot of Dalvin Cook during 2016 -- I am no scout but the dude was so explosive and it was so obvious -- it didn't feel like I had to be a rocket scientist to project him to the NFL.  Ditto Kamara who I took in the mock draft we did on the board last year. 

 

I don't see explosion with this current group on the roster.  Maybe Thompson but he's a third down guy.  So I am hung up on guys like Michel and Jones.  Guice who is probably not as fast but has some speed, too.  Heck I'd trade up for Barkley.    I want a marquee guy -- preferably with explosion.  I am tired of fishing through the next tier of players at RB.  We haven't been good at it for the most part.

 

 

 

I totally agree, I feel the same way myself.  If I had my druthers, I would probably lovingly part ways with R Kelly and seek to find a guy the defense really has to account for; a dynamic back that can run good routes.  I think between FA and draft, lots of options to upgrade.  and I agree I had a similar time being drawn to Dalvin Cook and envisioning him in the B and G... he's already one of the best backs in the NFL.

 

So lets hash it out a little, who has the most elite upside of the RB options:

 

L Bell (psshhh)

J McKinnon (a great value), can be a dynamic option

Hyde (sure)

Crowell?

Jeremy Hill?

 

Rookies:

 

S Barkley (the Johnathan Allen of 2018?)

Guice:  i like this guy, tons of effort; gets that marshawn lynch comp

Ronald Jones: super fast and explosive and would be perfect for us; that speed must be accounted for.  I think he's my fave of all these possibilities.  the next Jamaal Charles, perfect fit as we replicate KC's offense.

Sony: dynamic baller from the SEC but fumble problems from what I have read.

K Johnson: I dont love him but others do and I think he could be an asset?  Looks like he has a great size/speed combination

R Penny?  Not very dynamic maybe??

Bo Scar: who doesn't want a Derrick Henry clone? I do.  dude is kind of a freak of nature lil bit.

John Kelly: peep his game tape vs Florida and you will see.

Nyheim Hines?

Mark Walton?

 

anybody got sleepers they like?

 

 

 

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27 minutes ago, freakofthesouth said:

 

Sony: dynamic baller from the SEC but fumble problems from what I have read.

 

 

Just looked it up, no fumbles lost last year.  He did have fumbles lost previous seasons though.  But yeah I saw the Brugler report that had him flagged for fumbles.  Casserly among others have said fumbling issues can often be fixed in the pros citing examples.  Cook had a fumbling issue in college, I believe Kamara too if I recall.

 

Michel also is a good pass protector which Jay seems to value.  He has decent hands though caught more balls in previous seasons as opposed to last year.  A 7.9 YPA is sick.  And the dude looked explosive against Alabama which has a good defense.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, fordranger76 said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/schools/washington/2017.html

 

I am only counting solo tackles as opposed to total tackles. Maybe that is what you are seeing? It could be that the stats I have are wrong as well.

 

That's strange, its the same site I'm looking at.

 

Check this link.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vita-vea-1.html

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3 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

That's strange, its the same site I'm looking at.

 

Check this link.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/vita-vea-1.html

The numbers are for the average on the team. As in what percentage he owned tackle, sacks, and tackle for loss out of every Huskie. Perhaps that's the mix up? So for instance he only had 5.1 percent of the total solo tackles his team produced. 

A question I asked Keim. I would say Vita and Payne are not going to be the pick. Im throwing darts but Im going with Harrison Phillips in the second or Bryan. Just call it a hunch.

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@Skinsinparadise Love the stats on MT/att.  There goes Penny. I get it.  I mean dude tore up the Senior Bowl...they keep saying he isnt a great receiver and he caught a huge TD so... yeah i wouldnt be mad.

 

And glad to hear re Sony, and good point about Cook and Kamara fumbling too, and how players can change, I have always thought very highly of Sony, dude is a big time SEC player and will be dynamic in the NFL.  He's a difference maker.  Is it possible that he or RJ or Guice will be there for us in the 2nd??  Or maybe even Penny or K Johnson?  any of them could come in and make a difference.

 

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Unless a stud like Fitzpatrick or Nelson miraculously drops to #13 I think we are trading out big time. 

 

If the Browns spend big in FA I would even drop out the first to pick up their second rounders plus change. I mean that could leave them picking 1,4 and 13 on the back of FA. 

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22 minutes ago, freakofthesouth said:

@Skinsinparadise Love the stats on MT/att.  There goes Penny. I get it.  I mean dude tore up the Senior Bowl...they keep saying he isnt a great receiver and he caught a huge TD so... yeah i wouldnt be mad.

 

And glad to hear re Sony, and good point about Cook and Kamara fumbling too, and how players can change, I have always thought very highly of Sony, dude is a big time SEC player and will be dynamic in the NFL.  He's a difference maker.  Is it possible that he or RJ or Guice will be there for us in the 2nd??  Or maybe even Penny or K Johnson?  any of them could come in and make a difference.

 

 

The combine can have some seriously influence on the stock of the speed positions:  WR, CB, RB.

