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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Presidential Election :11/3/2020- Trump the Impeached vs Superplanner Lizzie & some other Dems

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It was already mentioned above, but "identity politics" only seem to be seen in a negative light when the said identity isn't "white working class" because we've heard non-stop how that is the..............IDENTITY............that the Democrats need to win back in order to win the 2020 election.   

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10 minutes ago, NoCalMike said:

It was already mentioned above, but "identity politics" only seem to be seen in a negative light when the said identity isn't "white working class" because we've hard non-stop how that is the..............IDENTITY............that the Democrats need to win back in order to win the 2020 election.   

 

This is certainly true. 

 

Edited to add: I am liking a Warren - Buttigieg ticket. Great policies and energy, plus expresses the themes of 2018. 

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Yeah I like Warren a lot too. I'd probably rank my top 3 preferences as: Sanders, Buttigieg, Warren.

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Saw Butigeig on Meet the Press. (And that's pretty much everything I know about him). I certainly thought I liked his "vibe". Really seemed positive. 

 

I know absolutely nothing about his policies.

 

Warren strikes me as someone who takes every thing people disliked about Hillary, (with the exception of 20 years of right wing smears), and magnifies them. I mean, she's an angry woman policy wonk. 

 

Not that I think being qualified and having a plan ought to disqualify someone. But it sure gives me a nervous feeling. 

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Thought this was interesting.
 

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They found that while opinions of the president have been very consistent since 2016, "Obama-Trump voters have had a significant change in their view of President Trump over the last two years. In the 2016 VOTER Survey, more than 8 in 10 (85 percent) Obama-Trump voters held a "favorable" view of the president — 19 percentage points higher than in 2019 (66 percent)." In other words, while Obama-Trump voters still overwhelmingly approve of the president, that support is a lot softer than it was back in 2016. They did not find any significant movement among any other group of voters (like those who supported Romney in 2016 and Trump in 2016, or those who voted Romney 2012 and Clinton in 2016). And, while these Obama-Trump voters remain supportive of the president,  "even small movement among these voters — who represented 5 percent of voters in 2016," writes the authors of the report, "may prove significant heading into the 2020 presidential election."

In an analysis of the 2018 election Yair Ghitza, chief scientist at the Democratic data firm Catalist, makes the case that while turnout was a key factor in Democrats success in 2018, "a big piece of Democratic victory was due to 2016 Trump voters turning around and voting for Democrats in 2018." In 2016, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 2 points. In 2018, Democrats won the national vote by 7 points. Ghitza's analysis finds that almost 90 percent of that 5 point difference in vote margin came from voters who supported Trump in 2016, but voted for a Democrat in 2018. CNN's Ron Brownstein does an excellent job of explaining the methodology and the findings of this Catalist study in his recent CNN column

https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/are-voter-opinions-trump-stable-they-seem

 

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I wonder if Cheeto will watch the first debates or will he have his own campaign event opposite them.

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https://www.vox.com/2019/6/11/18661072/trump-campaign-internal-polling-denial

 

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During campaign rallies since he’s become president, President Donald Trump has repeatedly dismissed polls that reflect poorly on him as somehow representing “suppression,” or not including the 10 percent of people he thinks support him but refuse to say so publicly.

 

But his denialism about bad polling now reportedly extends to polls conducted by his own campaign.

 

As Politico recently detailed, the Trump campaign put together a 17-state polling project that found the president lagging behind Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden in key battleground states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. But according to the New York Times’s Annie Karni and Maggie Haberman, after he was briefed about the “devastating” polling, Trump told his aides to deny it and instead tout polls showing him doing better.

 

From the Times:

 

After being briefed on a devastating 17-state poll conducted by his campaign pollster, Tony Fabrizio, Mr. Trump told aides to deny that his internal polling showed him trailing Mr. Biden in many of the states he needs to win, even though he is also trailing in public polls from key states like Texas, Michigan and Pennsylvania. And when top-line details of the polling leaked, including numbers showing the president lagging in a cluster of critical Rust Belt states, Mr. Trump instructed aides to say publicly that other data showed him doing well.

 

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Trump denying the polls and facts in general is part of what makes him who he is.  He is a con man.  He is Lyle Lanley from The Simpsons convincing Springfield they need a monorail in their city.   

 

Never acknowledge anything negative, any criticism.  Just put out this false sense of confidence and invincibility over and over.  Eventually a lot of people start to believe it themselves.   That is Trump's strategy every time, and unfortunately a lot of people don't seem to be able to see through it.  All these social media influencers who are attempting to make a living based on doing nothing?  Trump laid out the blue print for this over the past 30 years, except he did it in real life and not on instagram.  You almost have to sort of admire it, until you remember he is actually the President of the United States. 

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Right, but the takeaways are (1) the polling looks extremely bad for Trump right now and (2) he has no intention of doing anything to try to change people's minds.  

 

He conned a whole lot of people, importantly those in the midwest.  Are those people going to be conned twice?  The early indications point towards no. 

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Interesting numbers considering it’s Mass.

 

 

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1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Right, but the takeaways are (1) the polling looks extremely bad for Trump right now and (2) he has no intention of doing anything to try to change people's minds.  

 

He conned a whole lot of people, importantly those in the midwest.  Are those people going to be conned twice?  The early indications point towards no. 

 

How will that polling change as the polling models change though?

Who actually votes is what matters.

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1 hour ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Right, but the takeaways are (1) the polling looks extremely bad for Trump right now and (2) he has no intention of doing anything to try to change people's minds.  

 

He conned a whole lot of people, importantly those in the midwest.  Are those people going to be conned twice?  The early indications point towards no. 

 

I don't know. That is as honest as I can be.  In my liberal bubble, of course the answer is "No, they won't be conned twice" however you also have to remember that it isn't just Trump that is running the con, it is the GOP in it's entirety, Fox, right-wing radio, facebook etc etc etc.......it is not like Trump is attempting to do this on his own. 

 

Also, once the field of Dems is narrowed down and we eventually get the nominee, it will add an entire new aspect to this because it won't just being about how bad Trump is anymore, but also how effectively right-wing media can tear down his opponent.  All of those "reluctant Trump voters" will only need to be convinced that while Trump is not the greatest.....his opponent is a "insert whatever here" so you must vote Trump again to prevent America from "insert whatever here" 

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I think we (the electorate) need to pay attention to what happened during the 2018 election season and who was elected to the House. The more I see, I am supporting a Warren - Buttigieg ticket. Wisdom, policies, youth, female, healthcare, foreign policy, getting things done.

 

We need to take the best and most feasible ideas from all the Democrats running and put them in the platform. Then down ballot candidates can choose which ones to run on in their communities. 

 

Of course I will vote for the Democratic nominee. Let's field the best slate across the board and build on 2018 excitement and resultant gains.

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I would find a Warren - Buttigieg ticket rather interesting.....could even be fun.

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19 minutes ago, Momma There Goes That Man said:

 

Quite honestly, this is a disqualifying statement. Whatever candidacy he had, should be over right now. 

Biden is stuck in 1984. 

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