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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Presidential Election :11/3/2020- Trump the Impeached vs Superplanner Lizzie & some other Dems

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Why not.  We already have 2 candidates.  The idiot in Chief and. Rep. John Delaney.

 

So, expect this thread to get the occasional update before things get real heated after the 2018 Midterms.

 

Announced 2020 Presidential Candidates

 

1/20/17-  Donald J Trump filed for reelection on the day of his inauguration. (GOP)

7/28/17- MD Congressman John Delaney 

11/6/18- Tech Entrepenuer Andrew Yang

*11/11/18- WV State Senator Richard Ojeda 

12/31/18- MA Senator Elizabeth Warren 

1/11/19- HI Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard

1/12/19- Former San Antonio Mayor/ US HUD Secretary Julian Castro

*1/15/19- NY Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

1/21/19- CA Senator Kamala Harris

1/23/19- South Bend, IN Mayor Pete Buttigieg

1/28/19- Spiritualist/Author Marianne Williamnson

2/1/19- NJ Senator Cory Booker

2/10/19- MN Senator Amy Klobuchar

2/19/19- VT Senator Bernie Sanders

*3/1/19- WA Governor Jay Inslee

*3/4/19- Former CO Governor John Hickenlooper

*3/14/19- Former TX Congressman Beto O’Rourke

3/30/19- Miramar, FL Mayor Wayne Messam

*4/4/19- Ohio Congressman Tim Ryan

*4/8/19- CA Congressman Eric Swalwell

4/15/19- Former MA Governor Bill Weld (GOP)

*4/22/19- MA Congressman Seth Moulton

4/25/19- Former Veep Joe Biden

5/2/9- CO Senator Michael Bennet

5/14/19- MT Governor Steve Bullock

*5/16/19- NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio

6/23/19- Former PA Congressman Joe Sestak

7/19/19- Billionaire Tom Steyer

8/25/19- Talk Show Host/Former U.S. Congressman- Joe Walsh (GOP)

*9/8/19- Former SC Governor/Congressman Mark Sanford (GOP)

11/13/19- Former MA Governor Deval Patrick

 

*Announced candidates dropping out of the race 

It's time for this side to fill up with failed candidates.

 

1/25/19- WV State Senator Richard Ojeda.

7/8/19- CA congressman Eric Swalwell.

8/15/19- Former CO Governor John Hickenlooper

8/21/19- WA Governor Jay Inslee

8/23/19- MA Congressman Seth Moulton

8/28/19- NY Senator Kirsten Gillibrand

9/20/19- NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio

10/24/19- Ohio Congressman Tim Ryan

11/1/19- Former TX Congressman Beto O'Rourke

11/12/19- Former SC Governor/Congressman Mark Sanford (GOP)

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Trump's first confirmed 2020 Democratic challenger is tied with him in a new poll

 

#2020Vision: Rep. Delaney enters 2020 race; Warren's fingerprints on the Democratic agenda

 

Also, there's talk of a unity independent ticket:

Kasich, Hickenlooper eye joint 2020 bid

 

I would vote for that unity ticket, but I'm not sure they can really get it going.

 

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I'd think Harris and Booker are almost a given to run for the Dems nom. Keep an eye on Gavin Newsom too. Not a huge fan but he has the movie star looks to make it far.

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2 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said:

I'd think Harris and Booker are almost a given to run for the Dems nom. Keep an eye on Gavin Newsom too. Not a huge fan but he has the movie star looks to make it far.

The 2020 Democratic field is going to be larger than the 2016 GOP field.

 

I think any Republican thinking of challenging Trump for the GOP nomination in 2020, is a lost cause. The base will vote for Trump and the rest of GOP will go along, in the fall; just like they did in 2016. 

 

A third party bid is ripe for the taking in 2020; especially if the Dems nominate a Sanders type candidate.

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I don't think the Dems will have a clown car of candidates. They will have some kind of consensus on a couple, one or two centrist candidates and one or two Sanders wing. I just hope the eventual candidate is charismatic who can sell the platform, go to every state.

 

For me, that's one reason I don't like the EC, not every state is visited, just certain ones.

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7 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

I don't think the Dems will have a clown car of candidates. They will have some kind of consensus on a couple, one or two centrist candidates and one or two Sanders wing. I just hope the eventual candidate is charismatic who can sell the platform, go to every state.

 

For me, that's one reason I don't like the EC, not every state is visited, just certain ones.

Just because the Dems could have 16 or greater candidates entering the race; doesn't mean it will be full of clowns.

 

The race will probably settle down to a centrist candidate vs someone from the Sanders wing, but several Dems will make a run for it.  The 2020 Democratic race is wide open.

 

From the top of my head, I can name these potential candidates:

 

Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. Kirsten Gillibrand, Amy Klobuchar, Julian Castro, Al Franken, Andrew Cuomo, Terry MCAuliffe, Antonio Villaraigosa, Cory Booker, Deval Patrick

 

The Dem field is going to be initially large.  It may whittle down some before the primaries start but definitely after that first month.

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No to: Sanders, Warren, Harris, Cuomo, McAuliffe, Patrick, Antonio Who?, Franken

 

I don't think anyone votes for a Castro even if not related. 

 

Leaves Biden, Klobuchar, Gillibrand, Booker.

 

Will probably have to be Biden (white man, though I hate that it might be necessary), and one of the women.

 

The platform can be left leaning but the ticket needs to appear centrist.

 

And they have to show how they are different from the Republicans and what that means for all the people. Campaign in ALL states.