 

I saw one report that some think Guice runs a 4.4.  If that's the case and considering the power he runs with, I wonder if that makes him a top half of the first rounder.   At the end of the college season, Guice was often top 15 in mocks.  I've seen him slip since.

 

Michel and Jones have been the opposite.  2nd-3rd rounders.  Then high 2nd rounders.  Now often late first rounders.  If I recall Jeremiah had Jones around 16. 

 

All of that could be meaningless.  But if the mocks are based on buzz, Jones and Michel have been hot on that count of late.

 

Speaking of the combine, Dalvin Cook's stock went lower after his mediocre combine numbers.   So yeah combine could be an interesting X factor.

 

My gut is Michel, Jones, Guice put up great combine numbers and it elevates their stock some.  Yeah I doubt anyone of the three are there with our 2nd Rd pick.  I think drafting one of them would be about trading down some in the first and maybe picking up a third rounder. 

 

 

I wasn't a big Penny guy.  But he looked quicker than I thought he was at the Senior bowl.  I like that he can return kicks.  I think he likely is there in the 2nd round.  Not sure about Chubb -- fast enough?  Ditto K. Johnson -- though love that the ones who love the dude compare him to Le'veon Bell.

 

 

 

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@Skinsinparadise word up!

 

The combine will be huge in determining these players' avails for our 2nd.  I guess the point is we have multiple possible options in the 2nd to add an dynamic RB; or DT; or OG.

 

Continuing, though, on RB, I have noticed the same trends with the aforementioned RBs.  Guice i have seen slip and to be honest i'm not sure why; dude to me is a 1st rounder.  According to nfldraftscout.com and their approximated 40 times, this is what is projected, I suppose, for RBs, in terms of... 40 times:

 

Ronald Jones 4.39

K Johnson 4.45 (!)

Josh Adams 4.48

Saquan 4.49

Mark Walton 4.49

k Ballage 4.49

Guice 4.52

Penny 4.52

Sony 4.53 (?)

J Kelly 4.53

 

Im really not sure how they get these times but here they are, they even have a high and a low on their individual profiles.

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Looking just a little bit more at these nfldrsftscout.com stats and pointing out the anamolous- they have Roquan running a 4.54.  If he somehow crushes his 40 at the combine he could break 4.5 and that would be... very rare speed for an ILB.

 

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/members/ratings/tsx_players.php?genpos=ILB&draftyear=2018&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

 

interestingly enough, in comparison, found Zach Brown's draft profile- he ran a 4.5 at 244 lbs.

 

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/zach-brown?id=2532804

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PFF guy on 106.7.  Some of his takes

 

He thinks some of the next tier QBs like Lauletta will be better than the first tier.  He likes Lauletta and charted all of his games.

 

For RB, he's rather go next tier in the draft for the position than the top tier guys.  He's not a big Guice or Michel guy.  He'd rather draft someone later in the draft like Freeman, Ballage.    He said he was a big Kareem Hunt guy last year before the draft.

 

Deep threats he likes later in the draft Texas Tech -- Keke Coutee. 

 

He loves Vea.  No brainer pick for the Redskins at 13.  He has quick feet, has power, can do everything.  He's not just a run stuffer, can rush the passer.  He's a rare cat.

 

Roquan Smith -- he loves too.  If he's a Redskins fan, one of these guys is who you want: Vea is 1, Smith is 1A.    What makes him special is he can cover.  He can do it all.  He protects you in the nickel.  

 

Davenport, he likes but not loves, thinks he's a bit raw. 

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5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

PFF guy on 106.7.  Some of his takes

 

He thinks some of the next tier QBs like Lauletta will be better than the first tier.  He likes Lauletta and charted all of his games.

 

For RB, he's rather go next tier in the draft for the position than the top tier guys.  He's not a big Guice or Michel guy.  He'd rather draft someone later in the draft like Freeman, Ballage.    He said he was a big Kareem Hunt guy last year before the draft.

 

Deep threats he likes later in the draft Texas Tech -- Keke Coutee. 

 

He loves Vea.  No brainer pick for the Redskins at 13.  He has quick feet, has power, can do everything.  He's not just a run stuffer, can rush the passer.  He's a rare cat.

 

Roquan Smith -- he loves too.  If he's a Redskins fan, one of these guys is who you want: Vea is 1, Smith is 1A.    What makes him special is he can cover.  He can do it all.  He protects you in the nickel.  

 

Davenport, he likes but not loves, thinks he's a bit raw. 

 

Good intel here.  I love me some Ballage, dude could be great.

 

Deep threats yes, but immediate day 1 WR2, probably not.  I dig Keke though.  lets see how they run...

 

Hard to argue with the Vea and R Smith love.  Both are outstanding and will make a difference, and the point about R Smith protecting you in the nickel, is that against the run?  Thats where its been the worst run defense correct? so yeah.  But also keep in mind Su'a could help us in the nickel as well...

 

I have heard some negatives on Vea though in terms of his production, work ethic, that kind of thing, but i still think he would be great, especially if he can get after the passer which I had also heard some criticism there.  But yeah big athletic dude.  a presence.

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