twa Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Isn't 'very best' Democrat like saying tallest midget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, twa said: Isn't 'very best' Democrat like saying tallest midget? In the same way ‘very best’ republican is like saying greatest Hitler impersonator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoCalMike Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I am still a bit perplexed as to why people view Biden as a candidate any different from Hillary (generally speaking. Seems like those who are rah rah for Biden are merely banking on Trump fatigue over people actually caring about policies. If the majority had an appetite for a middle of the road last-gen Democratic candidate.......ugh. I suppose the thinking is "Moderate Dem" would have beat Trump in 2016 if it was anyone besides Hillary due to the irrational hate for her that seemed pretty predisposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: I am still a bit perplexed as to why people view Biden as a candidate any different from Hillary 1) Male 2) Not married to Bill 3) No Benghazi for the lunatics to attache themselves to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Llevron said: 1) Male 2) Not married to Bill 3) No Benghazi for the lunatics to attache themselves to. Yeah...... That is another worry of mine. Is there really any kind of appetite for a Biden Presidency by........anyone? Or is it more, about throwing a guy up there no one reaaaally wants there, but think will be just less scary to the broader voting base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 51 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: I am still a bit perplexed as to why people view Biden as a candidate any different from Hillary (generally speaking. Seems like those who are rah rah for Biden are merely banking on Trump fatigue over people actually caring about policies. If the majority had an appetite for a middle of the road last-gen Democratic candidate.......ugh. I suppose the thinking is "Moderate Dem" would have beat Trump in 2016 if it was anyone besides Hillary due to the irrational hate for her that seemed pretty predisposed. That's exactly it. Hillary already had close to 50% of the population that didn't like her 18mo before the election. Biden's like/dislike #s are like 60/35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 46 minutes ago, NoCalMike said: Yeah...... That is another worry of mine. Is there really any kind of appetite for a Biden Presidency by........anyone? Or is it more, about throwing a guy up there no one reaaaally wants there, but think will be just less scary to the broader voting base? Its the second. The Dem establishment wants a return to their neoliberal comfort zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, skinsfan_1215 said: That's exactly it. Hillary already had close to 50% of the population that didn't like her 18mo before the election. Biden's like/dislike #s are like 60/35. What were Biden's all the other times he ran and lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Just now, twa said: What were Biden's all the other times he ran and lost? You mean before he was VP for 8 years? Don't know, don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 minute ago, skinsfan_1215 said: You mean before he was VP for 8 years? Don't know, don't care. Being VP for 8 yrs is certainly more relevant than approval numbers, past or present. People favor the known unless they want a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: Its the second. The Dem establishment wants a return to their neoliberal comfort zone. Based on polling so far, it isn’t just the Dem establishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo the kKklown Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, No Excuses said: Based on polling so far, it isn’t just the Dem establishment. the polling that is only sampling people over 50? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said: the polling that is only sampling people over 50? I mean polling the most reliable voting demographic in primaries makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Once the debates begin two things are going to become apparent quick: 1) How much the base of the Democratic party has moved (either more left or back to the center) 2) What percentage of the base that isn't getting their candidate of choice is going to play ball and vote for the nominee in the general election. I am not trying to be overly critical of Biden (yet) or poo-poo his early favorable polling, but I do question who exactly is being polled in regards to him and how long his "Obama's Grandpa" appeal will last once he starts being pressed on actual policy vs other candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 We've tried far right, mod right, moderate, mod left...can we go the way of the progressive just once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berggy9598 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 14 hours ago, visionary said: Pains me to say there’s too strong of a homophobic contingency in some of the blue demographics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, Simmsy said: We've tried far right, mod right, moderate, mod left...can we go the way of the progressive just once? No. We tried that in the 1930s n 40s. It actually worked. The citizens liked it because they prospered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 FDR would be considered far left by today's standards. Seemed he was pretty successful, yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simmsy Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, clietas said: No. We tried that in the 1930s n 40s. It actually worked. The citizens liked it because they prospered. It was so horrible that we had to change the Constitution so that could never happen again. Damn FDR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Not sure where to put this. I mean, Wohl has been caught twice making **** up about a 2020 Presidential Candidate. Maybe we just need "The Worst of the Political World" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Dude ain't even good at being a phony. Roger Stone he ain't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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