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31 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said:

Antonio Villaraigosa

No way this guy appeals to a national Democratic base. I've only heard him in one softball interview and his answers made me cringe. He worked for Herbalife after getting out of government. That's toxic to me. You are working for a company that takes advantage of the poor. Everyone knows people fall into the MLM trap.

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2 minutes ago, Kilmer17 said:

Biden can go eff himself.  He shouldn't have laid down for Hillary in 16. 

Geez, his son just died. He didn't have the will to mount a presidential campaign amid his grief. 

 

Could you do something so profound?

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Just now, LadySkinsFan said:

Geez, his son just died. He didn't have the will to mount a presidential campaign amid his grief. 

 

Could you do something so profound?

I simply don't buy that.  

 

he should have been in and given Hillary a real challenge.  

 

We would all be better off today. 

 

So screw him going forward 

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I don't know enough about the Dems and who they could run.  But someone youthful with some good energy and different ideas.

 

Biden is going to be older than dirt by 2020.  So will Hillary.  Nothing fresh or new about them, they've been around long enough and it should be time for them to go, not get another go around.

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5 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

No to: Sanders, Warren, Harris, Cuomo, McAuliffe, Patrick, Antonio Who?, Franken

 

I don't think anyone votes for a Castro even if not related. 

 

Leaves Biden, Klobuchar, Gillibrand, Booker.

 

Will probably have to be Biden (white man, though I hate that it might be necessary), and one of the women.

 

The platform can be left leaning but the ticket needs to appear centrist.

 

And they have to show how they are different from the Republicans and what that means for all the people. Campaign in ALL states.

That's where it will be interesting.  If the Dems nominate a Centrist; they have a chance but the Sanders wing will not support a Centrist.  If the Dems nominate a Sanders wing candidate, they will lose in a landslide.

 

AS for campaigning in 50 states; not going to happen at the Presidential level.

 

Here's the states where the campaign will be fought:

 

New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Iowa and maybe Utah.  The other states will be either solidly Dem or solidly GOP.

 

The Dems do need to concentrate on all 50 states at the state and local levels though.  They absolutely need to be in control of at least 50%. preferably more than 50% by 2021; when the new lines will be redrawn.

 

 

5 hours ago, Spaceman Spiff said:

I don't know enough about the Dems and who they could run.  But someone youthful with some good energy and different ideas.

 

Biden is going to be older than dirt by 2020.  So will Hillary.  Nothing fresh or new about them, they've been around long enough and it should be time for them to go, not get another go around.

Here's an early look at potential Dems:

 

An Outrageously Early Field Guide to 2020

 

 

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This notion that if the Democrats go left they will lose is utter nonsense. 

 

Here is why, anybody they nominate will be painted as a left commie by the republican state run media, Trump (or whomever is running in 2020) and all those "centrists"/"independents" voters out there. 

 

So as a proud and vocal LIBERAL I say it's about damn time the Democrats stand on their principles and stop with the attempted appeal to "moderate" voters, who in my opinion are just wishy washy types who stand for nothing other than "let's not rock the boat". 

 

I agree that we need a candidate that can deliver the message and fight the attacks effectively. President Obama was that kind of candidate. 

 

I do agree that whoever the candidate is, they should campaign in every state. They should appeal to the voters in and around the large cities. That is where you will find the voters who can and eventually (if it ever happened) will turn a "red" state "purple" or "blue". This is what has happened in Virginia where Northern VA has successfully turned the state blue in national elections. 

 

I am sorry (but not) but trying to appeal to those who cling to guns and bibles is a loser for Democrats. Those folks are never voting D. Especially in national elections. Yes you could maybe find common ground on several, maybe even many, issues. But they still will never vote for D because there simply is a fundamental divide (reinforced by conservative media) that will make them unreachable and I for one am sick of seeing Democrats compromise their principles in order to try to appeal to regressive populations. 

 

Could this mean the D's lose in 2020? Sure I guess. Especially if the R's are smart and have a new candidate in 2020 (assuming Trump even makes it there). 

 

But I am betting they don't. I am betting seeing conservative control at its worst these four years will make enough people ready and open to a true left candidate. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, LadySkinsFan said:

I don't think the Dems will have a clown car of candidates. They will have some kind of consensus on a couple, one or two centrist candidates and one or two Sanders wing. I just hope the eventual candidate is charismatic who can sell the platform, go to every state.

 

For me, that's one reason I don't like the EC, not every state is visited, just certain ones.

You think the Electoral College is the reason not every state is visited?  It's probably the only reason the so-called fly-over states get any attention at all come election time.

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Bill Maher introduced Gavin last week as "Lt. Governor, running for Governor next election..."

I've loved him for years, dude really has some staying power.  (And women would think he's the second coming of Elvis...votes galore, y'all !)  :wub:

I don't think he'd do it yet...he's very focused on his state, and that's a good thing. 

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2 hours ago, skinsmarydu said:

Bill Maher introduced Gavin last week as "Lt. Governor, running for Governor next election..."

I've loved him for years, dude really has some staying power.  (And women would think he's the second coming of Elvis...votes galore, y'all !)  :wub:

I don't think he'd do it yet...he's very focused on his state, and that's a good thing. 

 

He does have a sex scandal in his closet though. Not that it appears to mean anything to the GOP these days (so maybe that's a plus?).

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7 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

 

He does have a sex scandal in his closet though. Not that it appears to mean anything to the GOP these days (so maybe that's a plus?).

I was not aware...do tell!  (and Trump is full of sex scandals...so there, GOP.) :chair:

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